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Fallout's Just Begun from Immigration Bill's Failure (Wall Street Journal Post Mortem)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 6/29/07 | John Harwood

Posted on 06/30/2007 2:34:23 PM PDT by hardback

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To: Earthdweller

61 posted on 06/30/2007 3:05:27 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: surely_you_jest

We’re not anti-Bush.

I wasn’t. I am now.

-

I was last week.

Buck it up.

There’s democrats to fight. :)


62 posted on 06/30/2007 3:06:19 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (D is for Defeatism. R is for Reconquista.)
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To: hardback
Most legal Mexican immigrants who became citizens and others pretty much all hated the bill as well.

What the hell is this report about, there is no Hispanic base wanting all these illegals in. This is small minority of citizens with a crowd of law breaking illegals who show they are for this.

They can all go to hell unless they follow the rules, marry some American or something...

63 posted on 06/30/2007 3:07:22 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Earthdweller

BEAUTIFUL!


64 posted on 06/30/2007 3:10:00 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: hardback

Dear Wall Street Jouranl editorial page staff: ESAD.


65 posted on 06/30/2007 3:10:39 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: hardback
Could they be more clueless? More politically tone deaf? More wrong?

How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico

I Like Ike.

The Fiscal Cost of Low-Skill Immigrants to the U.S. Taxpayer

66 posted on 06/30/2007 3:11:47 PM PDT by sourcery (Anthropogenic Global Warming: A convenient lie designed to establish socialism by fear and deception)
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To: LadyNavyVet
I’ll say it again a different way: when you’re one of the ones taking, you vote Dem, when you’re one of the ones paying through the nose, you vote Republican.

A different tax system would completely alter this calculus.

67 posted on 06/30/2007 3:12:57 PM PDT by surely_you_jest (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers)
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To: hardback

These people are on drugs. They hang out at too many country clubs and have no clue about the real world. They only live in their fantasies which they confuse for reality.


68 posted on 06/30/2007 3:13:35 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: hardback

Hispanics vote Democrat at least 70% of the time.
Every ten new Hispanic voters therefore yields 7 votes for rats and 3 for Republicans.
Ergo, more Hispanics in this country is GOOD for rats and BAD for Republicans.

You would think a paper like the Wall Street Journal could handle basic arithmetic.
Sheesh.


69 posted on 06/30/2007 3:15:32 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Sorry. I’ve had enough. No sale.


70 posted on 06/30/2007 3:16:49 PM PDT by surely_you_jest (I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts. - Will Rogers)
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To: Old Professer
those voters have now heard loud expressions of alarm from the Republican right about their presence in the U.S

Illegals that are voting? Start the deportations with them, after making prison examples of them.

We need to keep in mind that, irrespective of whether illegals are voting, they are preponderantly being counted in census tallies, especially in states that consciously ignore or aren't even allowed to consider their "undocumented" status. That works hand-in-glove for those interested to see their states' electoral votes swell.

HF

71 posted on 06/30/2007 3:18:57 PM PDT by holden
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To: hardback

Californa was damaged because they put a bunch of squishy, spineless moderates in charge.


72 posted on 06/30/2007 3:28:08 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: hardback
Hispanics represent the fastest-growing chunk of the U.S. electorate. Their choices help drive the rising swing states of presidential politics: Colorado, Nevada, Arizona and New Mexico.

I don't know about Colorado, Nevada and Arizona but the Hispanics I live and work among in New Mexico don't support amnesty and have a lot of distrust/dislike for illegal "Mexican nationals".

73 posted on 06/30/2007 3:28:19 PM PDT by jess35
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To: DevSix; PhiKapMom

Whatever the “base” thinks or wants, restricting immigration is generally a losing issue for Republicans. There is a simple reason for this: voters who want a controlled economy have no reason to vote for Republican candidates.


74 posted on 06/30/2007 3:30:17 PM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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To: Retired Chemist

immigration will be for the repubs what iraq was to the rats, voting motivation


75 posted on 06/30/2007 3:30:25 PM PDT by italianquaker ("blue dog democrats", that dog don't hunt)
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76 posted on 06/30/2007 3:33:27 PM PDT by Buzzm1
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To: hardback
The Open Borders shill Wall Street Journal is alarmed by the failure of the amnesty bill. I can't hide my delight to see the Chamber Of Commerce types getting the stuffing pounded out of them. What these corporate fascists wanted was to shift the costs of their doing business with a slave labor force of illegals onto Middle Class America. That America said NO! I don't think they quite get the fallout. I'm all in favor of free enterprise but not if I have to foot the bill for it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

77 posted on 06/30/2007 3:37:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Paul Ross

The WSJ Editorials have gotten pretty bad, but ol’ Rupert M. will sure shake things up and the WSJ roundtable will have a mess o new faces....that is a good thing!


