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It's Not Enough to Be 'Wanted'
OpinionJournal.com ^ | June 19, 2007 | John R. Lott Jr.

Posted on 06/18/2007 9:27:39 PM PDT by gpapa

The abortion debate usually centers on the morality of the act itself. But liberalizing abortion rules from 1969 to 1973 ignited vast social changes in America. With the perennial political debate over abortion again consuming the presidential campaign and the Supreme Court, it might be time to evaluate what Roe v. Wade has meant in practical terms.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; illegitimacy; johnlott; marriage; outofwedlockbirths; prolife
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1 posted on 06/18/2007 9:27:42 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: gpapa

“Ev’ry chile a planned and wanted chile”


2 posted on 06/18/2007 9:58:50 PM PDT by Montanabound
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To: gpapa
it might be time to evaluate what Roe v. Wade has meant in practical terms.

It's meant the wholesale slaughter of millions of innocent children.

It means the cold blooded murder of one baby at a time, millions and millions of times over...
3 posted on 06/18/2007 10:03:31 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

...by state-licensed medical doctors, who supposedly take the Hippocratic Oath, supported by public funds given to Planned Parenthood and other ‘family planning’ groups.

The only place where women can pay to legally murder one of her family members. (I state it this way because of the Liberal Truth that “It is HER body, HER choice.)


4 posted on 06/18/2007 10:17:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man
(I state it this way because of the Liberal Truth that “It is HER body, HER choice.)

If it's all about HER body, why can't she EMPOWER herself and keep HER damned knees together so she doesn't have to murder HER baby?

What is it going to be? Strong woman or soulless butcher?
5 posted on 06/18/2007 10:32:42 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: gpapa; MountainFlower; cpforlife.org; wagglebee; NYer; EternalVigilance; Coleus; Vision; ...

New pro-life slogan that came to my mind today:

“Don’t Throw The Baby Out With The BIRTHWater”


6 posted on 06/18/2007 10:35:31 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: gpapa
Abortion will go away quicker when abortionists find their amnesty. Pro-abortionists correctly fear being hunted down as murderers. They will spend their wealth fanatically to keep themselves away from courts and prisons.

The 2nd victims of abortion, the surviving mothers, will have an easier time reconciling because it’s usually been men who’ve supported, coerced, and demanded abortion—not women.

7 posted on 06/18/2007 11:41:55 PM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" for the Unborn Child)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

If it’s all about HER body, why can’t she EMPOWER herself and keep HER damned knees together so she doesn’t have to murder HER baby?


WORTHY REPEATING.

And even so, the father is all too often given a pass when he is best suited to be the provider and protector of both mother and baby—but selfishly vanishes.


8 posted on 06/18/2007 11:50:15 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
“It is HER body, HER choice.

Which means that she's expecting us to ignore murder just because it's an inside job. Absurd.
9 posted on 06/19/2007 12:32:22 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's like people who hate corn bread and hate anchovies, but love cornchovie bread.)
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To: Montanabound
“Ev’ry chile a planned and wanted chile”

Hi, welcome to FR, or welcome back.

Can you explain what you mean by this comment?

10 posted on 06/19/2007 3:47:42 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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To: gpapa
Many men, feeling tricked into unwanted fatherhood, will likely wash their hands of the affair altogether, thinking, "I never wanted a baby. It's her choice, so let her raise the baby herself." What is expected of men in this position has changed dramatically in the last four decades. The evidence shows that the greater availability of abortion largely ended "shotgun" marriages, where men felt obligated to marrying the woman.

Legal abortion has made pregnancy exclusively a woman's problem and thereby led to widespread single parenting. This is probably the worst thing that happened to America (and many other places) in the wake of the various "revolutions" of the 1960s.

11 posted on 06/19/2007 4:56:10 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...

Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

12 posted on 06/19/2007 6:27:36 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Thanks for the ping!


13 posted on 06/19/2007 7:03:12 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Secret Agent Man

There’s the rub.

The child has a completely different DNA, composed from both the mother and father. It’s not her choice. It’s at least his choice as well and the child is a person who should be represented.

Meanwhile, sex-ed and condoms are flying in our elementary schools.

