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Michael Bloomberg's War on Guns
NewsMax.com ^ | May 23, 2007 | Lowell Ponte

Posted on 05/23/2007 10:24:35 AM PDT by neverdem

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is leading a war on guns, and it may be just the first salvo in his drive to become president.

Many Americans may recognize Mayor Bloomberg for his company - Bloomberg L.P.

As the Republican mayor of New York City, he spent an astonishing $160 million to get elected in 2001 and re-elected in 2005.

Today, media entrepreneur Bloomberg is the 44th richest person in the United States and 142nd wealthiest person in the world, according to Forbes magazine, which in 2007 estimated his net worth at $5.5 billion. Fortune magazine last April calculated that his share of Bloomberg LP is worth $13 billion.

Bloomberg has already "set aside" $1 billion for an independent 2008 presidential campaign, reported the Washington Times last May.

Mayor Bloomberg might be a centrist in liberal New York City, say critics, but to most Americans his views are extreme, as evidenced by his no-holds-barred war against guns.

"Our most urgent challenge is ending the threat of guns and the violence they do….," re-elected Mayor Bloomberg declared in his January 1, 2006, Inaugural address. "Now we have a duty…one that rises above all partisan politics, and one we will pursue relentlessly: And that is to rid our streets of guns, and punish all those who possess and traffic in these instruments of death."

Bloomberg's determination to "punish all those who possess" firearms does not easily square with the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment right of citizens "to keep and bear arms."

On April 25, 2006, Bloomberg hosted a gathering of 15 mayors to launch a new group called Mayors Against Illegal Guns. One year later this coalition, co-chaired by Bloomberg, had "over 210 mayors from more than 40 states."

In early 2006 Bloomberg hired private investigators to carry out undercover sting operations at 45 gun stores in Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Virginia. Firearms involved in New York City crimes had at some point been sold in these stores.

In a typical Bloomberg sting, a man and woman entered a gun store. The man agreed to buy a gun, then asked the woman to sign government forms. The aim was to simulate "straw purchases," illegal acts in which one person who can pass a government background check signs government documents to purchase a firearm for someone else ineligible to buy a gun because of a criminal or mental health record.

Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, has held raffles to raise legal defense money for two stores targeted by Bloomberg's sting and lawsuits.

"The State of Virginia responded to Mayor Bloomberg by enacting a new law," Van Cleave told NewsMax. "So starting in July 2007, anyone who does what Bloomberg's agents did will be committing a felony. The U.S. Justice Department declined to file criminal charges against any of the firearms dealers stung by Bloomberg, but it has advised Bloomberg's office that it could face "potential legal liabilities" if such sting operations continue.

"While Mayor Bloomberg engaged in secret vigilante-type actions trying to entrap clerks in gun stores," said Van Cleave, "he never informed local, state or federal law enforcement about what he would be doing." Bloomberg's private sting operations in legal jurisdictions far from New York City may, according to one report, have "compromised" at least four criminal investigations by law enforcement agencies and put an additional 14 local, state or federal criminal cases "at risk."

"Mayor Bloomberg wants access to the ATF's [the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives] ‘trace data' for guns used in crimes, data that by federal law is available only for legitimate on-going criminal investigations by law enforcement," the founder of the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) Alan Gottlieb told NewsMax.

"This federal statute that Bloomberg and his cronies in Mayors Against Illegal Guns want to overturn," said Gottlieb, "is essential to protecting information that if leaked could tip off criminals to an undercover federal investigation, or could endanger the life of an undercover officer.

"Bloomberg wants access to that information solely for the purpose of mounting harassment lawsuits against law-abiding businesses," said Gottlieb. "It's got nothing to do with fighting crime, and a lot to do with feeding his own desire for self-aggrandizement."

"Mayor Bloomberg has repeatedly conspired to violate federal firearms laws," the Executive Director of Gun Owners of America (GOA) Larry Pratt told NewsMax. "He sent private investigators to other states using false identifications. If you or I did this, we'd have the book thrown at us," Pratt said, "so why isn't Mayor Bloomberg on trial or in jail for what he's done?"

