Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Muslim Tories: 'Iran Has Right To Nuclear Arms'
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 10-19-2007 | Andrew Porter

Posted on 10/19/2007 11:04:05 AM PDT by blam

Muslim Tories: 'Iran has right to nuclear arms'

By Andrew Porter
Last Updated: 2:56am BST 19/10/2007

A body set up by David Cameron to advise the Conservatives on Muslim issues has criticised the Government's relationship with Israel and concluded that Iran has "legitimate" reasons for wanting nuclear weapons.

The Conservative Muslim Forum also wants the compulsory history curriculum in schools changed to give "full recognition to the massive contribution that Islam has made to the development of Western civilisation".

It also argues that preachers who advocate a rejection of democracy and its institutions should not be denied entry into Britain.

advertisement The findings are in a response to this summer's report by the Tory National and International Security Policy Group chaired by new adviser, Dame Pauline Neville-Jones.

But the way it addresses certain key issues — completely at odds with Tory policy — will embarrass Mr Cameron. Its comments on Israel, in particular, will be seized on.

The report says: "Regardless of whether one finds Israel a congenial country or not, on any objective assessment of the type of unqualified support given to Israel by the current government it is not conducive to British national interests as this could damage Britain's relationships with 15 billion Muslims worldwide, including those in Britain."

It concludes that passage with: "In all our dealings with Israel, we must remember the plight of the displaced Palestinians."

The group calls on the party to be more sympathetic towards Iran. It says: "Given Iran's position in the Middle East, facing a nuclear-armed Israel, Iran appears to have legitimate reasons for seeking nuclear weapons for defensive purposes."

It says that an incoming Tory government should oppose Iran's weapon ambitions, but adds: "Any collusion by Britain in an Israeli or American military strike against Iran would be extremely damaging to Britain's long-term security interests."

The forum works out of the Conservative headquarters in London. It is chaired by Lord Sheikh, a party donor who was given a peerage last year. His wife works in Tory HQ.

Last night, a spokesman said: "This is simply one of many submissions received and does not represent Conservative Party policy."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; iraniannukes; islamintheuk; jihadists; muslim; nuclear; tories; worldwariv
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last

1 posted on 10/19/2007 11:04:09 AM PDT by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: blam

Muslim Tories? What a joke. If even Muslims in the Conservative Party support the Mullahs vicious visions of genocide, what are we to expect from others?


2 posted on 10/19/2007 11:06:36 AM PDT by SolidWood ("I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
"full recognition to the massive contribution that Islam has made to the development of Western civilisation".

Well, because of islamic conquest, slavery and death of the western world - the west did pull together, made technological advancements and thought of civil right enlightenments to order to survive...

3 posted on 10/19/2007 11:07:14 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

“full recognition to the massive contribution that Islam has made to the development of Western civilisation”.

Which is what???? How to take off heads in 3 easy minutes, how to build IED’s...or, or, is it Algebra...?


4 posted on 10/19/2007 11:07:46 AM PDT by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Sounds like they can’t even get their math straight. How can there be 15B muslims when there are 6B humans alive?

The report says: “Regardless of whether one finds Israel a congenial country or not, on any objective assessment of the type of unqualified support given to Israel by the current government it is not conducive to British national interests as this could damage Britain’s relationships with 15 billion Muslims worldwide, including those in Britain.”


5 posted on 10/19/2007 11:08:49 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kevmo
How can there be 15B muslims when there are 6B humans alive?

They're counting their fictitious virgins?

6 posted on 10/19/2007 11:11:19 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: blam

Let’s see ... Islam has made a massive contribution to the west and ... Muslims who say that democracy should be rejected should be admitted to Great Britain.

What, are we some kind of bastard child?

Howzabout we apply the following rule: Muslims who come from countries that allow freedom of religion and do not reject their country’s policy, will be allowed to come here?


7 posted on 10/19/2007 11:11:22 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kevmo
...1.5 billion Muslims worldwide...

Not to put too fine a "point" on it...

