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1 posted on 07/13/2007 5:15:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Why not, he abandoned us a long time ago.


2 posted on 07/13/2007 5:16:13 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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Bush abandoned the Conservative base that elected him twice to the presidency. He only has himself to blame...


3 posted on 07/13/2007 5:16:44 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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For just a second, let's not talk about Iraq.

Let's talk about immigration. I didn't leave the president, the president left me. If he will build the fence and enforce the laws of this country, then I will walk through fire for him. Let him make a commitment to rejoin Conservatives on this issue.

Then we can talk about Iraq.

5 posted on 07/13/2007 5:17:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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I couldn’t help but think of fellow conservatives who are starting to give aid and comfort to these Democrat Party loyal oppositionists.

The effect on party politics is irrelevant (and crass to even bring up). Abandoning support of Bush is simply the right thing to do, as he has violated his oath of office and exhibited contempt for our laws, our Constitution and for the people who sign his paycheck.

7 posted on 07/13/2007 5:22:08 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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"Liberals are emboldened by Republican-fueled criticism. And if good folks like Byron York aren’t careful, we’ll be handing over the White House on a silver platter to Hillary or Barack. After all, just how far can Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson distance themselves from the Bush Administration? "

Excellent points. Much agreed.

8 posted on 07/13/2007 5:22:58 AM PDT by TAdams8591 ( Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag. Mitt Romney for president in 2008! : ))
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According to Byron York of the National Review, the Republican Party base has simply decided to throw Mr. Bush under the wheels of the bus.

Gallagher couldn't be more wrong.

Conservatives got tired of defending Bush and then having the White House not join the defense OR come out against his own defenders.

And then there are policy difference with McCain-Feingold and Illegal Amnesty. Those are huge disagreements with his base, and he's chosen to fight them over it, and they fought back.

Abandon the President? He's not abandoned. He's supported on points of agreement and not supported on points of disagreement.

10 posted on 07/13/2007 5:24:24 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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The only problem I have with this President is his inability to deal with the illegal immigration issue the right way. Maybe I just don’t understand his motivations on that issue. But as for just about everyting else, he has been a good President, despite what you may hear and see in the media and from the far left types.

The 2008 election, however, scares me. Those who villify the President now will be even less happy next year. Unless Fred Thompson runs, there is not one single good Presidential candiate among the whole lot — that includes both parties. I’m expecting we will have a socialist Democrat in the White House in 2009, and it may well be Hillary. Four more years of Clinton rule will be far worse than eight years of George Bush. You can take that to the bank. (Well, actually, if Miz Clinton does get elected, you won’t have a bank to go to once she destroys the economy.)


11 posted on 07/13/2007 5:24:31 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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It is impossible for me to leave someone that left me. When he comes back, and I see more than mere words, I will consider my options. Till then, I've moved on.

My only issues are National Security and Border Security. Everything else to me comes under these two banners. I voted twice for the man, but when it came time for the man to give me what I voted for (twice) he failed me and then left me in a cloud of dust. If he reforms, I'll lay on a bed of nails to cushion his body from the barbs, otherwise he may go lay on his own bed of nails without me to cushion him.

12 posted on 07/13/2007 5:24:42 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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this wise@ss frat-boy abandoned us.

... “I’ll see you at the bill signing.”


13 posted on 07/13/2007 5:24:55 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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I’m more concerned about how to seriously and successfully prevent the Democratic Party from winning “the whole enchilada” in ‘08.


14 posted on 07/13/2007 5:27:20 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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Even Jethro Bodine is smart enough to know that amnesty for 20+ million proto democrat aliens will literally hamstring the republican party for the foreseeable future..

The ONLY question is, is he stupid or traitorous savant.. or a democrat mole..

18 posted on 07/13/2007 5:28:53 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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Its called trust. The immigration bill was so bad and his attack dogs like Graham and Martinez and himself insulted the base in the same manner the libs have for years (bigots, vigilantes, not wanting whats best for America). He knows we want border enforcement first and proof its being done but he does not want this so we are bigots.