"I see Bloomberg as a politician," said Van Cleave. "He doesn't know how to deal with the criminal element. He finds it easier not to blame criminals or his own shortcomings for crime in his city. He'd rather blame New York City crime on a store clerk several states away in Virginia – or blame the gun."

"It's no surprise to us that Mayor Bloomberg has been harshly criticized by the U.S. Justice Department for his vigilante sting operations against firearms dealers outside New York," a spokesperson for the National Rifle Association (NRA) Ashley Varner told NewsMax.

"The National Rifle Association is on the side of the Fraternal Order of Police, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and the Department of Justice," said Varner. "We are against politicians who want to dig into the pockets of gun manufacturers and retailers."

Thusfar, Bloomberg's sting operations, and his lawsuits threatening to hold small firearms stores liable for millions of dollars of damages purportedly caused by guns they sold, have driven two stores out of business. More than a dozen signed agreements that, in effect, put them under Bloomberg's political supervision.

Bloomberg's hatred of firearms has twisted roots.

"When I was 15 or so, I had a .22-caliber rifle," he told The New York Times in 2006. "Part of my hearing's gone because of it."

In September 2003, as the U.S. Senate was debating legislation to immunize gunmakers, distributors and vendors against lawsuits, Bloomberg said: "It's exactly the same thing as taking away liability from [illicit] drug dealers…. We don't do that, and guns are exactly the same thing."

Bloomberg hates tobacco smoke as much as gunsmoke. In 2003 he gained new legal restrictions to prohibit tobacco smoking in all New York City workplaces, including restaurants, bars and offices not open to the public where all employees are smokers.

He tried to ram into law a "silent night" ordinance that would have given police the power to ticket anyone who talked too loudly. And months ago Mayor Bloomberg pushed through a law making New York City the first city to prohibit restaurants from cooking with or serving trans-fats.

Mayor Bloomberg, say his critics, is a "nanny statist," a self-righteous elitist who arrogantly uses government to impose his values onto everybody else's life for what he sees as their own good.

"If Mayor Bloomberg truly thinks guns are unnecessary and evil, he ought to lead by example," GOA's Pratt sardonically told NewsMax. "He should disarm his gun-toting, taxpayer-paid bodyguards, and he should announce that if elected President he will permit no firearms to be carried by the Secret Service agents who protect him."


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1 posted on 05/23/2007 10:24:36 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Of all the candidates, I give Bloomberg the award for “biggest pretender.” I doubt that he’d get anyone else to vote for him, except maybe his family.


2 posted on 05/23/2007 10:29:39 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: neverdem

With all the things this guy dislikes, IMHO he is a sick, twisted, egomaniac with both power and money that should be feared by all......


3 posted on 05/23/2007 10:33:45 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: neverdem
"When I was 15 or so, I had a .22-caliber rifle," he told The New York Times in 2006. "Part of my hearing's gone because of it."

Lying sob. .22s don't even slightly ring the ears.

For sure, they're far quieter than the Rolling Stones concert Blommy attended a few years back -- the one where he tried to have Keith Richards arrested from smoking a (tobacco) cigarette onstage. (It failed -- the cops knew a riot would ensue and disregarded the mayor's insane order).

4 posted on 05/23/2007 10:42:37 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
the one where he tried to have Keith Richards arrested from smoking a (tobacco) cigarette onstage. (It failed -- the cops knew a riot would ensue and disregarded the mayor's insane order).

Thats new to me. I'm glad the officers excercised some good judgment on that. Bloomberg has some serious mental health issues thats for sure. Thanks for the Stones concert story. Interesting.

5 posted on 05/23/2007 10:53:05 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Actually, .22LRs are some of the most dangerous because of the high-frequency noise. Many people disregard it and end up with hearing loss in the upper regions.

