Islamic deja vu (Dems repeat their Vietnam betrayal in Iraq/Iran)

The Washington Times ^ | May 23, 2007 | Arnaud de Borchgrave

[2ndDivisionVet]

Muslim peoples excel at expelling imperial powers by terror and guerrilla war. So wrote Patrick J. Buchanan six months before Operation Iraqi Freedom. "They drove the Brits out of Palestine and Aden, the French out of Algeria, the Russians out of Afghanistan, the Americans out of Somalia and Beirut, the Israelis out of Lebanon," he reminded us.

Lacking institutional memory, Congress is blissfully unaware the history now being written on Capitol Hill will add yet another chapter -- "they also drove the Americans out of Iraq." And the scenario is eerily reminiscent of how Congress ensured a U.S. defeat in Vietnam when lawmakers, in their infinite wisdom, decided to sever any further military assistance to our Vietnamese allies.

Betrayed by Congress, the South Vietnamese quickly understood there was no point in further resistance. In Hanoi, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap had to improvise a general offensive in 1975 to take Saigon, which he reckoned (in his memoirs) was an opportunity at least two years away.

Similarly, Gen. Giap, who once said the U.S. could not be defeated militarily, conceded the 1968 Tet Offensive was an unmitigated disaster for Hanoi. And he was astonished to see Walter Cronkite, America's most trusted newsman, had declared Tet a decisive defeat for the U.S. Most of the Saigon-based press corps followed "Uncle Walter's" lead.

Gen. Giap defeated the French empire -- in 1954 at Dienbienphu. But America's defeat was on the home front and in the halls of Congress. Hanoi achieved final victory with a 2,500-year-old blueprint for victory -- Sun Tzu's "The Art of War." The template was undermining home front morale. In Hanoi in September 1972, this reporter met two French communists who bragged about organizing antiwar demonstrations in the United States.

[2ndDivisionVet]

A trifle long but worth reading. Notice that the communist North Vietnamese organized antiwar demonstrations back then? Who is doing the same now, do you think?

[TeenagedConservative]

And Vietnam is now a valued Westernized trading partner.

The longer we continue to agitate civil war in Iraq, the messier it will be when we inevitable are forced to leave.

[REDWOOD99]

“The longer we continue to agitate civil war in Iraq, the messier it will be when we inevitable are forced to leave.”

Uh, what?

[TeenagedConservative]

That “e” should be a “y,” sorry.

We are causing Iraq’s civil war by promoting instability. The longer we continue to do this, the more time and propaganda our enemies have to recruit. The militias will become more and more powerful and entrenched in their positions of respective power, and this will eventually divide Iraq into three portions. The longer we wait before leaving, the bloodier the inevitable struggle from Iraq will be.

[Graybeard58]

The longer we continue to agitate civil war in Iraq, the messier it will be when we inevitable are forced to leave.

Are you on the right web site?

[TeenagedConservative]

Isolationism and a humble foreign policy used to be conservative.

[XR7]

The longer we continue to agitate civil war in Iraq...

What kind of twisted leftist/Islamo propaganda have you been feeding on?

[4rcane]

iraq civil war is now US fault?! rofl. Next time you have an argument with your teacher, remember the argument is not between yourself and the teacher. Its Bush’s fault that you are having this argument.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Here you go:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

Have fun!!

[fortheDeclaration]

So wrote Patrick J. Buchanan six months before Operation Iraqi Freedom

Spokesman for defeatist.

No one drove America from any battlefield.

Political decisions were made, not military ones.

[Covenantor]

"And Vietnam is now a valued Westernized trading partner"

Maybe by you. Engage in some home schooling and read about the misery the Vietnamese Communists inflicted on their people and then get back to us.

Hint: Ask yourself why oppressed peoples vote with their feet when they can.

[REDWOOD99]

The misspelling wasn’t the problem, it was your logic. Do you honestly believe that Iraq will not be a worse bloodbath if we leave now? Do you really believe that an internal security force, trained by OUR military, is NOT the only answer to stability in Iraq? Do you really believe that a Sunni/Shia/Kurd split ala “Plugs” Biden is an inevitability? Hence my, “Uh,what?”

[ScaniaBoy]

"They [the Muslims] drove the Brits out of Palestine......"

Say what?????

Muhammed el-Begin and Reza al-Shamir among others one presumes.....

[opticoax]

Similarly, Gen. Giap, who once said the U.S. could not be defeated militarily, conceded the 1968 Tet Offensive was an unmitigated disaster for Hanoi. And he was astonished to see Walter Cronkite, America's most trusted newsman, had declared Tet a decisive defeat for the U.S. Most of the Saigon-based press corps followed "Uncle Walter's" lead.

The most informative part of the article. What Cronkite owes to the US soldiers and the Vietnamese victims of Communism is an exceptionally long stay in Purgatory.

The only thing worse than a useful idiot is an old useful idiot.

Whenever I hear that arrogant doddering Pr**k giving his asinine opinions on TV, I want to vomit.

[REDWOOD99]

I really hope you are not saying that there is no connection between anti-war activists and communists. You’re new here. Maybe you don’t remember Jane Fonda.

[2ndDivisionVet]

God, I love troll flypaper...it works like a charm!!
For everyone else, I will post the following proof that communists and jihadists are behind the current antiwar demonstrations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.N.S.W.E.R.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6147

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

There is a book (now available in paperback ):

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Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left
(Hardcover)
by David Horowitz

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And reviews:

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Editorial Reviews

Rich Lowry, Editor National Review

David Horowitz is synonymous with pyrotechnics. A historian and polemicist of the first order, he is paid the ultimate compliment --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

Davis Hanson, Author, Ripples of Battle

An original look at those who want us to fail in the Middle East, both at home and abroad. The --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

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See all Editorial Reviews

Fascinating Analysis of Leftist Goals, August 13, 2006

Reviewer: N. Sincerity - See all my reviews

A former 1960s radical, Horowitz is well-acquainted with the Leftist mindset. In this book, he strives to explain the modern alliance between left wing progressivists and radical Islamofascists. He argues that this alliance is based on a common desire to destroy Western capitalism. Leftist sympathy with Islamofascist ideas makes no sense from an intellectual point of view, given that countries ruled by radical Islamists are among the most racist, sexist, theocratic states in the world today. However, Leftists have recognized that they can benefit politically from destructive terrorist attacks on the Western world. A West under attack can be made to turn on its leaders in fear and desperation (as they did in Spain after the Madrid train bombings). Only once people reject current government structures can the Left execute its anti-capitalist revolution and build a new reality that mirrors the Leftist view of utopia.

The complete and utter idealogical hypocrisy of the Islamofascist-Leftist alliance is distressing, but as Horowitz reminds us,

Leftists radicals truly believe the ends justify the means.

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[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

And you might spend some time on this thread:

Report says Iraq problems were expected

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

See post #18 also...for support!