8 posted on 10/19/2007 11:15:22 AM PDT by Max in Utah (If your neighbors habitually trespassed, wouldn't you want a nice tall fence with razor wire on top?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: blam
"full recognition to the massive contribution that Islam has made to the development of Western civilisation".

That's right. It was the defeat of the Persian invasion that led to the Golden Age of Greece, or Athens anyway: Plato, Socrates, democracy, some other things we haven't come close to since and Persia never heard of. Later the defeat of the massive islam invasion in Europe led to the greatest flourishing of the West ever, since Greece. Do we need to do this again? maybeso.

9 posted on 10/19/2007 11:15:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (50 years later we're still sitting on the ground)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

muslims keep finding ways to say that they’re the enemy, but too many of their non-muslim targets don’t seem to be listening.


10 posted on 10/19/2007 11:16:42 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
“full recognition to the massive contribution that Islam has made to the development of Western civilisation”.

Uh...they invented the zero. That's about it.
11 posted on 10/19/2007 11:17:24 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
Which is what???? How to take off heads in 3 easy minutes, how to build IED’s...or, or, is it Algebra...?

LOL...whenever I sit in my math classes I can think "This is all the Arabs' fault!" I knew there was a reason why everyone hates al-jabr...I mean algebra...
12 posted on 10/19/2007 11:18:55 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: blam

This is just so sad. It breaks my heart to see Europe disappearing into the darkness of the Islamofascist world. Think of all of the great glory of Great Britain’s history fading away into mentions in archaic schoolbooks. I still try to hope that the Brits will summon the will to fight for their culture, but I don’t see it so far.


13 posted on 10/19/2007 11:22:46 AM PDT by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H. L. Mencken)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: G8 Diplomat

Greeks invented algebra (a2+b2=c2)and trig., and Arabs stole their numbers from India. Arabs also stole alchemy from the Greeks. When looked at closely, not all that much originated from the calipahates.


14 posted on 10/19/2007 11:25:11 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("Of course, a fool, what with sheer fright and fine sentiments, is always safe.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: blam
"full recognition to the massive contribution that Islam has made to the development of Western civilisation"

Their own countries are nothing but primitive backwaters and they want credit for our civilization, lol???

And in answer to their other assertion... No, crazy people do not have a right to nuclear arms.

15 posted on 10/19/2007 11:26:22 AM PDT by LibWhacker (Democrats are phony Americans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

6th century cult pirates with Nukes is not an option. Sorry.


16 posted on 10/19/2007 11:31:50 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: VanShuyten
Yeah, the proper name for our numbers are the HINDU-Arabic numbers, since they did origniate in India.

The word algebra comes from Arabic, but as you pointed out it was the Greeks who used the math first. So it's their fault, lol...

The only thing that came from the Islamic world...is a zero.

(I think they did invent the zero separately from the Indian numbers, not sure though...correct me if I'm wrong)
17 posted on 10/19/2007 11:33:51 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Star Wars teaches us a foreboding lesson--evil emperors start out as Senators)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: blam
"In all our dealings with Israel, we must remember the plight of the displaced Palestinians."

I agree...they should have the right of return to Jordan, Egypt and Syria, as soon as possible.

18 posted on 10/19/2007 11:37:59 AM PDT by montag813
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Israel not congenial?? is Iran? Syria? any of them?


19 posted on 10/19/2007 11:56:07 AM PDT by GeronL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: American Quilter

‘This is just so sad. It breaks my heart to see Europe disappearing into the darkness of the Islamofascist world. Think of all of the great glory of Great Britain’s history fading away into mentions in archaic schoolbooks. I still try to hope that the Brits will summon the will to fight for their culture, but I don’t see it so far.’

That’s hilarious coming from America which now has a higher proportion of it’s population that is muslim than Britain, has rising muslim immigration compared to Britains reducing muslim immigration and lights up it’s national buildings in NYC green to honour it’s muslim population! I know which country needs to wake up first.


20 posted on 10/19/2007 12:22:03 PM PDT by britemp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson