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Fallout's Just Begun from Immigration Bill's Failure (Wall Street Journal Post Mortem)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 6/29/07 | John Harwood

Posted on 06/30/2007 2:34:23 PM PDT by hardback

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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Big News on the Immigration Front From... Pennsylvania!

ALLENTOWN, Pa. — Hazleton Mayor Lou Barletta, who gained national prominence by targeting illegal immigrants living in his small northeastern Pennsylvania city, cruised to the Republican nomination for a third term on Tuesday - and unexpectedly won the Democratic nomination, too.

Barletta trounced GOP challenger Dee Deakos with nearly 94 percent of the vote. And he beat former Mayor Michael Marsicano for the Democratic nomination by staging a last-minute write-in campaign, all but guaranteeing himself another term, unofficial returns showed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1842832/posts


41 posted on 06/30/2007 2:50:16 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Cowboy Bob
A majority of Californians voted for the Law, a single Judge blocked it, and somehow escaped the tar & feathers.
42 posted on 06/30/2007 2:50:33 PM PDT by ASA Vet (http://www.rinorepublic.com)
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To: Lurker
Winning a seat that had been held for 16 straight terms by a Republican.....Means what?...Other then it went Republican again... (defeating an antiwar candidate in the process).
43 posted on 06/30/2007 2:50:57 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: hardback
And those voters have now heard loud expressions of alarm from the Republican right about their presence in the U.S. That echoes what they heard from California Gov. Pete Wilson in 1994, which benefited Mr. Wilson in the short term but has damaged the party in the Golden State ever since.

Lies upon lies upon lies. What moved CA firmly into the 'Rat camp was the amnesty granted to millions of illegals in the late 80s, not anything Pete Wilson said or did in '94. The GOP Presidential candidate won CA's huge chuck of electoral votes in six straight general elections, from the late 60s to the late 80s. But after amnesty was passed and those millions of "natural GOP voters" got their citizenship CA has chosen the Democrat candidate in every subsequent election. ...and not surprisingly the margin is getting greater every year.

The WSJ knows full well illegal aliens are far more likely to vote Donkey than Elephant, so their "analysis" showing otherwise is a pure lie. Their loyalty is to big biz, not the United States. .....and that could be said about a disconcertingly high number of our elected officals as well.

44 posted on 06/30/2007 2:51:04 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: hardback
And those voters have now heard loud expressions of alarm from the Republican right about their presence in the U.S.

Correction: "..their illegal presence in the U.S."

45 posted on 06/30/2007 2:51:10 PM PDT by Banjoguy (Eventually, all television programming, without exception, resolves to pure bullcrap.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

With the right spin, it should help. With almost 80% of Americans against this bill the GOP should be able to ride this issue to the white house, especially with emphasis on better border security and enforcement.

Constantly remind illegal groups that the GOP President Bush tried to be compassionate and was stopped by the ineptness of mean old Democrat Harry Reid who couldn’t get 14 democrats to vote yea instead of nay.


46 posted on 06/30/2007 2:51:35 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: gusopol3
Did he blow last year's congressional election on purpose?

I thought he was going to a good year before the election...when he lost the previous go-around on Illegal Aliens Amnesty...and also on introducing the Law of the Sea Treaty.

The Conservative Majority running interference against his liberal agenda had to go.

Michael Savage also thinks so. Rush and Hannity probably know it. And Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin and possibly Laura Ingrahm clearly suspect so.

47 posted on 06/30/2007 2:52:50 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: hardback

I think this is more an example of the fallout of the collapse of the Rove View of the World. Even the first two sentences are lame attempts to keep the “2006 election loss” on immigration going.


48 posted on 06/30/2007 2:54:36 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Retired Chemist
Country before party.

Tell that to the Dems

49 posted on 06/30/2007 2:55:24 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Cowboy Bob

The Republican Party in California wasn’t destroyed by immigration.

The Republican Party was torn apart because the moron candidate Republicans ran after Pete Wilson’s term, was a bland, unprincipled, uninspiring RINO who actually advocated gun confiscation!!

The Republican Party was torn apart because it acted like DEMOCRATS.

It’s the very same reason the GOP lost in the congressional elections last year. Because they had become weenies.

Why is that so difficult to understand??

Voters aren’t communists.

They’re conservative, mostly.

ACT THAT WAY.


50 posted on 06/30/2007 2:57:18 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (D is for Defeatism. R is for Reconquista.)
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To: Retired Chemist
The Democrats are party before country.

The Wall Street Journal is country club before country.

51 posted on 06/30/2007 2:57:54 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: hardback
This stupid rant has it exactly backwards.

"hispanics" - whatever that is - make up something on the order of 3% of the national electorate (those who actually vote). Obviously in some states, that's higher. But on a national level, that's what it is.

Passing the most sweeping and divisive give away in American history to get mmm, maybe 0.4% more of the national vote is not merely bad politics, it's beyond insane.