No responsibility... indeed.


14 posted on 06/19/2007 7:12:27 AM PDT by AliVeritas (America, love it or leave it.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I think that comment is quoting Jocelyn Elders, who was given to us by the Clintons. Didn’t she also say something about “safer bullets”?


15 posted on 06/19/2007 7:57:24 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg; The Spirit Of Allegiance; madprof98; gpapa

Now that people are waking up to the reality that abortion is not a ‘single issue’ nor is it confined to arguments of morality and religion but rather demographics and entitlements, the next tie-in is to examine causes of abortion decisions.

Abortion decisions fit mostly into four categories based on:

Age - too old, too young
Health - women and fetus, mental, trauma such as rape
Economics - fear of poverty, no family/society support
Political - belief in overpopulation, hatred of humanity

Whether these categories are thought to be legitimate, moral, reasonable and so on is another debate.

What is important to the subject of this thread is the economics category which forms the bulk of abortion decisions.

And the economics basis of an abortion decision is directly related to the high taxation policies of Caucasian cultures.

High taxation has forced mothers out of the home and into the workplace.

Present levels of taxation were present in history only in times of war. Today’s levels existed throughout the 1980s and 1990s when the nation was not at war.

Look at a quick sum of US tax levels based on moderate incomes:

Income tax 16%
FICA (both sides) 12.4%
Medicare 2.4%
Embedded product taxes 23%

Typical State taxes:

Sales tax 6%
Property tax 4%

I have not included state income tax or registration taxes.

The total tax load on a moderate income couple is about 60%.
And it is projected to get much worse. Since 1996 the CBO has projected a 85% tax load. The government individuals that collect the data and crunch the numbers know that the projected estimates are accurate and they know personally that it cannot be achieved.

The Federal Reserve creates money from nothing and causes inflation. They have been monitoring inflation to assess the impact of the money creation activity or better known as monetary policy.

Inflation is a tax.

The government and the Federal Reserve (which is not federal in any sense) are experimenting with flooding markets with money (or as they call it liquidity) without causing rampant inflation in food and necessities. They do this because the alternative is to raise taxes.

So from a government point of view:

1. Raise taxes and risk a revolt or a spate of non-compliance
2. Create money and dilute existing value of dollars (inflation tax). For example pay social security recipients in borrowed (created) dollars or pay any government bill in borrowed (created) dollars, created by the Federal Reserve. Write an IOU to the next generation while watching where prices rise.

And prices have risen, especially in housing.

So what we recognize is that our excessive taxation has rendered the American population stressed to the point that many American mothers simply cannot get the comforting assurance needed to bring children into the world.

The result is we have many jobs and too few workers, which many are convinced reflects a great economy. And as people are living longer, we have an aging population.

France’s tax policies are actually more sympathethic although we have been conditioned to think they are highly taxed, the fact is we as Americans are taxed more in total. Our taxes are hidden in many strata and in many categories.

France’s tax policy is sympathetic to families, so much so that the birthrate in France is healthy.

I am not arguing that life in France in great, I am just pointing out to ourselves that we should not criticize them for high taxes when we ourselves have higher taxes in total, and that they are not experiencing an age demographic crisis as we are because their tax policies support familes.

Through major tax reform such as the FairTax (http://www.fairtax.org) we can establish a tax structure that reassures both men and women about having families because they will have a choice to save and a better framework in which to prosper.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1852525/posts?page=13#13


16 posted on 06/19/2007 8:19:34 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
"Can you explain what you mean by this comment?"

It's a quote from Joycelyn Elders which Rush used make fun of back in the Bubba era.

17 posted on 06/19/2007 8:22:35 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: AliVeritas

I think it’s pretty interesting that a number of stories have broken out that show abstinence education really does work better than ‘here’s how to do it if you want to’ and ‘kids are just gonna do it so give ‘em a Planned Parenthood card and the Karma Sutra’ sex education.


18 posted on 06/19/2007 11:57:14 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: gpapa
Sexual Suicide and Naked Nomads bump
19 posted on 06/19/2007 2:30:46 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

::grin:: you have a way with words! are you in marketing?!


20 posted on 06/19/2007 2:58:55 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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