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Fewer migrants mean more benefits: Jobs open up to less-skilled Americans.
LA Times ^ | 24 September 2007 | Mark Krikorian

Posted on 09/24/2007 1:12:22 PM PDT by shrinkermd

...The first consequence of stepped-up enforcement is attrition of the illegal population -- a steady decrease in the total number of illegal aliens as more people give up and go home. Attrition is the real alternative to amnesty, and we're seeing it work.

The Arizona Republic ran a story last month explaining how migrants were leaving the state in anticipation of tough new immigration rules. Public radio station WBUR in Boston reported that "in the midst of the debate about immigrants coming to America, something unusual is happening in Massachusetts: Brazilian immigrants are quietly packing up and leaving." And the Chicago Tribune, reporting on the Pennsylvania town at the forefront of the resistance to illegal immigration, has written that "over the summer, when Hazleton officials created the nation's first ordinance aimed at driving away undocumented residents, thousands of people apparently packed up and left."

Far from having "unhappy consequences," these developments are improving the economic bargaining power of less-skilled American workers....

...in Greeley, Colo., "the line of applicants hoping to fill jobs vacated by undocumented workers taken away by immigration agents at the Swift & Co. meat-processing plant was out the door."

...only after a raid on a plant making leather goods for the military in New Bedford, Mass., were Americans and legal immigrants able to get hired.

....a Crider Poultry plant in Stillmore, Ga., the Atlanta Journal Constitution and the Wall Street Journal documented the benefits to local workers. The plant raised wages significantly, began offering free shuttles from nearby towns and provided free rooms in a company-owned dormitory...for the first time since significant numbers of Latinos began arriving in Stillmore in the late 1990s, the plant's processing lines were made up predominantly of African Americans."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: aliens; attrition; enforcement; immigrantlist; immigration; krikorian; workplace
"Attrition" may be the magic word for politicians to consider and support rather than debate massive deportations.
1 posted on 09/24/2007 1:12:41 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

Nice to see the jobs that “Americans wouldn’t do” being filed by Americans. Get the !@#$%^&* Illegals outta here.... good riddance


2 posted on 09/24/2007 1:15:52 PM PDT by clamper1797 ("Democrat" 'one who panders to the crude, idiotic, and mindless whims of the masses.')
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To: clamper1797

Being filled that is ...


3 posted on 09/24/2007 1:16:44 PM PDT by clamper1797 ("Democrat" 'one who panders to the crude, idiotic, and mindless whims of the masses.')
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4 posted on 09/24/2007 1:17:57 PM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: shrinkermd

Wow. This was sure unexpected. /sarcasm


5 posted on 09/24/2007 1:19:16 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: ozarkgirl

save for later


6 posted on 09/24/2007 1:23:50 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: shrinkermd
The LA Times printed this? WOW! How'd that get past their editors?

This is good news and exactly what some of us have been predicting would happen. Now let's cut off all the government freebies and watch the reverse flow across the border.

7 posted on 09/24/2007 1:26:01 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand
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To: shrinkermd

Bush had to be dragged away from his wage depression policies kicking and screaming....and look at just what the empty “threat” of enforcement has done!


8 posted on 09/24/2007 1:27:18 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: shrinkermd

Attrition. The other A word.

An Ann Coulter idea.


9 posted on 09/24/2007 1:27:22 PM PDT by tennteacher (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: shrinkermd

Don’t know about your areas, but around here blacks are showing up in jobs formerly held exclusively by illegals — Must be a replacement cycle, the illegals are getting too hot to hire, even at the no tax cash discount rate. I have lived here for years and never once saw a black in one of these slots, until recently.

The truth is the reason Americans weren’t doing the jobs is employers weren’t hiring Americans. I wonder where the race hustlers stand on this issue? Better yet, why do the race hustlers stand with the open borders crowd, when it’s a whole lot of their folks who get hurt in the process. I know the answer, so I will add, the race hustlers love permanent power as much as the next, and know that changing the demographics of the American voter is the best way for Democrats to get that.


10 posted on 09/24/2007 1:29:11 PM PDT by Tarpon
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11 posted on 09/24/2007 1:54:59 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Hoffer Rand
The LA Times printed this?

I was shocked to see it was from the Slimes too. Living very near the "sanctuary city" of El-Lay, I can attest to the fact that the people of southern California ARE GETTING FED UP TO OUR NECKS WITH ILLEGAL ALIENS AND THEIR GANGBANGER OFFSPRING!

I've sent a copy of this article to big bad Governor Arnold and asked him why he won't discuss illegal aliens or sanctuary cities.

governor@governor.ca.gov

12 posted on 09/24/2007 2:10:43 PM PDT by janetgreen (America For Sale - call Junior Bush at 202-456-1414)
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To: Shermy
Bush had to be dragged away from his wage depression policies kicking and screaming....and look at just what the empty “threat” of enforcement has done!

LOL!!! Dubya thought that he'd get back at us for scuttling his pet project (not too mention his Big Business backers).

The "law of unintended consequences strikes again". I prefer to call it returning to the normal laws of supply and demand. 12 million illegal aliens screwed up the labor equation.

Now that employers can't rely on illegal workers, they are having to provide market wages and benefits.

13 posted on 09/24/2007 2:14:40 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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To: Tarpon

“Don’t know about your areas, but around here blacks are showing up in jobs formerly held exclusively by illegals “

Blacks were well represented in trades jobs with good wages and benefits (=$23+/hr) - carpenters, painters, bricklayers - before the illegals pushed them out of their jobs with greedy exploiting contractors.

