Exploring Islam's 'Death Cult' (Muslims must find a way to remove the cancer infecting their...)

Newsweek ^ | July 6, 2007 | Michael Hirsh

[neverdem]

It is the question at the back of many people's minds as they absorb the frightening details of the terror plot in Britain. Yes, we understand that many Muslims are angry—about the Iraq War, about Israeli policy toward the Palestinians and the usual list of grievances. But there are many people, in many different societies and cultures, who are angry about many things. Would any other culture or religion produce a group of doctors and...

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The conservative commentator Cal Thomas also used a cancer metaphor in comments that provoked an outcry from the U.S. Muslim community in recent days. “How much longer should we allow people from certain lands, with certain beliefs to come to Britain and America and build their mosques, teach hate, and plot to kill us?" Thomas asked. "OK, let's have the required disclaimer: Not all Muslims from the Middle East and Southeast Asia want to kill us, but those who do blend in with those who don't. Would anyone tolerate a slow-spreading cancer because it wasn't fast-spreading? Probably not. You'd want it removed."

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“When I look back at Islamic history over the last few centuries, there was a long period of comparative stability from 1400 onward, in which there was a kind of understanding that Islam deplored anarchy,” says Richard Bulliet, a noted scholar of the Arab world at Columbia University.

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It remains so today, as we have seen most tragicially in the bloodbath between Sunni and Shia in Iraq. These schisms have prevented the greater healing—for example a pan-Islamic declaration opposing the use of terrorism against innocents—that must occur within Islam as a whole. Muslims must find a way to remove this modern cancer—this fundamentalist death cult—that has infected their religion. None of us on the outside can do it for them.

[neverdem]

Since the fifthteenth century when Ferdinand and Isabella got rid of the Moors, who wanted to deal with Islam if they didn't have to? Western Civilization wanted a way to get to the Far East without dealing with them. In that process, they explored the rest of the world.

[Gorzaloon]

Muslims must find a way to remove this modern cancer—this fundamentalist death cult—that has infected their religion. None of us on the outside can do it for them.

I beg to differ. Radiation Therapy does have its applications in cancer treatment.

[rageaholic]

dang, even liberal rag like Newsweek is hinting that islam isn’t the ROP that Bush says it is. Those roasted muslim doctors really did us a favor.

[theBuckwheat]

This article, as to many, has the situation upside down and inside out.

This “cancer”, as is commonly called, appears to be the reality of the faith. It is “moderation” that is the cancer, that will neuter the spiritual warfare the faith demands its followers engage in against all unbelievers. Indeed, these are institutionalized in the Three Demands: convert, submit or die.

It appears that “moderates” are just people who cannot quite bring themselves to the reality that the Koran describes,

[rageaholic]

lol

[kindred]

Islam is a death culture at the core of it’s religion, one has but to read the Koran to understand it is not and has never been and will never be a “religion of peace” but is a religon of violence and murder. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Study their whole history and you will be see that it is the bloodiest of religions. And secular humanism and evolution are as bad.

[Moonmad27]

This reminds me of Thomas Friedman’s very similar article. Maybe some libs are being forced to wake up?

[Fred Nerks]

‘“When I look back at Islamic history over the last few centuries, there was a long period of comparative stability from 1400 onward, in which there was a kind of understanding that Islam deplored anarchy,” says Richard Bulliet, a noted scholar of the Arab world at Columbia University.’

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Richard Bulliet, is either an idiot or a liar!

http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/Commentary/IslamHistory0212.aspx

The Muslim wars of imperialist conquest have been launched for almost 1,500 years against hundreds of nations, over millions of square miles (significantly larger than the British Empire at its peak). The lust for Muslim imperialist conquest stretched from southern France to the Philippines, from Austria to Nigeria, and from central Asia to New Guinea. This is the classic definition of imperialism — “the policy and practice of seeking to dominate the economic and political affairs of weaker countries.”

Colonialist

The Muslim goal was to have a central government, first at Damascus, and then at Baghdad — later at Cairo, Istanbul, or other imperial centers. The local governors, judges, and other rulers were appointed by the central imperial authorities for far off colonies. Islamic law was introduced as the senior law, whether or not wanted by the local people. Arabic was introduced as the rulers’ language, and the local language frequently disappeared. Two classes of residents were established. The native residents paid a tax that their colonialist rulers did not have to pay.

Although the law differed in different places, the following are examples of colonialist laws to which colonized Christians and Jews were made subject to over the years:

Christians and Jews could not bear arms — Muslims could;
Christians and Jews could not ride horses — Muslims could;
Christians and Jews had to get permission to build — Muslims did not;
Christians and Jews had to pay certain taxes which Muslims did not;
Christians could not proselytize — Muslims could;
Christians and Jews had to bow to their Muslim masters when they paid their taxes; and
Christians and Jews had to live under the law set forth in the Koran, not under either their own religious or secular law.
In each case, these laws allowed the local conquered people less freedom than was allowed the conquering colonialist rulers. Even non-Arab Muslim inhabitants of the conquered lands became second class citizens behind the ruling Arabs. This is the classic definition of colonialist — “a group of people who settle in a distant territory from the state having jurisdiction or control over it and who remain under the political jurisdiction of their native land.”

We will talk about “bloody” as we proceed. Because the U.S. News article related only to the Christian west against the Muslim east, except in this paragraph I will not describe the almost 1,500 years of Muslim imperialistic, colonialist, bloody conquest and subjugation of others through invasion and war to the east of Arabia in Iraq, Persia, and much further eastward, which continues to this day...

