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Will the Real Charles Lindberg Please Stand Up?
Associated Content ^ | 4-30-07 | Ranger

Posted on 04/30/2007 8:35:23 PM PDT by mission9

Long before the O. J. Simpson trial, the "trial of the century" was the Lindberg baby kidnapping and murder case. The son of the most famous American family of the 20th century, (Colonel Charles Lindbergh and Anne Morrow Lindbergh) was kidnapped in 1932 and declared dead after being missing for six weeks. The body (so badly decomposed that proper identification was not possible), was presented to Charles Lindberg. Mr. Lindberg identified the body as that of his missing son, even though witnesses question even the sex of the corpse. Bruno Haupmann, a carpenter, and German immigrant, who had some acquaintance with the Lindberg family, was tried and convicted in a media circus show trial. Mr. Haupmann was executed soon after his conviction. Forensic evidence of the child's corpse, and other evidence of the location of corpse have always been questioned. The child's body was cremated within hours of Charles Senior's posthumous identification.

In a stunning new development, seventy three years after these dramatic events, Charles A. Lindberg, Jr. ......

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: charleslindberg; gangsters; kidnapping; lindberg
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To: Marysecretary

So your view is that anyone in the world that shows up claiming to be related to you should be able to force you into a DNA test? DNA has plenty of uses, but unless this guy can come up with some real evidence, not pictures of ears, then I see no reason to take this claim that he could not possibly know the truth of seriously.


21 posted on 04/30/2007 9:00:47 PM PDT by JLS
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To: mission9
All of the false claimants pretending to be members of the Tsar's family, were discredited. The most famous Anastasia claimant, a German woman named Anna something, had also been treated for mental illness. But apparently she was sincere in her delusion that she was Anastasia.
22 posted on 04/30/2007 9:01:27 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Clemenza

He had a daughter and two sons in Berlin by a mother who was disabled. They went public after her death.


23 posted on 04/30/2007 9:01:32 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (Stop calling them "liberals," they're Bolsheviks!)
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To: Clemenza
I read the Readers Digest Biography after his death. He spent the last years of his life in Hawaii, a sort of recluse. Oh by the way, I’m going soft on Newt in favor of Fred.
24 posted on 04/30/2007 9:03:01 PM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

I remember that.


25 posted on 04/30/2007 9:03:11 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: mission9

I heard years ago that Lindberg’s sister had a hand in taking the boy and Charles wanted her protected so they came up with a sucker to take the fall....If this guy is Charles Jr,now THAT’S A STORY!!!!!!!


26 posted on 04/30/2007 9:03:38 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: mission9

The title you created “Did the Lindberg Baby Survive?” was not the published title.

We’re trying to keep duplicate threads to a minimum and would appreciate your use of published titles only.


27 posted on 04/30/2007 9:05:06 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Ciexyz
But apparently she was sincere in her delusion that she was Anastasia.

So much for the 1979 polygraph.

28 posted on 04/30/2007 9:06:06 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Irene Adler
As I remember:

1. Hauptmann spent some of the ransom money.

2. Lumber from Hauptmann’s attic was used to make the ladder.

It seems to me the outstanding issues were:

A. Were their some accomplices who were not caught who spent some of the money.

B. The ladder was poorly made and Hauptmann was a carpenter. Hauptmann’s defense claimed a German visitor who stayed with Hauptmann and went back to Germany and died shortly had the access to the lumber and spent some of the money and maybe was the real kidnapper?

It seems to me that points A and B might be related.

29 posted on 04/30/2007 9:06:14 PM PDT by JLS
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To: oprahstheantichrist

I could never figure out how Lindbergh ever got entangled with the German woman by whom he had the children (the relationship has certainly been proven beyond doubt). He was one of the most introverted and eccentric people who ever lived, just not real connected to other people and had a distant and somwhat difficult relationship with his wife and children. I wonder if it has been established how they met and became attracted to one another? Very curious.


30 posted on 04/30/2007 9:06:49 PM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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To: Clemenza; processing please hold

The History Channel has a piece on Lindberg helping out P-38 pilots in the Pacific, showing them how to stretch their fuel without damaging the engines.


