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10 not-so-great things about the 1950s (in the UK)
BBC ^ | 17 September 2007 | Unknown

Posted on 09/19/2007 2:18:28 PM PDT by decimon

A land of bus conductors, district nurses and rag-and-bone men is the image of life in the 1950s, to which many want to return, suggests a survey. Was post-war Britain really all good?

We might enjoy cheap flights, e-mail and plasma televisions, but a report by Somerfield says one in four people want to return to the decade of the Suez War and the Coronation.

Bobbies on the beat (80%), district nurses (55%), bus conductors (41%) and rag-and-bone men (20%) were among the features of life those surveyed most wanted to revive or expand.

This has been presented by some dewy-eyed newspapers as evidence that life 50 years ago was better than now. A time of decency and strong community ties, yes, but what aspects of that life were not so appealing?

1. Post-war austerity was characterised by outside lavatories, central heating was rare and many houses were without televisions or running water.

School in 1954 The education system was lauded 2. Racial discrimination was widespread, with signs saying "No blacks, no dogs, no Irish" commonplace. Tensions boiled over with the Notting Hill riots in 1958.

3. Food rations until 1954. Fruit was a luxury, chicken or sweets a rarity. Queues outside butchers lined the streets. Petrol was rationed in 1956-57.

4. Smog, or peasoupers, were thick and yellow, made worse by coal fires. Some have described the fog as a "yellow wall" outside the front door. Parents gave children scarves to wear over their noses and mouths and street lamps were still gas.

5. Britain had to come to terms with being humiliated in the Suez War and its influence on world events being greatly diminished.

6. Bomb sites littered British streets, while air raid shelters, unexploded bombs, gas masks and seaside defences provided a reminder of the horror that had gone before.

Bombed building in London, 1954 Bombed buildings became playgrounds 7. The Cold War intensified throughout the 50s, with tensions illustrated by the Soviet invasion of Hungary and the McCarthy witch hunts in the US.

8. Sporting humiliation arrived when England's football team lost 6-3 to Hungary at Wembley, the first ever defeat to a non-British team at home.

9. Smoking prevalence among UK men aged 35 to 59 was 80% in 1950, and half of deaths of middle-aged men were caused by tobacco.

10. Sexual expression was frowned upon and even criminalised.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 1950
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1 posted on 09/19/2007 2:18:31 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Nice list of the benefits the Brits bestowed on themselves when they elected a Labor government!


2 posted on 09/19/2007 2:21:07 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: decimon

The price of dithering too long in the face of evil.


3 posted on 09/19/2007 2:21:55 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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Yea, but no mention of the great dental plan brought to the people by Labor.


4 posted on 09/19/2007 2:24:00 PM PDT by Jigajog
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To: decimon
British Dentistry


5 posted on 09/19/2007 2:24:25 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: decimon
Was there some reason points 2. and 7. were scrunched in on the side? Or were the two /p p accidentally deleted?

Anyway, here are the comments of readers:

To quote my Grandad: 'The good old days?... What was so bloody good about 'em??? You could leave your door unlocked but only because we had nowt.. They (thieves) would have to bring it in first before they could take out'
Tom Milec, Manchester

This bad view of the fifties was the earlier part of the decade. The entire ten years had a better legacy. Kids were allowed to be kids, parents and policemen could make bullies behave. People had a pride in themselves, their homes, their community. Sadly there was also racism, low wages and bad working conditions prevalent but we were all in it together. Born in 1954
Janet Hodgson, Scarborough, late of Sheffield

My family moved from central London (next to a bomb site) to an isolated Bucks farmhouse at the beginning of 1952 when I was eight. From having running hot water, instant gas fires and a proper bathroom, we only had a coal-fired copper boiler for water, no cooker except the coal range in the living room, and the inevitable outside toilet. How my mother survived the change I will never know. I clearly remember the first day sweets came off ration and breaking all rules to cross the main road from school to the sweetshop. Maybe we should have sweet rationing again, and I'd love to see more bobbies on the beat and district nurses. Bus conductors might speed up journeys, and rag-and-bone men could help recycling. I'd like to see more courtesy, but don't miss the sexism.
JCofMargate, Margate, UK

Remember the basic rate of income tax was 47.5% and there was a super-tax rate of 97.5% (or 19/6p in the £) However I could and did ride my bike at the age of 8 for miles & miles around Liverpool in the summer evenings by myself without worries about anything
Vic Denwood, Biggleswade

Humiliation: Suez? Falklands! Kudos to our brave servicemen and women, but Thatcher's words ("It's exciting to have a real crisis on your hands, when you have spent half your political life dealing with humdrum issues like the environment") continue to embarrass.
Joe, Birmingham, UK

