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The J.F.K. Airport Bomb Plot (NY Times defends their page A30 story placement)
The New York Times ^ | June 4, 2007 | Suzanne Daley

Posted on 06/07/2007 5:56:59 AM PDT by FreedomPoster

The J.F.K. Airport Bomb Plot

Q. I live in California and was astounded yesterday to look at my print edition of The Times for the article on the J.F.K. bomb plot and to find it back on page A30!

What has happened with the news judgment of your colleagues? A terrorist plot that could have badly damaged the entire economy of the nation, including those of us who live in the Bay Area, and it's relegated to the level of bridge club reports. You might wish to suggest to your editors that your readers do not live in a vacuum, that we do have alternative sources for news and they only make The Times look foolish with such ineptitude. No wonder your circulation and advertising are falling; your editors are turning a once-honored newspaper into a dinosaur in the electronic age.

-- Richard Godfrey, San Francisco . . . A. Here's the basic thinking on the J.F.K. story: In the years since 9/11, there have been quite a few interrupted terrorist plots. It now seems possible to exercise some judgment about their gravity. Not all plots are the same. In this case, law enforcement officials said that J.F.K. was never in immediate danger. The plotters had yet to lay out plans. They had no financing. Nor did they have any explosives. It is with all that in mind, that the editors in charge this weekend did not put this story on the front page.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: caribbean; jfkplot; liberals; mediabias; msm; newdorktimes; newyorktimes; nytimes
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The writer is the NY Times' national editor, answering a number of reader questions.

Because the NY Times already knew everything there was to know about this plot, very quickly, they determined it wasn't important.

1 posted on 06/07/2007 5:57:04 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: FreedomPoster

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2 posted on 06/07/2007 6:02:05 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred D. Thompson for POTUS!)
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Stockholders of NYT must be so proud.


3 posted on 06/07/2007 6:02:26 AM PDT by sono (Note to W: Pardon Scooter NOW!)
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The fact that they feel it necessary to defend the placement of the article shows me they know they screwed up.


4 posted on 06/07/2007 6:03:15 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Run, Fred run! I will send my donation as soon as you announce.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Post #2 is on the wrong thread. It’s what happens when I have two windows open. ~sigh~
Sorry.


5 posted on 06/07/2007 6:03:47 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred D. Thompson for POTUS!)
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No wonder the Old Grey Lady is Dead.... ignorant editors, gutless reporters, and none of them in touch with society.


6 posted on 06/07/2007 6:04:53 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Clara Lou

Hey, hey now. No thread hijacking.


7 posted on 06/07/2007 6:05:01 AM PDT by 300magnum (God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it. D.Webster)
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“In truth, the decision was widely debated even within this newsroom. At the front page meeting this morning, we took an informal poll... ”

“In truth... ” don't make me puke!

8 posted on 06/07/2007 6:05:58 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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I don’t know what the big deal is about this. Anyone who reads the NY Times for their news is probably a loser anyway — and probably has no interest in “news,” either.


9 posted on 06/07/2007 6:07:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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Lesson: If you want to know what's going on, don't read the New York Times.
10 posted on 06/07/2007 6:08:07 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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To: AlaskaErik
they know they screwed up.

And they are fully prepared to do so again.

11 posted on 06/07/2007 6:10:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: Clara Lou

What does your post have to do with the NYT’s coverage (or lack of) of the JFK airport plot?


12 posted on 06/07/2007 6:12:08 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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(In truth, the decision was widely debated even within this newsroom.)

That’s obvious BS. If the decision was so close, why didn’t they put the story in A2 instead of deep within the paper? Actions speak louder than words: they wanted to burry the story pure and simple.


13 posted on 06/07/2007 6:12:25 AM PDT by winner3000
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Its a no brainer why it made page 30. The story fell on the same day Paris Hilton was sent to jail. sarc...


14 posted on 06/07/2007 6:15:32 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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The plotters had yet to lay out plans. They had no financing. Nor did they have any explosives.

Within a day the complaint with much of the information had been released to the public. They probably had it the same day and reviewed it. One of the guys was homeless. So yes, the NYT was probably correct in this situation. It was news, but then again it wasn't really news was it? It was not plausible and they didn't even have the means to carry it out.

I expect after the ridiculous pizza boy terrorist 'threat', they're more cautious about putting inflammatory headlines on the front page

15 posted on 06/07/2007 6:17:58 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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The defense of the the story placement would have been adequate if it had been placed in a prominent place somewhere in pages A2-4 with a little lead in the box on page A-1 that points to important stories not starting on A-1. Even then it would have been poor editorial judgement, not blameworthy, just poor.

A30 was a deliberate attempt to bury it.


16 posted on 06/07/2007 6:20:57 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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The Times is a fundamentally dishonest newspaper whose editors are committed to the cause of harassing, embarrassing, and denigrating the present Administration, regardless of news judgment. Does anyone doubt that if the present plotters had in time obtained financing and explosives and executed their plans, the Times would have devoted a scathing 12-part series to the failure of the Bush Administration to stop it?
17 posted on 06/07/2007 6:29:07 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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> ...the NYT was probably correct in this situation. It was news, but then again it wasn't really news was it? It was not plausible and they didn't even have the means to carry it out.

Sure, but you're being logical. That doesn't stop folks here from having a good time jumping up and down about it.

I don't read the NYT, so I don't know the answer to this, but here's a question: was page A30 the -last- page of the A-section (i.e. on the back) that day? If so, it's the next-most read page, after the front page...

18 posted on 06/07/2007 6:29:44 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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Yes, and of course we ALL know that Atta and his merry band were just a bunch of drunks at a stripper bar on 9/10/2001. Dupes and dufuses, yes, some were, but look what they did. NOT apprehending this bunch would have been very foolish, and to insist it isn’t really “news” is even more so.


19 posted on 06/07/2007 6:41:45 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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I don't remember what page this was on in the Austin Un American Non Statesman, but I am ready to cancel my subscription. They ran the William Jefferson (D) Lousiana, on page A-9 or A-11.

The same day, they had a cartoon by Ben Uber-Liberal Sergeant, that had the devil going into the VP's quarters. That was his contribution to the article about the President and VP to keep the visitor registers secret.

20 posted on 06/07/2007 6:46:19 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns don't kill people. None of my guns ever left the house at night and killed anyone.)
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