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2 Polls Suggest Grim View of Surge (This makes me angry)
The Boston Globe ^ | September 10, 2007 | By Farah Stockman, Globe Staff

Posted on 09/10/2007 9:47:42 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle

Petraeus set to testify as pressures mount

WASHINGTON - As General David H. Petraeus, the top US commander in Iraq, prepared to report to Congress today on gains made by the surge of 30,000 additional US troops in Iraq, two national polls released yesterday indicated that a majority of Americans believe the increased US troop presence has failed to deliver significant improvements in the war-torn country. The polls are troubling signs for the Bush administration's intensifying efforts to keep up American support for a large-scale troop presence in Iraq.

Petraeus and Ryan Crocker, the US ambassador to Iraq, are slated to testify before four Congressional committees today and tomorrow. They are widely expected to report limited political progress in Iraq, but some significant military gains, including a reduction in sectarian violence and a new partnership with Sunni Muslim groups to fight Al Qaeda in Iraq forces in Anbar Province. Later this week, President Bush will announce his plans for the US military in Iraq.

Even before the week of high-stakes testimony begins, the report by Petraeus and Crocker has been the subject of a full-throttle public relations battle, as the administration and its supporters seek to turn the tide of US public opinion about the war, while those favoring a pullout seek to raise doubts about Petraeus's assessment.

Moveon.org, a liberal group that opposes the war, will run an ad today in The New York Times that asks: "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" The ad suggests that Petraeus is "cooking the books for the White House" by overstating progress there.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqbiassurge; pollsiniraq; pollsoniraq
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The MSM convinces the "Mindless Middle" that the war in Iraq is bad, although most of those polled couldn't find Iraq on a map. Then, they use the "polls" as topics for "news" articles.

Now, the Dem Senators think the "American People" support their position to end the war. It is an unspoken conspiracy that borders on treason. Grrrr...

1 posted on 09/10/2007 9:47:44 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle
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To: rightinthemiddle

Wouldn’t the poll make more sense to do after the report is released?


2 posted on 09/10/2007 9:50:19 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: rightinthemiddle

The sickening display of DemocRATs on the hearings, Skelton and now the little, creepy Lantos have spoken with such traitorous and arrogant accusations that I am hoping that the American people throw everyone in the DemocRAT Party OUT of Congress and the United States. This ia a national disgrace!


3 posted on 09/10/2007 9:52:32 AM PDT by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: Always Right

Doesn’t matter to the MSM!


4 posted on 09/10/2007 9:52:59 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Define “significant progress”


5 posted on 09/10/2007 9:54:21 AM PDT by vigilence
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To: rightinthemiddle

Polls don’t fight wars.


6 posted on 09/10/2007 9:54:25 AM PDT by papasmurf (I'm for Free, Fair, and Open trade. America needs to stand by it's true Friend. Israel.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

This MSM crap really smells like it’s coming from beneath the Demorats outhouse...


7 posted on 09/10/2007 9:54:44 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Cut and run Paul’s spammers have been hard at work I see.


8 posted on 09/10/2007 9:56:38 AM PDT by John D
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This is because of the constant hammering of the Lamestream Media with their negative BS. They have been pushing this from the day they heard their was a surge. They have hammered and hammered over and over again the negative view that the surge was and is not working. Folks this is called conditioning.
The American people are being conditioned daily by the mediocre Lamestream media in order to help the Socialist to push their agenda.
What is amazing, the Socialists (enlightened ones as they claim to be) are the very reason the Islamic Fascist hate our guts.
9 posted on 09/10/2007 9:59:12 AM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: John D

General Patton once articulated the truth (In 1945) that Americans hate a loser. After fighting for ties or losses in Korea, Vietnam, losing China, losing Cuba, too many Americans think that the Middle East is too far away to worry about. The MSM has pumped up the volume and propaganda too much. The Surge is starting to turn some opinion. If it continues to work another year or so, perhaps it will stabilize Iraq so the people can work out their problems. Surrender is not an option.


10 posted on 09/10/2007 10:02:34 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: rightinthemiddle

"2 Polls Suggest that the MSM's Two-week Blitz of Negative and False Reporting of General Petraeus's Unreleased Report Worked in Duping the Sheep."


11 posted on 09/10/2007 10:04:25 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Always Right
Wouldn’t the poll make more sense to do after the report is released?

Not if you are trying to engineer an outcome (i.e. a negative assessment of [any] progress in Iraq.)

12 posted on 09/10/2007 10:09:32 AM PDT by nonsporting
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Actually, the American people have every reason to be skeptical -- if not downright pessimistic -- about Iraq's future.

. . . some significant military gains, including a reduction in sectarian violence and a new partnership with Sunni Muslim groups to fight Al Qaeda in Iraq forces in Anbar Province.

I'd like to know how many U.S. soldiers have been killed and wounded in the last 4+ years by these "Sunni Muslim groups" that are supposed to be our partners now.

13 posted on 09/10/2007 10:10:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: avacado

In Current Polls, 80% of respondents believe Democrat congress critters are yellow belly cowards with their heads in the sand and waving a white flag of surrender.


14 posted on 09/10/2007 10:12:08 AM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Consider the source and the limited group of folks being polled. This resembles the inflated Lancet poll of civilian deaths in Iraq. Be skeptical. Be very skeptical.


15 posted on 09/10/2007 10:17:14 AM PDT by Col. Bob (To give in is to commit national suicide)
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To: rightinthemiddle
When you lose support for a war it is damn near impossible to get it back. Bush should of done this two years ago. History will not be kind. Of course History is written by lib’s which makes it even harder. If they can't win it now they will have to get out or President Hillary will take us out.
16 posted on 09/10/2007 10:19:38 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: rightinthemiddle

A test...

Boston Globe...check.

Two polls...check.

Haven’t clicked the link yet, will be surprised to see that neither of the polls are from Pew.

Let’s see.


17 posted on 09/10/2007 10:26:57 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: rightinthemiddle

Consider these controlled polls.


18 posted on 09/10/2007 10:33:00 AM PDT by freekitty (May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.)
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To: jeffers

Hmmm, no Pew poll.

Only a poll from the ever trustworthy ABC/Washington Post, and from the always esteemed CBS/New York Times.

I am wrong.

The liberals must be right.

Iraq was a bad idea.

We should have kept our slaves and let the south seceed.

I am stunned, and will never question our liberal masters again.

;-)


19 posted on 09/10/2007 10:33:57 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Alberta's Child
What is more important to you, vengeance or victory?
20 posted on 09/10/2007 10:43:33 AM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (FRee your mind.)
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