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Universities Install Footbaths to Benefit Muslims, and Not Everyone Is Pleased
NY Times ^ | August 7, 2007 | TAMAR LEWIN

Posted on 08/07/2007 4:21:21 AM PDT by Pharmboy


Fabrizio Costantini for The New York Times
A footbath has been installed in a corner of a unisex restroom at the student center at Eastern
Michigan University in Ypsilanti. The University of Michigan-Dearborn has installed footbaths
in an effort to accommodate Muslim students.

DEARBORN, Mich. — When pools of water began accumulating on the floor in some restrooms at the University of Michigan-Dearborn, and the sinks pulling away from the walls, ... some were washing their feet in the sinks.

...the university announced that it would install $25,000 foot-washing stations in several restrooms.

...it created instant controversy, with bloggers going on about the Islamification of the university, ... or unconstitutional government support for that religion.

But after a Muslim student at Minneapolis Community and Technical College slipped and hurt herself last fall while washing her feet in a sink, ...double standard — stopping a campus coffee cart from playing Christmas music but taking a different attitude toward Islam.

“After the column, a Christian conservative group issued an action alert to its members, which prompted 3,000 e-mail and 600 voice messages to me and/or legislators,” said Phil Davis, president of the college.

On her Web site, Debbie Schlussel, a conservative lawyer and blogger in Southfield, Mich., posted, “Forget about the Constitutionally mandated separation of church and state ... at least when it comes to mosque and state.”

The American Civil Liberties Union says the footbath issue is complex.

“Our policy is to object whenever public funds are spent on any brick and mortar component of religion,” said Kary Moss, director of the Michigan Civil Liberties Union. “What makes this different, though, is that the footbaths themselves can be used by anyone, don’t have any symbolic value and are not stylized in a religious way..."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: aclu; antichristianleague; crushislam; islam; islamification; korananimals; mosqueandstate; muslimfootbaths; muslims; muslimstudents; trop; universities
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Another reason to love the ACLU, huh?
1 posted on 08/07/2007 4:21:24 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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“...footbaths themselves can be used by anyone...”

Well then, I guess the biology lab can dissect pigs in the foot baths, huh?

2 posted on 08/07/2007 4:28:07 AM PDT by shove_it (nonilligitimus carborundum)
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To: Pharmboy

Prolly one of those old timey urinals, that stretches out half a meter along the floor. Some pee, others footwash. What’s to complain about.


3 posted on 08/07/2007 4:29:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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woops, that’s before i saw the picture. shoot why not make it a shower.


4 posted on 08/07/2007 4:29:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: shove_it

that’ll be the question. But I think I’d rather have the foot baths than having somebody wash his feet where I have to brush my teeth.


5 posted on 08/07/2007 4:30:16 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It would be terrible if an occasional random turd found its way in there.


6 posted on 08/07/2007 4:30:44 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Pharmboy

Looks like a low-walled urinal to me. I know if I were there, that’s what I would use it for. Daily.


7 posted on 08/07/2007 4:30:45 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Pharmboy

OTOH, wet floors are a hazard to everyone using the facility.


8 posted on 08/07/2007 4:31:45 AM PDT by elli1
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To: shove_it

Easy to fix. If they want to support one religion over others, take away their federal funding. Simple. BTW, pressure on the ACLU may be effective here.


9 posted on 08/07/2007 4:32:37 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Once a conservative Republican; now only a conservative.)
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Maybe we need more militant Christians, too.


10 posted on 08/07/2007 4:34:21 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Once a conservative Republican; now only a conservative.)
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Why not just punish the behavior that is causing the hazard for others? If I were splashing water all over the place and pulling the sinks from the walls, shouldn't I get in trouble for vandalism?

Try to separate the religion aspect from it.

11 posted on 08/07/2007 4:34:29 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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On the other hand, at one company I worked for I got tired of walking into the mens room and finding some jackass washing his feet in the sink. I suppose it’s as much for our sanity as it is for their convenience.


12 posted on 08/07/2007 4:34:34 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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Actually, they are showers for toddlers.

Or, as in the case of the Muslim cabbies at KC airport, the shower stalls are so they can fill up buckets to clean their cabs.


13 posted on 08/07/2007 4:34:48 AM PDT by Lobbyist (I want my American dream!!!!)
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Maybe we need more militant Christians, too.

Why? Do they wash their feet in the sink, too?

14 posted on 08/07/2007 4:35:41 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yep, good enough to “let some water”.


15 posted on 08/07/2007 4:36:57 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Pharmboy
Reminds me of this:


16 posted on 08/07/2007 4:37:01 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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It would be terrible if an occasional random turd found its way in there.

It's a good thing the coffee was still brewing when I read that. LOL!

17 posted on 08/07/2007 4:37:45 AM PDT by GreenAccord
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I demand that the college put holy water fonts in classrooms for Catholics. They can be made such that they “can be used by anyone, don’t have any symbolic value and are not stylized in a religious way.” I also demand that they install kneelers (prie dieux) in libraries and various locations so they can kneel and pray. These also can be made such that they “can be used by anyone, don’t have any symbolic value and are not stylized in a religious way.”


18 posted on 08/07/2007 4:38:50 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Pharmboy

It looks like some urinals I’ve seen. Maybe it will be used that way - accidentally, of course.


19 posted on 08/07/2007 4:39:08 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Rapscallion
If they want to support one religion over others, take away their federal funding TAXPAYER MONEY!
20 posted on 08/07/2007 4:41:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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