78 posted on 06/30/2007 3:38:53 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Earthdweller
True, but that growth will be a one-time blip unless we add another 20 million to the mix. Get rid of as many illegals as we can, make sure that those here illegally NEVER become citizens even if they stay (and so can't vote), and the demographic issue of the hispanics can be overcome, since they are currently concentrated in democratic locales for the most party. So long as the south, midwest and mountain states continue to become more conservative, we can absorb a short term radicalization caused by low income newcomers in NY and California. New Mexico may also swing Dem. because of hispanics, but Texas has enough Americans to overcome them, as do most other states.

Besides, most 2nd and 3rd generation hispanics, people who came here legally for the most part under the 1965 law, are not radical in the way that newcomers from Jalisco and Guadalajara and who learned about Aztlan in kindergarten, are. Many of them are against amnesty and are great, loyal Americans. Even poor Mexicans coming now illegally would be great Americans--in 3 or 4 generations, and only if we get rid of the "diversity" culture. We can't afford to have 3 or 4 generations of Democrat socialist rule, which is what they would have if given this new base of poor voters to hornswaggle.

79 posted on 06/30/2007 3:40:53 PM PDT by Defiant (Hunter if we can; Thompson if we can't; Romney if we must, Rudy if we wanna lose.)
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To: Logical me

Here are comments by announced Presidential candidates I could readily find — not to say other announced candidates did not make statements, but they were not readily available:

We’ve just received news that the immigration bill that’s been debated in the Senate has been defeated. I think that’s a victory for the people,” Romney told reporters soon after arriving at a private aviation terminal at Pittsburgh International Airport.

“People: 1. Washington politicians: 0.” Mitt Romney

*****

New York City – The Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee released the following statement today regarding the U.S. Senate’s vote on immigration legislation:

“Today a majority in the Senate made clear this bill shortchanged the American people by failing to end illegal immigration and failing to secure our borders. The bill did not deserve to move forward.

“As I have said before, this bill – which I believed was based more on compromise than on principle – failed to do several basic things, including: securing our borders, creating a uniform tamper-proof ID card for all foreign workers and students, establishing a single nationwide database of foreigners, and mandating the full implementation of a biometric ‘check in-check out’ system.

“The legislation was a hodgepodge at best, and I believe it would have ultimately made our country less secure.

“I urge the President to use the authority and funds at his disposal to do everything possible to end illegal immigration and secure our borders.” Rudy Guiliani

*****

La Mesa, CA. -By a vote of 46 to 53, the U.S. Senate voted today not to proceed with debate on legislation providing amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants presently living in the United States. Following the Senate’s vote, Presidential Candidate and U.S. Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) made the following statement:

“From the very beginning of the immigration debate, the American people were clear in their strong opposition to granting amnesty to more than 12 million illegal immigrants. While this flawed piece of legislation should never have been considered in the first place, I commend my colleagues in the Senate who positioned themselves with the American people and rejected this amnesty bill.

“The idea that amnesty must be accepted in order to achieve secure and enforceable borders is absurd. The effort to provide citizenship benefits to millions of illegal immigrants failed — not once, but twice. It is time that we abandon the concept of rewarding those who have broken our laws and take action to secure our borders and enforce existing immigration laws. This is what the American people have been demanding and this is what they deserve.

“Executing one existing law in particular, the Secure Fence Act, would go a long way to bringing a greater element of security to our Southern land border. By constructing double-layered security fencing across the major smuggling corridors on the U.S.-Mexico border, as required by the Secure Fence Act, we will have taken a significant step towards achieving a border that is enforceable and no longer a conduit for illegal activity.” Duncan Hunter

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Thank you!

Thank you for your phone calls, your emails, your contributions and everything you did to help “we the people” kill the Bush-Kennedy-McCain amnesty bill in the Senate yesterday.

This time, the system worked. The American people made their voices heard and 53 Senators did the right thing, standing up to the White House, the Hispanic Lobby, and the corporate special interests.

Our Senate victory is not only a victory for America -— it is a huge victory for our campaign!

The American people have said “no” to amnesty.....and now they need a president who stands foursquare with them, not one who will sell out once they get elected.

I’m that candidate! And our campaign is the vehicle to ensure that amnesty NEVER happens! ... Tom Tancredo


80 posted on 06/30/2007 3:41:03 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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