The truth is, with this vote, many Republicans have redeemed themselves, and that means that their core constituency - the unmentionable "non-hispanic whites" that we are now referred to as - are more likely to stay with the fold. With the emergence of new leaders like Jeff Sessions, Jim DeMint, and David Vitter, we have the possibility of cleansing the party of whack jobs like McCain, morons like Kyl, and a traitor like Bush (there. I said it. so, ban away...).

So with something like 75 to 80% of the electorate coming from that group, lets say the End of Amnesty means the Republicans get back, oh, 5 to 7%. Without compromising the very nature of our laws and nation.

I'd take 5% any day over 0.4%.

Maybe Karl and Jorge were absent that day in algebra.

52 posted on 06/30/2007 3:00:11 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Voters aren’t communists.

They’re conservative, mostly.

Why is it that politicians "Run to the Right" to get elected, and once in office, they "Govern to the Left?"

I just want a President/Senator/Congressman who runs as a Conservative, and then stays Conservative once they are in office.

53 posted on 06/30/2007 3:01:00 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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To: Defiant
Hispanics have lots of legal children coming of age to vote. The flood gates have been open for thirty years.
54 posted on 06/30/2007 3:01:38 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: hardback

Note to WSJ: People don’t vote R or D because of their skin color or the language they speak at home. They vote R or D because of their socioeconomic status, and playing race-based kissy face will not change that.

Poor people vote Dem. Always have, always will. Given the need and opportunity, people will always vote themselves the money of others. Bank on it. Understanding that simple, basic fact, which somehow eludes the RINOS and country clubbers of the party, makes it utter insanity to legalize a many-million-strong underclass of low-skilled, poorly-educated people. I’ll say it again a different way: when you’re one of the ones taking, you vote Dem, when you’re one of the ones paying through the nose, you vote Republican. The only exception is a few limousine liberals, and there are not enough of them to change the outcome of elections.

The only conceivable way the poor, unskilled, uneducated underclass will ever vote for Republicans is if the Republicans promise them more economic goodies than the Dems. Which is impossible, because there is nothing the Dems won’t promise and no vote they won’t try to buy on the taxpayers’ dime.

The Republican Party has no chance, none, at getting these people as voters. Buy a clue and stop trying. The Republican Party has to stop being the DemLite Party and start articulating conservative ideas. Stop operating out of fear and use your strengths. Conservatism still wins in America. The gazillions of phone calls, faxes, emails, and letters to Senators over the past few weeks should be proof of that. Be conservative and most of America will follow. Pander to this group and that group, and you will continue to lose elections.


55 posted on 06/30/2007 3:01:44 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
We’re not anti-Bush.

I wasn't. I am now.

56 posted on 06/30/2007 3:02:45 PM PDT by surely_you_jest (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers)
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To: hardback
"And those voters have now heard loud expressions of alarm from the Republican right about their presence in the U.S."

What a steamy pile of democrat! This sort of out & out lie makes me see red. While there were a few (from the extreme ends of the spectrum) that have used this battle against illegal invasion of our country to bash Mexicans, the vast majority have been demanding that Congress and the President pull their heads out of their rears and do something to protect our country. The voices that I heard shouted out against the illegals, regardless of race or country of origin. That Mexicans feeeeel picked on reveals that we've struck a tender nerve.

I don't GAS who illegals prefer in the vote - they have no right to vote! I'm incensed at those who would pander for such a forbidden fruit. They should be hounded from office.

Blacks, Latinos, and other minorities should be drawn to the Republican Party because they recognize that it is the one party that offers the hope of self-determination. There is no way that we can out do the Dhimmis with their buy~a~vote schemes of cheap trinkets and cheaper promises. If they can't see the truth there's little that anyone can do to open their eyes.


57 posted on 06/30/2007 3:03:39 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: PhiKapMom
With so many people opposed to illegal immigration, how could it hurt our candidate? I would think it would hurt the Dems since their candidates voted for the bill.

And in addition, the illegals take jobs away from white, black, and legals. And it you factor in the overwhelming Americans from both parties that reject this immigration bill, I think the Republicans will gain tremendous. What we need is for our running politicians to stress this fact that saving America will need politicians that truly believe this attack on America is heavily imported by the illegal traffic of all kinds and it will take conservative Constitutionalists to do the job.

58 posted on 06/30/2007 3:04:04 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: rovenstinez
Amen to that...in every phone call and fax during this siege, I put the terrorist illegals front and center in my pitch. The Mexicans will understand a security fence and likely try to enter legally, but the terror people who want to come here just don’t care.

I read something yesterday that was chilling. Some Muslim cleric said that, “Democracy is a nice bus to ride until we reach our station”. They mean to kill us all, and that has been greatly overlooked in this debate.

59 posted on 06/30/2007 3:05:07 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: PhiKapMom

See posts 33 and 41 on this same thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1858932/posts?page=33#33


60 posted on 06/30/2007 3:05:20 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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