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FRED OR DUNCAN
N/A ^ | 26 June 2007 | NAPSCOORDINATOR

Posted on 06/26/2007 1:00:05 PM PDT by napscoordinator

A discussion thread about Fred vs Duncan


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: conservative; duncanhunter; election; electionpresident; familyvalues; fredthompson; morals; neither
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To: Columbine
Yes, I know. It’s wrong that charisma is a criteria but it is.

It is but I think if Duncan was given a chance to speak at debates and other areas, he would give us more more charismatic discussions.

81 posted on 06/26/2007 1:54:47 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Petronski; cyborg

Absolutely!

BTW, how’s the wifey-poo? Haven’t seen her around much.


82 posted on 06/26/2007 1:55:50 PM PDT by RockinRight (Fear the Fred.)
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To: familyop

Undecided, but leaning toward Thompson. I am concerned about his thin record, but with Reagan we only had his speeches and his tenure as California governor. Rhetorical skills are essential for a conservative president to be successful. Given the “squishy middle”, conservative policy has to be sold. Even when he is right, GWB is rhetorically challenged. He has been diminished as President because of it. Whatever his flaws, Fred is a communicator. Also, he is better by far than any possible Democrat candidate.


83 posted on 06/26/2007 1:56:54 PM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: Jim Robinson
No one from either side should flame the other. Support your man. Support conservatism. Do not run down our conservative candidates. May the best conservative win.

Amen!!!!!

84 posted on 06/26/2007 1:57:06 PM PDT by Texas Mom (Two places you're always welcome - Church and Grandma's house.)
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To: familyop

Hunter’s history isn’t as good as it has been touted, either. It’s not “BAD” in any way, but he’s not the stellar perfect Congresscritter he is portrayed to be.


85 posted on 06/26/2007 1:59:50 PM PDT by RockinRight (Fear the Fred.)
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To: napscoordinator
FRED or DUNCAN?
Bullshit Scarlett!
Both!!
(Seriously, Duncan is better as the Veep or SecHomelandSec.)
Pete Pace as SecDef, Newt as SecState, Victoria Toenseng as AG, Thomas Sowell as SecTreas(Herman Cain), <<I am holding off on Interior, Energy,labor, etc.
they are not that important right away.>>
86 posted on 06/26/2007 1:59:54 PM PDT by Gideon T. Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American. PALESTINIANS: A proud history of mindless violence since 1964.)
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To: napscoordinator
It is but I think if Duncan was given a chance to speak at debates and other areas, he would give us more more charismatic discussions.

Now we're getting into "if turnips were horses, beggars would ride" territory.

I just don't think he's going anywhere but I would be happy to be wrong.

87 posted on 06/26/2007 2:02:34 PM PDT by Columbine
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To: napscoordinator

Fred is weaker than Hunter on the issues I care most about, but he’s still better than any of the other options. I’m for Hunter as long as he’s in the race. If Fred gets the nomination I’ll gladly vote for him in the general election—can’t say that about the other Republican candidates(I may have vote for one of them in the general but I won’t be particularly happy about it.)


88 posted on 06/26/2007 2:09:55 PM PDT by FreedomForce (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: napscoordinator

Fred is weaker than Hunter on the issues I care most about, but he’s still better than any of the other options. I’m for Hunter as long as he’s in the race. If Fred gets the nomination I’ll gladly vote for him in the general election—can’t say that about the other Republican candidates(I may have to vote for one of them in the general but I won’t be particularly happy about it.)


89 posted on 06/26/2007 2:10:09 PM PDT by FreedomForce (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: scott7278

Whenever I talk to my friends about candidates I talk about Duncan first, always. However, I do believe Fred is destined for the nom. Duncan would make a great secretary of defense!


90 posted on 06/26/2007 2:24:00 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: RockinRight; familyop
Hunter’s history isn’t as good as it has been touted, either. It’s not “BAD” in any way, but he’s not the stellar perfect Congresscritter he is portrayed to be.

