Posted on 10/24/2007 4:53:10 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
Must read ping!
Interesting that they don’t mention the central figure in this episode—Bill Clinton. Afterall, it was on his watch that Pakistan got the a-bomb.
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Not at all true. Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush did quite a lot to interfere with Pakistan’s effort to get the bomb. It was Clinton who let it happen, and did nothing in response.
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You are correct, Clinton covered it up to protect his buddies in the UAE, and he still gets big bucks to speak there.They are thick like fleas.
Pakistan acquired advanced level of weapon grade uranium enrichment capability in the mid-late eighties. Clinton came to power in 1993. Pakistan was publicly acknowledged to be in possession of nuclear weapons before Clinton came to power.
I suggest you READ up on chronology of Pakistan’s nuclear bomb. You can start here at fas.org:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/pakistan/nuke/chron.htm
What you are talking about is A Q Khan’s nuclear gunrunning AFTER Pakistan has already acquired the bomb and is supplying it to others. That happened under Clinton administration.
Look, you want to play this Republic-Democract slinging match, you can gladly carry on but keep your facts to yourself, Indians know too well who in the American administration is responsible.
Post #9 is for you too.
You can argue that Clinton did the same to thwart Pakistan-he imposed new sanctions as well as kept old ones on the Pakistanis banning F-16 & other sales when he came to power.That didn’t stop the Pakis.The fact is that the Paki bomb was a done deal by the time Papa Bush was preparing to leave office.
All Clinton did was diplomacy and rhetoric. Of course, his predecessors did pretty much the same, but that was different. It was Clinton where the rubber met the road.
Yeah, well there is no point in arguing with you, so what is the point?
Those half measures, sham embargoes with legal loop holes along with waivers and amendments were the hallmark of both Republican and Democrat administration. Although the popular story people on this forum want to believe is that only Clinton was responsible.
Just read your own timeline. How does it prove your point? It doesn’t.
still no pic of Kirk yelling “Khan!!.......Khan!!....”
Congress shall make no law....abridging the freedom of speech
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My point is Pakistan had accomplished construction of a complete nuclear bomb by late 80s and began cooperation with Iran and Iraq by 1990. Clinton came to power in 1993.
Are you saying Clinton was responsible for everything that happened before he was elected into office?
What part of the time line you are having trouble reading or understanding?
Early 1980’s—Multiple reports that Pakistan obtained a pre-tested, atomic bomb design from China.
Early 1980’s—Multiple reports that Pakistan obtained bomb-grade enriched uranium from China.
1980—U.S. Nuclear Export Control Violation: Reexport via Canada (components of inverters used in gas centrifuge enrichment activities).
1981—U.S. Nuclear Export Control Violation: New York, zirconium (nuclear fuel cladding material).
1982/3—Several European press reports indicate that Pakistan was using Middle Eastern intermediaries to acquire bomb parts (13-inch `steel spheres’ and `steel petal shapes’).
1983—Declassified US government assessment concludes that `There is unambiguous evidence that Pakistan is actively pursuing a nuclear weapons development program * * * We believe the ultimate application of the enriched uranium produced at Kahuta, which is unsafeguarded, is clearly nuclear weapons.’
1984—President Zia states that Pakistan has acquired a `very modest’ uranium enrichment capability for `nothing but peaceful purposes.’
1984—President Reagan reportedly warns Pakistan of `grave consequences’ if it enriches uranium above 5%.
1985—ABC News reports that US believes Pakistan has `successfully tested’ a `firing mechanism’ of an atomic bomb by means of a non-nuclear explosion, and that US krytrons `have been acquired’ by Pakistan.
1985—U.S. Nuclear Export Control Violation: Texas, krytrons (nuclear weapon triggers).
1985/6—Media cites production of highly enriched, bomb-grade uranium in violation of a commitment to the US.
1986—Bob Woodward article in Washington Post cites alleged DIA report saying Pakistan `detonated a high explosive test device between Sept. 18 and Sept. 21 as part of its continuing efforts to build an implosion-type nuclear weapon;’ says Pakistan has produced uranium enriched to a 93.5% level.
1986—Press reports cite U.S. `Special National Intelligence Estimate’ concluding that Pakistan had produced weapons-grade material.
1987—London Financial Times reports US spy satellites have observed construction of second uranium enrichment plant in Pakistan.
1987—Pakistan’s leading nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan states in published interview that `what the CIA has been saying about our possessing the bomb is correct.’
1987—According to photocopy of a reported German foreign ministry memo published in Paris in 1990, UK government official tells German counterpart on European nonproliferation working group that he was `convinced that Pakistan had `a few small’ nuclear weapons.’
1988—Hedrick Smith article in New York Times reports US government sources believe Pakistan has produced enough highly enriched uranium for 4-6 bombs.
1988—President Zia tells Carnegie Endowment delegation in interview that Pakistan has attained a nuclear capability `that is good enough to create an impression of deterrence.’
1989—UK press cites nuclear cooperation between Pakistan and Iraq.
1989—Article in Defense & Foreign Affairs Weekly states `sources close to the Pakistani nuclear program have revealed that Pakistani scientists have now perfected detonation mechanisms for a nuclear device.’
1990—US News cites `western intelligence sources’ claiming Pakistan recently `cold-tested’ a nuclear device and is now building a plutonium production reactor; article says Pakistan is engaged in nuclear cooperation with Iran.
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