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Why Women Hate Hillary
In These Times ^ | April 26, 2007 | Susan J. Douglas

Posted on 04/28/2007 10:27:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

We sat around the dinner table, a group of 50-something progressive feminists, talking to a friend from England about presidential politics. We were all for Hillary, weren’t we, he asked. Hillary? We hated Hillary. He was taken aback. Weren’t we her base? Wasn’t she one of us? Why did we hate Hillary?

Of course, a lot of people seem to hate Hillary. According to some polls, anywhere from 39 to 50 percent of respondents claim they’d vote against her no matter what; her “negatives” continue to be high. Many of these are Republicans and men. But many are not. According to a Harris poll in March, 52 percent of married women said they would not vote for her. Nearly half of adults say they dislike her personality and her politics. Unlike her husband, people seem to find her cold and don’t see her connecting with everyday people, and this is especially true for married women. Ironically, it is Gen Xers, those between 31 and 42, who give her the most support.

So what gives? For people like my friends and me, her hawkish position on Iraq and her insistence that the U.S. maintain a military presence there even after the troops are withdrawn have been very disappointing. But it’s more than any specific position. Women don’t trust Hillary. They see her as an opportunist; many feel betrayed by her. Why?

Baby boomer women grew up with the Feminine Mystique and then came of age with the Women’s Liberation Movement. As a result, millions of us have spent our lives crafting a compromise—or a fusion—between femininity on the one hand and feminism on the other. And for many of us feminism did not mean trying to be more like men. It meant challenging patriarchy: trying to bring equity to family life, humanizing the workplace, prioritizing women’s issues in politics, and confronting the dangers of militarism and imperialism. And millions of us fought (and continue to fight) these battles wearing lipstick, skirts and a smile: the masquerade of femininity we are compelled to don.

Hillary, by contrast, seems to want to be more like a man in her demeanor and politics, makes few concessions to the social demands of femininity, and yet seems to be only a partial feminist. She seems above us, exempting herself from compromises women have to make every day, while, at the same time, leaving some of the basic tenets of feminism in the dust. We are sold out on both counts. In other words, she seems like patriarchy in sheep’s clothing.

One of progressive feminism’s biggest (and so far, failed) battles has been against the Genghis Khan principle of American politics: that our leaders must be ruthless, macho empire builders fully prepared to drop the big one if they have to and invade anytime, anywhere. When Geraldine Ferraro ran for vice president in 1984, the recurring question was whether she had the cojones to push the red button, as if that is the ultimate criterion for leading the country. And while American politics has, for years, been all about the necessity of displaying masculinity, Bush, Cheney and Rove succeeded in upping the ante after 9/11 so that the sight of John Kerry windsurfing meant he wasn’t man enough to run the country. But now, with the massive failures of this callous macho posture everywhere—a disastrous war, a deeply endangered environment and more people than ever without health insurance—millions are desperate for a new vision and a new model of leadership.

All of this frames many women’s reactions to Hillary. If she’s a feminist, how could she continue to support this war for so long? If she’s such a passionate advocate for children, women and families, how could she countenance the ongoing killing of innocent Iraqi families, and of American soldiers who are also someone’s children? If it would be so revolutionary to have a female as president, why does she feel like the same old poll-driven opportunistic politician who seems to craft her positions accordingly?

Maybe women like me are being extra hard on Hillary because she’s a woman. After all, baby boomer women couldn’t be “as good” as men in school or the workplace; we had to be better, to prove that women deserved equal opportunities. And this is part of the problem too. We don’t want the first female president to be Joe Lieberman in drag, pushing Bush-lite politics. We expect something better.

Clearly, Hillary and her advisors have calculated that for a woman to be elected in this country, she’s got to come across as just as tough as the guys. And maybe they’re right. But so far, Hillary is not getting men with this strategy, and women feel written off. After the dark ages of this pugnacious administration, many of us want to let the light in. We want a break with the past, optimism, and a recommitment to the government caring about and serving the needs of everyday people. We want what feminism began to fight for 40 years ago—humanizing deeply patriarchal institutions. And, ironically, we see candidates like John Edwards or Barack Obama—men—offering just that. If Hillary Clinton wants to be the first female president, then maybe, just maybe, she should actually run as a woman.

