Posted on 08/19/2007 4:59:26 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, August 19th, 2007
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Karl Rove, White House deputy chief of staff.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Karl Rove, White House deputy chief of staff.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Karl Rove, White House deputy chief of staff; Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
THIS WEEK (ABC): A debate featuring Democratic presidential candidates Joe Biden, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Mike Gravel, Dennis Kucinich, Barack Obama and Bill Richardson.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sens. Bob Casey, D-Pa., and Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo.; Stephen Moore, former president of Club for Growth; Mahmoud Othman, a Kurdish Iraqi parliament member.
More precisely, the last sentence of my above post should read: since the 22nd amendment does not speak to the qualifications for BEING president, the 12th together with the 22nd cannot bar someone, eligible according to the 12th amendment alone, from succeeding, unelected, to the presidency.
The VP is an elected official. Since Bubba's ineligible to serve again, he cannot be in the line of succession to the presidency.
He'll back the Republican nominee.
I'm betting he'll not back any candidate until the nominee is decided but will be available to all of the campaigns for advice. He's said that unifying the party is one of his primary political interests right now.
Nice, Richardson wants to Balkanize Iraq the same way the Democrats like to Balkanize the US.
The only other one I could think of who would prostrate himself like this... would be Ashley Clark.
But I did notice the advert. at the end was for ADM (Another Democrat Machine).
So you argue that an ineligibility to be elected President makes a person ineligible to be elected vice-President because an ineligibility to be President makes a person ineligible to be vice-president. That’s a fallacious argument. The problem is that the constitution does not say you must be eligible to be ELECTED president in order to be vice-president. It only says you must be eligible to BE president in order to be vice-president. Sorry — wish it were otherwise, at least in this case.
Actually, there's a 10-year limit on how long the same person can be President. So, theoretically, on January 20, 2011, Bill Clinton could step in for Hillary and complete that term.
Of course, a Clinton/Clinton ticket would lead to a call for bleachers at Fort Marcy Park. I suppose the tree huggers would hate any large-scale construction there, but the Vince Foster Memorial Observation Deck might be approved.
I watched Rove slap Gregory around a bit, watched him match wits with Chris Wallace (absolutely no contest there) and am now watching FTN with Schieffer.
Bob Schieffer is really the worst interviewer. Rove is masterful with old Bob and is actually being a bit respectful to all the stupid insinuations and questions.
I just wish old Timmy had been around this morning instead of Gregory. Rove would have toyed with him unmercifully and Timmy would still be shaking his head, checking to see if he still had his job, and wondering just what in hell had happened.
I don’t see where Bubba is excluded from serving as VP since him succeeding HRC would not be by “election”.
It's at the end of the XII Amendment:
"... no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
Until the XXII Amendment bubba would have been eligable to be VP. Since he's now ineligible to be President he's ineligible to be VP under Amendment XII, which is still in effect.
Pretty much my argument would be a person who has served two terms as President is ineligible to be in the line of succession to that office....elected or otherwise.
It will make an interesting Constitutional debate; one that will be solved by more learned legal scholars than me ;-)
As usual you are probably right.
Biden: The only time we should fight is when the enemy lets us win, like they did in Bosnia.
Unfortunately, I don’t expect there is an interesting constitutional debate. The problem is that people have worked with presuppositions formed from the standard way things work, and concluded that the Constitution forbids anyone from being president longer than 10 years. Anyone who googles the 22nd amendment can see that it plainly can have no bearing upon anything other than whether a person can be elected president.
Gratuitous Elizabeth Kucinich Shot
Nominate Bubba s Hillary's VP and what that Pandora's box pop open! ;^D
Gravel: People who pray are bloodthirsty warmongers.
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