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Joyce Meyer Ministries is a target of GOP senator's probe
St. Louis Post Disgrace ^ | 11/6/2007 | Diedre Sheesgreen

Posted on 11/06/2007 4:41:44 AM PST by Clintons Are White Trash

WASHINGTON — The top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee has launched a wide-ranging investigation into the financial dealings of six TV evangelists, including Joyce Meyer, the popular preacher who has built a $124-million-a-year empire headquartered in Fenton.

On Monday, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, asked Meyer to provide his staff with documents detailing the finances of the Joyce Meyer Ministries, including the religious group's compensation to Meyer, her husband and other family members, as well as an accounting of their housing allowances, gifts and credit card statements for the last several years.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 110th; fleecingtheflock; gop; grassley; joycemeyerconartist; meyer; ministries; ministry; probe; religion; relirion; senator; televangelists
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To: em2vn
I believe judgment begins in the house of God, and thats what these preaches say they are. If their foundation is strong and they are doing the will of God then they will be alright.

Grassley has a reason for doing this.

61 posted on 11/06/2007 5:53:22 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

I thought this too but she is questionable. I think Jay Nixon should look into it.
If you google earth and go to I-270 & highway 30, then go just a bit to the southeast corner, you can see the estate made up of at least 3 houses. From the street you can only see a little bit. A pond, gazebo, the fence..etc Very expensive.
The Post Dispatch did an article on her about 3 years ago. After reading that, I concluded she should have investigated then.
Not only that she isn’t even Biblical


62 posted on 11/06/2007 5:54:59 AM PST by surelyclintonsbaddream (PRESIDENT DUNCAN HUNTER --Will Build A Fence-- True Military man--True Patriarch)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

bump for later reading


63 posted on 11/06/2007 5:56:23 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: WildcatClan

I think it is possible that she has become persuaded that one is entitled to this lifestyle. She has been tempted by the lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes and the pride of life.

I’d have more respect for her if she paid her workers good wages.

1 John 2:16
For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world.


64 posted on 11/06/2007 5:56:30 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Bitter?


65 posted on 11/06/2007 5:56:42 AM PST by pilipo
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To: Guenevere

Joyce Meyer’s needs to go back and read her Bible. Specifically, 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1.

The church leader must be the husband of one wife.


66 posted on 11/06/2007 5:58:09 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: iowamark

LOL!! 2 of those I would have definitely guessed would show up on the list. These health-and-wealth folks conveniently forget that Jesus gave up his heavenly kingdom and finery to walk among men — he didn’t have his disciples carrying him around on a litter like royalty. He walked like every other normal person. H&W is a scam.


67 posted on 11/06/2007 6:00:58 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: cyphergirl

I remember reading parts of that series in the Post. We get the paper in our office and I couldn’t help myself. She has always rubbed me the wrong way.


68 posted on 11/06/2007 6:02:17 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: MissionMan

“But if I was in the ministry’s shoes I would consider using the issue of the separation of church and state against the government and tell them to stick their requests where the sun don’t shine — lawyer up and see if this outlasts the next elections.”

The counter-argument is that by applying for tax exempt status, the mission has already breached the so-called separation of church and state. In other words, it is the mission that wants privileges from the government, not the other way around. (BTW, I disagree with the philosophy that everything is taxable unless it has an exemption but that is the reality today.) In order to argue and prevail on a true separation of church and state, the mission would have to disavow tax exemption. That is not likely to happen.


69 posted on 11/06/2007 6:02:52 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: MissionMan

I’m sure they do a lot of good — but it galls me that someone who drives around in a Rolls Royce will take money from an old person’s SS check to pay for their own gas. (So to speak)


70 posted on 11/06/2007 6:04:00 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Think Jim and Tammy Faye....


71 posted on 11/06/2007 6:04:02 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Holly_P

I read Graybeard58’s post to you with interest. Went to your
about me page and after I quit laughing I had to tell you how much I enjoyed reading about all of your accomplishments. Would be interesting to know you. I share your opinion of Ms Meyers, at least as much as I understand it from someone’s post to you!


72 posted on 11/06/2007 6:07:03 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
These idiot feds need to come to Birmingham, AL and check out the urban so called ministries here. If there is not a ton of graft going on then they are invisible.
73 posted on 11/06/2007 6:07:32 AM PST by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: AppyPappy
I'm not saying I'm in total agreement with her ministry ....

..what I've heard is Biblical enhancement/encouragment talks...

I have a friend, young Christian growing in faith, who loves Joyce and listens to her all the time.....but she is becoming more discerning.

Our church would not have a Joyce Meyers teaching/preaching to a mixed congregation...

..STILL, the facts are not in, and some folks here love to spout off regardless of the lack of facts.

74 posted on 11/06/2007 6:08:54 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: iowamark

I do not know enough about Creflo Dollar, but the rest of these ministries are charismatic, from the “name it and claim it” school. Most of the financial and sexual scandals in evangelical ranks have come from charismatics, such as Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart. However, I have no reason to believe other charismatic ministries, such as those of Joel Osteen or John Hagee. You also seldom hear of non-charismatic, evangelical ministries of people like John MacArthur, Chuck Swindoll, R.C. Sproul, or Adrian Rogers being subject to criticism for financial abuses or spending of donations on luxury items.


75 posted on 11/06/2007 6:10:15 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Clintons Are White Trash
I listen to the TV ministers who spend only 10% or less of their air time begging for $$$.

I like Joel Osteen.

76 posted on 11/06/2007 6:13:08 AM PST by lonestar
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To: cyphergirl

“a low cabinet or similar piece of furniture, often highly ornamental, containing drawers or shelves”

This is another definition for commode. I suspect $23,000 being spent for a piece of furniture rather than a ‘procelaine throne’

Cheers.


77 posted on 11/06/2007 6:15:15 AM PST by Bahama Mama (FReeper in Paradise)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

Where was the Senator when that chinese dude Hsu needed to be PROBED?!!....UNDER THE BED HIDING? Spineless weasles!! Ughhhh!


78 posted on 11/06/2007 6:15:22 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Guenevere

I think the facts are sitting in her driveway.


79 posted on 11/06/2007 6:21:06 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: iowamark

I’m a Christian and I’ve always had a real problem with those who are in the “ministry” having extreme wealth.


80 posted on 11/06/2007 6:21:55 AM PST by a real Sheila (stop hillary NOW!)
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