This is very similar to what happens with industrial milling machines. Often, it’s the noises that you’re not “hearing” that are the worst.

But, Bloomie’s still a douchebag, deaf or not ;)


6 posted on 05/23/2007 10:53:43 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

Problem was the rifle was pointed in the wrong direction.


7 posted on 05/23/2007 10:55:55 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: neverdem
When I was 15 or so, I had a .22-caliber rifle," he told The New York Times in 2006. "Part of my hearing's gone because of it."

Right, sure. A ladyfinger firecracker is louder than a .22 rifle.

8 posted on 05/23/2007 10:58:24 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: neverdem
1st thing first.

He is not running for President, I know that for a fact.

2nd, It is not a war on guns, its a war against the 2nd amendment and the constitution.

3rd, If he lost his mind and decided to run, he would run to the left of any democratic candidate, meaning he would help the GOP and hurt the dem nominee since he wouldn't be running as a republican.

And last, again, he is not running, nor does he have any intent to run for President, and he has the political insitincts of a coffee cup, he has no clue nor cares to, about what people want. (In some respects, he is honest about what he is).

9 posted on 05/23/2007 10:58:28 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: beltfed308
Here's a thread from a few years back. Other articles on the story were more detailed, but this was the only one I could dig up.
11 posted on 05/23/2007 11:03:49 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

He’ s a liar! A .22 rifle makes only slightly more noise than a BB gun.


13 posted on 05/23/2007 11:17:49 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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At 5.5 Billion, he’s more a Senator than a President. John better keep a close eye on Terayza.


14 posted on 05/23/2007 11:43:48 AM PDT by DPMD (dpmd)
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To: Brilliant

Hornady 168gr. BTHP over 57gr. W760 in an RP case with WLR primer up Bloombergs (unfired of course).


15 posted on 05/23/2007 11:54:47 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: Hot Tabasco

I guess the most constructive way to look at Bloomberg would be that he’s proof that nobody is completely worthless. On can always serve as a bad example.


16 posted on 05/23/2007 12:00:55 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ..
He’ s a liar! A .22 rifle makes only slightly more noise than a BB gun.

I was inclined to agree with you until I found this. I always wondered if my fondness for things that go bang sank my attempt to go to West Point.

Saving Your Hearing by William F. Kendy

How loud are different types of firearms? Here's a basic list of peak sound pressure levels (decibels).

.44 Magnum Revolver - 164
.357 Magnum Revolver - 164
.30-06 Rifle - 159
.45 Automatic - 157
.38 Revolver - 158
12 Gauge Shotgun - 156
.223 Rifle - 155
.22 Rimfire Revolver - 152
.22 Rimfire Rifle - 134

17 posted on 05/23/2007 12:31:52 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

I would love for him to run...

It would be an incredible waste of his own money!!!

Hit them where it hurts I suppose...

And if it does, his candidacy would siphon off liberal votes...

Just my take on it...


18 posted on 05/23/2007 1:55:18 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: neverdem
How loud are different types of firearms? Here's a basic list of peak sound pressure levels (decibels).

Unfortunately I can't dispute Bloomberg's allegation but I still think he is a liar whose sole agenda is total disarmament of all people.

FWIW, I have a trap set up in my basement where I periodically shoot my Rueger .22 pistol and my Beeman Kodiak pellet rifle and have no discernable hearing loss......

Besides, since he lost his hearing, all firearms instruction manuals and ranges now mandate hearing protection when firing guns...........

19 posted on 05/23/2007 2:43:38 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco
Unfortunately I can't dispute Bloomberg's allegation but I still think he is a liar whose sole agenda is total disarmament of all people.

That's bad enough, but his agenda is bigger than that. He's a health nazi.

FWIW, I have a trap set up in my basement where I periodically shoot my Rueger .22 pistol and my Beeman Kodiak pellet rifle and have no discernable hearing loss......

Has it been checked with an audiogram?

20 posted on 05/23/2007 3:02:59 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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