Susan J. Douglas is a professor of communications at the University


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: New York; US: North Carolina
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1 posted on 04/28/2007 10:27:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The writer believes that Hillary, although "too manly", is not liberal enough.
2 posted on 04/28/2007 10:30:01 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Drivel.


3 posted on 04/28/2007 10:35:15 PM PDT by karnage
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is one time the “enemy of my enemy is my friend” principle goes right out the airlock.

Eeeew!!!!!

4 posted on 04/28/2007 10:36:24 PM PDT by Ronin (Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est.)
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To: karnage
Agreed. But we need insight into why our opponents, the defeatocrats, do what they do, and vote as they do, don’t you agree?
6 posted on 04/28/2007 10:37:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bwahahahaha!!! That’s too funny. In other words, they don’t like Hillary because she doesn’t fit their ideal. The funny part is that anyone who did would be totally unelectable outside of Rhode Island.


7 posted on 04/28/2007 10:39:01 PM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

8 posted on 04/28/2007 10:39:59 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray for Tony Snow, Liz Edwards, cancer patients, their families and support.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey please at least give me a BARF ALERT so I know better than to read this drivel :)


9 posted on 04/28/2007 10:40:15 PM PDT by joseph20
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To: Letaka

Oh yeah, this is all that happens over there....

“the ongoing killing of innocent Iraqi families”

I loathe he because she is a lying, conniving, treasonous devil. Nothing to do with feminism.


10 posted on 04/28/2007 10:40:21 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his. Song of Solomon 2:16)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For people like my friends and me, her hawkish position on Iraq and her insistence that the U.S. maintain a military presence there even after the troops are withdrawn have been very disappointing.

How does Hillary plan to maintain a military presence without troops?

11 posted on 04/28/2007 10:40:56 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Ahmadinejad's new nickname: "Nuclear Cho".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We want what feminism began to fight for 40 years ago—humanizing deeply patriarchal institutions. And, ironically, we see candidates like John Edwards or Barack Obama—men—offering just that.

Well, I'll be. This woman thinks John Edwards is poised to become the first female president.

12 posted on 04/28/2007 10:42:37 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Ahmadinejad's new nickname: "Nuclear Cho".)
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To: karnage
Drivel.

No, it's much better than that. It's a moonbat talking about how disappointed and angry she is with the hildabeast and she appears to speak for many of her ilk.

Honestly, I think it will be hard for us to lose in 2008. We're either going to be facing an unlikeable woman that doesn't even excite her own party, or a black ultraliberal lightweight with less than one term in the senate.

13 posted on 04/28/2007 10:46:50 PM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
BULL squeeze.. Anyone that could support John Kerry could and WILL vote for Hitlery 2008.. Kerry damn near WON in 2004..

OH! and Multi-millions of Legal and Illegal Aliens will VOTE democrat for WHOMEVER RUNS as a democrat.. You know, all the democrats the White House gleefully imported across the border.. and still is importing.. BOTH borders..

14 posted on 04/28/2007 10:47:50 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
her hawkish position on Iraq

This could come only from a true blue moonbat.

15 posted on 04/28/2007 10:48:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of progressive feminism’s biggest (and so far, failed) battles ( From the article)
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Progressive?....????

MARXIST feminism is what it really is.


16 posted on 04/28/2007 10:48:21 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

well theres always dennis kucinich.....he’s got the feminine mystique down pat....actually, he’s the only dem I respect...he is honest


17 posted on 04/28/2007 10:49:48 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Hey, this aint like the 1960s, this is like the 1860s.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The writer didn’t cover the “Why No Divorce” question.

If Hillary hasn’t been strong enough to Dump her unrepentant Womanizer hubby, how can I trust her to run my Country?

18 posted on 04/28/2007 10:52:10 PM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We want a break with the past, optimism, and a recommitment to the government caring about and serving the needs of everyday people.
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What the author wants is a commitment to Marxism.

Marxism is the ultimate commitment to government taking care of its people.

19 posted on 04/28/2007 10:53:33 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: AZLiberty

How does Hillary plan to maintain a military presence without troops?

The “Think Method” ala The Music Man.


20 posted on 04/28/2007 10:54:00 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Hey, this aint like the 1960s, this is like the 1860s.)
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