[Publius6961]

“When I look back at Islamic history over the last few centuries, there was a long period of comparative stability from 1400 onward, in which there was a kind of understanding that Islam deplored anarchy,” says Richard Bulliet, a noted scholar of the Arab world at Columbia University.

I wish Richard Bulliet, the islamist had been a bit more candid, honest and complete in describing "long periods of comparative stability", to mean islamic murdering inactivity.

In every instance, it was the result of the maggots having their butts handed to them; unfortunately, the West never has decided to wipe them out completely and do a proper job.

The significant motivation for licking their wounds were the failed siege of Vienna 1529, and the Battle of Lepanto 1571. The maggots were decisively routed.

Of course, they mellowed out. Their Caliphate was disintegrating after that, and the importance and power of the West was rising even faster than the previous 200 years.

After around 1200, islam had pretty much burned out. Ran out of cultures to capture and destroy, after claiming that culture's achievements, of course...

[TASMANIANRED]

They can’t rid themselves of it.. It is their identity.

[onedoug]

...one has but to read the Koran to understand it is not and has never been and will never be a “religion of peace” but is a religon of violence and murder.

I've read it and it scares the living hell out of me. Bush is just plain nuts on this as well as on too many other things lately. To trust islam is eventual suicide.

[Anti-Bubba182]

As far a Muslims are concerned Spain is still Islamic land. They want it back. Cultural relativism, multiculturalism and any poisonous anti-western "ism" will be the death of us.

If a Muslim cleric says he wants Sharia law, treat it as a threat. It is not a metaphorical call for, "that old time religion". They want the laws of the Seventh Century for everyone now. It is stupid to regard them as a Baptist might regard a Lutheran. Islam is against all other Religions in a militant and violent way.

[Lost Dutchman]

What worries me is that people say Islam needs a “reformation”.

The whole premise of a reformation is a return to the old ways. Martin Luther did not have a new idea. What he believed was that something had been tragically lost in Christianity, let us recapture it.

The current outbreaks of violence and intolerance is Islam’s reformation. They also feel that something has been tragically lost, and they are recapturing it.

[neverdem]

This has Cal Thomas' quote that got some panties in a twist.

History's bloodiest siege used human heads as cannonballs (Siege of Malta in 1565 against Muslims)

The CIA Follies (Cont'd.) quite a collection

Halberstam’s History: No hero

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[ekeni]

Some non sanitised original Islamic history on Mohammad’ form of cancer:
Mohammad said to kill any Jew who falls within your power. Muhayyisa kills Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant. Muhayyisa said if Mohammad had told him to kill his elder brother (Hurayyisa) he would have done so. The elder brother converted to Islam as he thought that a religion that can bring you to do that is marvellous.

[PGalt]

Thanks for the ping. GRRRRREAT FReeper comments! BUMP.

[Valin]

Well we could read and folllow these
Bolstering Moderate Muslims
DanielPipes.org ^ | 4/17/07 | Daniel Pipes

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819926/posts

When I suggest that radical Muslims are the problem and that moderate Muslims are the solution, the nearly inevitable retort from most people is: “What moderate Muslims?”

“Where are the anti-Islamists’ demonstrations against terror?” they ask me. “What are they doing to combat Islamists? What have they done to reassess Islamic law?”

My response: Moderate Muslims do exist. But, of course, they constitute a very small movement when compared to the Islamist onslaught. This means that the American government and other powerful institutions should give priority to locating, meeting with, funding, forwarding, empowering, and celebrating those brave Muslims who, at personal risk, stand up and confront the totalitarians.

A just-published study from the RAND Corporation, Building Moderate Muslim Networks, methodically takes up and thinks through this concept. Angel Rabasa, Cheryl Benard, Lowell Schwartz, and Peter Sickle grapple intelligently with the innovative issue of helping moderate Muslims to grow and prosper.
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Road Map for Moderate Network Building in the Muslim World (long read)
RAND Corp. ^ | Angel Rabasa, Cheryl Benard, Lowell H. Schwartz, Peter Sickle

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818382/posts

Identifying Key Partners and Audiences

A critical part of U.S. network-building efforts, as well as in its broader public diplomacy and strategic communications policy, is identifying key partners and audiences. Difficulties in distinguishing potential allies from adversaries present a major problem to Western governments and organizations attempting to organize support for moderate Muslims. Work done by the RAND Corporation—in Cheryl Benard’s Civil Democratic Islam and Angel Rabasa et al., The Muslim World After 9/11—has begun to lay the framework for identifying ideological tendencies in the Muslim world,1 which is necessary in order to identify the sectors with which the United States and its allies can be most e.ective in promoting democracy and stability to counter the in.uence of extremist and violent groups.
Around the world Muslims differ substantially not only in their religious views, but also in their political and social orientation, including their conceptions of government; their views on the primacy of shari’a (Islamic law) versus other sources of law; their views on human rights, especially the rights of women and religious minorities; and whether they support, justify, or tolerate violence perpetrated in advancement of a political or religious agenda. We refer to these as “marker issues,” and the position of groups or individuals on them allows for a more precise classifcation of these groups in terms of their a.nity for democracy and pluralism.

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Or we could rant and rave thump our chest and generaly act like fools.

[tioga]

It appears that “moderates” are just people who cannot quite bring themselves to the reality that the Koran describes,

Frightening.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks neverdem. The current cover shown on the linked page is former madrassa enrollee Obama. :')

Muslims must find a way to remove the cancer infecting their religion.

Mass suicide would do it. Not sure anything else would.