31 posted on 04/30/2007 9:10:58 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: mission9

Jon Lindbergh


Reeve Lindbergh

Land Lindbergh
Charles Lindbergh Jr?

32 posted on 04/30/2007 9:14:06 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: JLS
The ladder was actually cleverly made to be used only once and to be easy to take apart and transport in the back of a car. That' why it seemed flimsy and did actually break at some point during the kidnapping. It was found at the scene with one rung broken. Sketches for it's design were found in journals kept by Hauptmann's apart which were not even denied by him and were clearly in his handwriting as well.

The poor guy (Isidor Fisch) who Hauptmann tried to finger as the man who gave him the ransom money was sick with TB and died, I think, somewhat after the kidnapping in a charity hospital in Berlin where he had gone to be near his family before he died. The idea that he could have been part of a kidnapping plot is just not real probable, and Hautpmann is hardly the only criminal who tried to finger a dead guy who could not defend himself. Would he have been willing to die in poverty if he had had the ransom money? Why would he just hand it over to Hauptmann?

Most people are probably not aware that Hauptmann had done prison time for felony convictions before he left Germany. Fisch, on the other hand, had no criminal background at all.

33 posted on 04/30/2007 9:15:23 PM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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To: Calvin Locke

Correct. Lindberg also offered to both join the army air corps, then act as an advisor. FDR turned him down on both occassions on accounts of the virulent anti-Roosevelt and isolationist speeched Lindy gave in the late 1930s up until Pearl Harbor.


34 posted on 04/30/2007 9:15:57 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: Irene Adler

Isidor Fisch never spent a nickel of the ransom money. There is no record of that ever happening. He was in Germany by the time the ransom bills began showing up in circulation. Hauptmann, on the other hand, had been passing bills all over New York, he was arrested with several of the bills on him, and a substantial portion of the money was found buried in the walls and floor of his garage. He also quit his job right after the kidnapping and began trying tomoney in the stock market, but he lost quite a bit. He never worked after the kidnapping, and his source of income, unless you take the ransom money into consideration, is a total mystery.


35 posted on 04/30/2007 9:21:00 PM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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To: Blogger
I definitely see a familial resemblance.
36 posted on 04/30/2007 9:24:07 PM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: mission9

Many men and some women have made claims to be the Lindbergh baby. Nothing new here.


37 posted on 04/30/2007 9:43:56 PM PDT by iowamark (What if the Right said Fred?)
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To: processing please hold
No! He was an America First proponent along with Henry Ford. He traveled throughout the world after his famous flight and he brought back observations of the vibrancy of the German aviation industry despite the WWI treaty provisions which were to prevent German rearming!

Lindbergh was also the Great Grand Uncle of the the US Space Program.

When he returned from France after his flight he was the Toast of the Town and attended many socialite parties. At one party he met his future wife. At another party the Googenheim's took him aside and offered him money for his accomplishment. He said no thanks but you might want to provide support to this nutty Science teacher in Massachusettes who is working on rockets and annoying his neighbors. The Googenheims provided a $50,000 grant to Goddard who took his experimental liquid fueled rockets to GASP Roswell New Mexico where he developed his rockets. A German Rocket enthusiast by the name of von Braun would learn from Goddard's papers and thus the V-2 was born.

after the war von Braun would bring his skills to the US and when Kennedy set the goal of a lunar landing von Braun would ask his friend LBJ to ask JFK to award a Presidential medal to Goddard for his works. von braun would build the Saturn family of rockets and July 20 1969 will go down in history.

On his deathbed a reporter would ask Lindbergh what his felt was the most exciting experience of his lifetime. Mind you he had worked with DeBakey on the artificial heart, was a war hero in the South Pacific and many other accomplishments. He told the reporter that the most exciting moment in his life was seeing an Eagle land on the Moon!

38 posted on 04/30/2007 9:44:04 PM PDT by Young Werther ( and Julius Ceasar said, "quae cum ita sunt." (or since these things are so!))
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To: Blogger
Or maybe a bastard son of Larry King...


39 posted on 04/30/2007 9:49:59 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: mission9
Bruno always claimed his innocence.

A claim without precedent in the entire history of criminal trials. /s
40 posted on 04/30/2007 9:52:44 PM PDT by Mariebl
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