The pure capitalists who support cheap imported labor working under the table in near-indentured status don’t really care about the real free market. They work around it by changing the rules in their favor.

A true free market is occurring now in Alberta, Canada. Without the competition of illegal labor, the oil field prosperity has McDonalds offering flippers and counter folk $15/hr. And yet these businesses are still making tidy profits and the province is running a big budget surplus and financing the rest of Canada.

A rising tide will lift all boats until you start stuffing too many people in the boat then it starts sinking.


14 posted on 09/24/2007 2:16:15 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: shrinkermd

I don’t know, I hate to see my fellow Americans doing better.


15 posted on 09/24/2007 2:17:34 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: shrinkermd

bumperoo


16 posted on 09/24/2007 2:18:41 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: shrinkermd

No way! You mean forcing out the illegals means that employers have to raise wages to get their chickens plucked?

Whoda thunk!?!!


17 posted on 09/24/2007 2:25:43 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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To: janetgreen

“I’ve sent a copy of this article to big bad Governor Arnold and asked him why he won’t discuss illegal aliens or sanctuary cities.”

I love you Janet :-)


18 posted on 09/24/2007 2:34:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Wolfie

“I don’t know, I hate to see my fellow Americans doing better”

ROTFLMAO!!


19 posted on 09/24/2007 2:35:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: oldbill

“Blacks were well represented in trades jobs with good wages and benefits (=$23+/hr) - carpenters, painters, bricklayers - before the illegals pushed them out of their jobs with greedy exploiting contractors”

Being a honky, I wonder why the black leadership has abandoned their own people in America.......not a peep out of Sharpton or Jackson!


20 posted on 09/24/2007 2:40:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: shrinkermd

bttt


21 posted on 09/24/2007 2:44:01 PM PDT by Delacon (When in doubt, ask a liberal and then do the opposite.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Indication may be that the NAACP supports the La Raza (The Race) boycott in Kansas City over the Minuteman member parks commssioner

The Race warlords are on the side of illegals. Not on the side of blacks.


22 posted on 09/24/2007 2:49:43 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (FantasyCollegeBlitz.com)
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To: shrinkermd
In 1978 or so I was making $8.00/hr as a (summertime college student) laborer on a federally backed project ($8.00/hr was union scale for DC Metrorail).

Today that rate would be $24/hr to $30/hr depending upon the dollar nomalization used (e.g. CPI, average labor rate, inflation rate).

When employers are forced to stop profiting on American sovereignty and the rule of law, and to pay a normalized fair wage of $18/hr to $22/hr for that and other unskilled labor jobs, we'll see qualified Americans lining up to take "the jobs that Americans don't want".

23 posted on 09/24/2007 2:50:57 PM PDT by angkor ("California, Is nice to the homeless, California, Supercool to the homeless..." South Park 11.07)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

thanks, sjb (shyly bowing head) ... :^)


24 posted on 09/24/2007 2:57:26 PM PDT by janetgreen (America For Sale - call Junior Bush at 202-456-1414)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Being a honky, I wonder why the black leadership has abandoned their own people in America.......not a peep out of Sharpton or Jackson!

No money in it. The race baiters only profit when they can keep their minions ignorant and ticked off at whitey.

25 posted on 09/24/2007 3:42:02 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

“No money in it. The race baiters only profit when they can keep their minions ignorant and ticked off at whitey”

Devoid of excrement.......in other words....No $


26 posted on 09/24/2007 3:44:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: janetgreen

I lived in So cal from 1976-2006..........I no need no educationment :-)


27 posted on 09/24/2007 3:45:33 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I lived in So cal from 1976-2006..........I no need no educationment :-)

Allow me to help you keep up with a real important news story from Los Angeles.

Mayor's girlfriend being transferred to Riverside

Newscaster Mirthala Salinas, who was suspended without pay for two months in August after her affair with Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa became public, is scheduled to return to work next Monday. Salinas will be sent to the station's Inland Empire bureau in Riverside as a reporter, sources said, a notable fall for a one-time rising star...

[snip]

Photo of the happy couple from last year.

28 posted on 09/24/2007 7:32:38 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: shrinkermd

Here’s one mans way to handle the immigrant problem:

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29 posted on 09/24/2007 9:53:36 PM PDT by BBell
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To: DumpsterDiver
...sent to the station's Inland Empire bureau in Riverside...

"Inland Empire bureau" LOL. Maybe she'll try some horizontal jogging with the mayor of Riverside.

30 posted on 09/24/2007 11:06:36 PM PDT by TheMole
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To: shrinkermd

So much for the “melting pot” and “assimilation” of “migrant” Mexican workers i our communities. They are truly locusts, only going where they can work tax free and get benefits most Americans would’nt qualify for, and sending the money (again tax free) over the border.

Take the money away, they leave. Pretty simple.

Next, tax the money going over the border from check cashing places and Western Union. Tax it HARD. Then you’ll see even less illegals.

As it stands, it’s a joke to them. They know what our media is saying, word of mouth in their communities gets word out fast when police aren’t able to ask them their immigration status, or what hospitals will just take them with no questions, who hires with a wink and a nod.

They have it so easy - why would’nt they come over? They get handed everything when they do! Our President wants to pay them Social Security, for God’s sake. Banks are bending over backwards to sell them houses, and everywhere you go, they are catered to with “Press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish”.


31 posted on 09/24/2007 11:33:07 PM PDT by ByDesign
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To: DumpsterDiver

Salinas exiled to Riverside........ROTFLMBO!


32 posted on 09/25/2007 11:33:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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