That's been my point, all along. I like Hunter, but I just don't like him quite as much as I like Fred. I think the case for Hunter is consistently overstated, and whenever someone puts up information suggesting that Hunter's got some problems, the Duncanists are all over them like white on rice, suggesting that you're just not really patriotic or that you're a RINO if you don't like their candidate.

The points used to tout Duncan Hunter don't hold the stellar appeal for me that Duncanistas seem to think they should. I'm not particularly inclined to give a candidate special preference just because they were in the military - so his military service isn't a selling point. I don't believe that free trade is a secret plan to sell us out to the New World Order, so reflexive voting against Latin American free trade agreements, even with capitalistic allies like Chile, doesn't put Hunter across the line either. Hunter is definitely not a small-government superhero, either, if his record in the Congress of voting for porkbarrel expenditures (i.e. NON-military related) is any indication. If Hunter's political experience were applied to any other candidate, I suspect the Duncanistas would attack that candidate for being a career politician whose become part of the problem, rather than part of the solution - but since it's Duncan, it's okay to sit in Congress for 26 years on the taxpayers' tab.

So yes, Duncan Hunter is a GOOD candidate. He's got definite conservative credentials, and I find him to be an appealing candidate. But, he's got his problems too, and he's not the Second Coming like a lot of folks on here sound like they want him to be.

91 posted on 06/26/2007 2:24:44 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Thompson is Duncan Hunter without the training wheels)
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To: Gideon T. Reader

“Victoria Toenseng as AG”
How about on the SCOTUS?


92 posted on 06/26/2007 2:25:02 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: napscoordinator
Thompson/Hunter would be the strongest ticket possible IMO.

Something I haven’t seen anybody talk about is...what is the possibility of Hunter delivering California wherever he is?

93 posted on 06/26/2007 2:28:17 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Vision

On the other thread, A Hunter fan is excited that Hunter is polling at 11% [in California only—he’s @ 2% nationwide, I believe]. I would think he’d have to get considerably above 11% to “deliver” the state.


94 posted on 06/26/2007 2:34:22 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08)
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To: Clara Lou

That’s kind of what I was thinking.


95 posted on 06/26/2007 2:41:56 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Vision

Well, there’s enough time. The Hunter campaign better get busy, though.


96 posted on 06/26/2007 2:45:37 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08)
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To: Clara Lou
That’s his problem. When the second primary debate came around there was discussion that this is when he needed to take control and shine...but it was only more of the same-albeit good stuff.

He seems to lack the charisma or energy of a front runner. But after 8 years he should be polished enough to take the reins.

97 posted on 06/26/2007 3:01:48 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: The Blitherer; Politicalmom; John Valentine; papasmurf; prairiebreeze; NYC Republican; ...
familyop (I) wrote:
"Thompson's fans here have been calling for censorship of the evidence for some time"

The Blitherer (you) replied, asking for evidence:
"'They' have? Who? When?"

Here are only a few of the comments made toward censoring negative factual evidence about Thompson. There were many more over the past few weeks. Thanks for asking. You gave me a good idea.

Politicalmom wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1856613/posts?page=18#18

"I have told you repeatedly not to post to me. From now on I push abuse."

John Valentine wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1856322/posts?page=22#22">

"Give it a rest. You got no tread on your tires."

papasmurf wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1854395/posts?page=50#50

"You darken the good name of Duncan Hunter, troll. "

papasmurf wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1854395/posts?page=59#59

"Run along and troll on Dr Paul or Mcmaniac threads, you'll be the most sane one there."

prairiebreeze wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1854395/posts?page=127#127

"troll bait"

NYC Republican wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1854395/posts?page=139#139

"Please, please PLEASE stop with the Duncan Hunter for President posts."

PlainOleAmerican wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1854395/posts?page=155#155

"Those who lie about or attack without cause St. Fred, are trolls..."
98 posted on 06/26/2007 3:08:43 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: familyop

I’m sorry, I see no calls for censorship here. You need to distinguish between people asking you to give it a rest and people forcing you to give it a rest.


99 posted on 06/26/2007 3:11:23 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: pissant
Ping!
100 posted on 06/26/2007 3:15:04 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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