Despite downside of the 50's, most food one ate was fresh and home cooked, children could play out and come home for tea, neighbours all looked out for one and other and could reprimand children if they were doing something they shouldn't. I have happy memories of the 50's despite the pea-soupers (and getting lost in them!).
Madeline Luitsz, London UK

Looking at the list of things 'wrong' with the 50s, most people would agree that getting rid of smog and discrimination was way overdue. But now there is no rationing, and a lax attitude to sexual expression, we have obesity and rapidly growing numbers of people with STDs. And is it really good that we all have television now?
Peter, Newbury, UK

The anticipation of waiting for the delivery of my Robin comic (was it Fridays?), graduating to Swift, then to Eagle for me and Girl for my sister. And then the icing on the cake - the Annual at Christmas! Journey into Space (I hid behind the sofa); I Spy books, Ian Allen's train spotting (I think that was his name)- used to a lot of that. Simple pleasures - but as a child that's what it should all be about. The 50s for me were great. Deprived, with rationing and general post-war austerity? - not a bit of it. On the contrary, I feel extremely lucky to have been growing up at that time and am thankful that I"m not a child of the 21st century.
s, NewYork ex Kent UK

However there was a sense of social cohesion, common identity and a Utopian hope for the future, in spite of 'The Bomb', which birthed the 60s.
Clive, London


6 posted on 09/19/2007 2:26:06 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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Give me my culture and my community and hope for the future, and I will live with a lower economy and more primitive plumbing.


7 posted on 09/19/2007 2:26:28 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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Was there some reason points 2. and 7. were scrunched in on the side? Or were the two /p p accidentally deleted?

My fault. Didn't check the preview carefully enough.

8 posted on 09/19/2007 2:28:07 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Some of the Miss Read books focus on postwar life in Britian. Interesting books.


9 posted on 09/19/2007 2:29:08 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Kozak

10 posted on 09/19/2007 2:32:06 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: decimon
One time accidentally tried to change the font size to normal (from font =2, which seems a bit small), and used notepad to remove the 2s in the source code and put in 3--an extra measure that found out was unnecessary.

Thing was, was that there were several 2s that were actually in the text of the article itself (such as dates). There were parts of the post seemingly set after the year 3000.

11 posted on 09/19/2007 2:34:40 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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Mine was just a copy-paste. Looked right at first glance so I took no second.


12 posted on 09/19/2007 2:40:30 PM PDT by decimon
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When I was there 20 years ago, the houses we stayed in didn’t have central heat or showers (just tubs with handheld showerheads). And people thought we were weird for wanting to drink something cold, like fruit juice (not at breakfast).


13 posted on 09/19/2007 2:40:44 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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The 50’s in the States produced only one thing of any particular significance in my opinion. Modesty (cough! cough!) does not permit me to mention his name...


14 posted on 09/19/2007 2:42:11 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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The period after the war was also named the ‘golden age’.

Ironically, that ended near the end of the labour government, there was of course the Tory Boom thanks to Thatcher - but that ended in decline, followed by new labour...followed by?


15 posted on 09/19/2007 2:42:46 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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8. Sporting humiliation arrived when England's football team lost 6-3 to Hungary at Wembley, the first ever defeat to a non-British team at home.

Not to mention losing to the US 1-0 in the World Cup in 1950.

16 posted on 09/19/2007 2:44:03 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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“Rag-and-bone man is a British phrase for a junk dealer. Historically the phrase referred to an individual who would travel the streets of a city with a horsedrawn cart, and would collect old rags, (for converting into fabric and paper), bones for making glue, scrap iron and other items, often trading them for other items of limited value.

“The rag-and-bone men were an important component of society before automotive transport. Householders had limited ability to travel to collection points, so the various customers for rags, bones, and such materials relied on the rag-and-bone men to supply some of their materials. The increasingly widespread use of personal automobiles made these dealers unneeded in many areas.”
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rag_and_bone_man


17 posted on 09/19/2007 2:44:23 PM PDT by LucyT
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The 50’s in the States produced only one thing of any particular significance in my opinion. Modesty (cough! cough!) does not permit me to mention his name...

I was going to guess it was you but then I remembered there was no sexual activity in the 1950s.

18 posted on 09/19/2007 2:47:04 PM PDT by decimon
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To: 3AngelaD

Of course, that was before they were overrun by foreigners (e.g., Muslims) as well. How could one NOT be nostalgic for that?


19 posted on 09/19/2007 2:48:31 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: LucyT
“Rag-and-bone man is a British phrase for a junk dealer.

In new York, the junkman became a legendary figure whose heirs would find his mattress filled with money.

20 posted on 09/19/2007 2:50:00 PM PDT by decimon
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