When you push so ferociously against those who voted for you while defending great statesmen such as Ted Kennedy, there is a problem.

I believed in the Iraq war and still want to win it, but I question Bush's desire to really win it. I also question his motives now. When 7,000 Iraqis are coming to live in America after 3,000 Americans went to Iraq and gave their life so those 7,000 could be free, I have a real problem with that.

Its not that Conservatives don't want to win, its that we no longer trust Bush's motives and loyalty.

21 posted on 07/13/2007 5:32:17 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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Bush may be a good and decent man who believes he’s right, but that isn’t a cause to abandon him as a leader. He’s no Moses. Moses led his people into - AND OUT OF - the desert. Bush led us into the desrt and left us.

IMO, that’s not a reason to stick with him. It’s more than just his bad policies - MUCH more!! I respect him for not leading on the basis of the latest poll or focus group opinion (unlike his predecessor) and for the tax cuts and the prosecution of the GWOT. But that’s about as far as I can go. He hasn’t earned my respect beyond that.


23 posted on 07/13/2007 5:32:50 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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Has Mike Gallagher ever had an original thought? Ever?

Oh, except for giving the Phelps cult huge chunks of his air time?

25 posted on 07/13/2007 5:33:30 AM PDT by don-o (End Freepathons forever. Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor)
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Bush needs to do SOMETHING CONSERVATIVE to reach Conservatives.


28 posted on 07/13/2007 5:36:19 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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According to Byron York of the National Review, the Republican Party base has simply decided to throw Mr. Bush under the wheels of the bus.

Mr. York is wrong, of course.

We didn't throw him under the bus.

He jumped.

If he wants back on the sidewalk, he should abandon the amnesty crap, secure the border, and make bloody sure the word gets out wbout what is going right in Iraq, (before the media wins the war for Al-Qaida--who would stone that pack of stupid faggots in a heartbeat).

32 posted on 07/13/2007 5:41:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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Being a good and decent man is just great. I don’t know about his personal life so can’t make a judgement on that. Giving Africa 15 billions dollars for aids might be generous, but I doubt if it will do any good or will be of any benefit to America. I’d like a president who does the will of the American people and does wha is in the best interest of the American people. He failed us on illegals and is still failing on border security. The current bag of top candidates is not good. The rulers have lost touch with the ruled. conservatives are not lining up with democrats. They’re lining up with Conservatives. President Bush has abandoned conservatives too many times.


33 posted on 07/13/2007 5:41:43 AM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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I strongly support Bush on the war in Iraq and the WOT in general. I was also very disappointed about his support of an amnesty bill and holding border security [including a program to control visa overstays] hostage to the passage of comprehensive immigration reform.

The author of this article fails to mention the link between the need to control our borders and national security. Bush undermines his own case for the need for us to be in Iraq while almost 6 years after 9/11 doing little to secure our borders and implementing fully the US Visit Program that was passed in 1996.

If/when this country is struck again with another 9/11 attack and it is found that the perpetrators either came across our southern border illegally or were on legal visas and overstayed them, as did four of the 19 9/11 hijackers, who will be held accountable? George Bush.

37 posted on 07/13/2007 5:43:59 AM PDT by kabar
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Being a good and decent man is just great. I don’t know about his personal life so can’t make a judgement on that. Giving Africa 15 billions dollars for aids might be generous, but I doubt if it will do any good or will be of any benefit to America. I’d like a president who does the will of the American people and does what is in the best interest of the American people. He failed us on illegals and is still failing on border security. The current bag of top candidates is not good. The rulers have lost touch with the ruled. Conservatives are not lining up with democrats. They’re lining up with Conservatives. President Bush has abandoned conservatives too many times.


38 posted on 07/13/2007 5:44:02 AM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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Conservatives haven’t abandoned Bush. Radicals have. Conservatives are not radicals.


40 posted on 07/13/2007 5:46:56 AM PDT by HoustonTech
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