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Sources: Virginia Tech gunman left note
Chicago Tribune ^ | April 17, 2007 | Aamer Madhani

Posted on 04/17/2007 8:55:01 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

BLACKSBURG, Va. -- The suspected gunman in the Virginia Tech shooting rampage, Cho Seung-Hui, was a troubled 23-year-old senior from South Korea who investigators believe left an invective-filled note in his dorm room, sources say.

The note included a rambling list of grievances and ended with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on the inside of one of his arms.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


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To: 3AngelaD

“The note included a rambling list of grievances and ended with the words “Ismail Ax” in red ink on the inside of one of his arms.”

Sooo...is it in the note or on his arm? Who writes this crap?

(or am I just having reading comprehension issues?)


21 posted on 04/17/2007 9:02:46 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: 3AngelaD
A note believed to have been written by Cho was found in his dorm room that railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus.
22 posted on 04/17/2007 9:02:53 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: penowa

Possibly. Stalking women, set a fire in his dorm room, wrote a screed and signed it “Ismail Ax”...I’m thinking “nutburger” before I’m thinking ROP on this one. Although Ishmael is generally considered to be the father of the Arabs, and thus the Muslims descended from him the same way that the Israelites descended from Isaac and Jacob.

}:-)4


23 posted on 04/17/2007 9:02:55 AM PDT by Moose4 (Today, we are all Hokies.)
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To: cripplecreek

Ishmael in Islam
Main article: Islamic view of Ishmael
In Islam, Ishmael is known as the first-born son of Abraham (Ibrahim in Arabic) from Hagar, and as an appointed prophet of God.

Although Ishmael’s name was not mentioned in the Qur’an as the son who was supposed to be sacrificed, nevertheless the sacrifice tale in the Qur’an (As-Saffat [37:112]) clearly states that God gave Abraham the good news of Isaac and who he will be (a prophet, and one of the Righteous) after the sacrifice tale has finished which means that Isaac was not yet born at the time of the sacrifice[2]. In Islamic beliefs, Abraham had prayed to God for a son (’Isma’ in Arabic means ‘to listen’, i.e., answer prayer, and ‘ell’ is derived from the Hebrew word ‘elle’, meaning ‘God’). God delivered this child to Abraham, and later tested Abraham’s faith by asking him to sacrifice his only son at the time. However, just as Abraham was to kill his only son, God halted him, praised him for his loyalty, and commanded him to sacrifice a ram instead. This leads to the Muslim practice of sacrificing domesticated animals such as sheep, goats or cows, on the celebration to mark this event known as Eid ul-Adha.

According to The Oxford Companion To The Bible, “Because Ishmael was circumcised (Gen. 17:25), so are most Muslims. And, analogous to Paul’s reversal of the figures of Isaac and Ishmael (Gal. 4:24-26), Muslim tradition makes Ishmael rather than Isaac the son Abraham was commanded to sacrifice.”[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael


24 posted on 04/17/2007 9:02:57 AM PDT by meg88
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To: wideawake
Ismail Ax as a keyword in google yields nothing that seems even tenuously related to the VT event..

Ditto for Alta VIsta and Dogpile.

25 posted on 04/17/2007 9:03:01 AM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: 3AngelaD

Very interesting. BTTT!


26 posted on 04/17/2007 9:03:17 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: penowa

He set a couple of FIRES in his dorm room and they didn’t EXPEL him??


27 posted on 04/17/2007 9:04:04 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: DogBarkTree

“The note included a rambling list of grievances and ended with the words “Ismail Ax” in red ink on the inside of one of his arms.”

There is no Islamic connection. Repeat 3 times and rinse.


28 posted on 04/17/2007 9:04:10 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Al Gator
“Investigators believe Cho at some point had been taking medication for depression. “

The FIX is in.........

29 posted on 04/17/2007 9:04:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: 3AngelaD

This is becoming more and more interesting:

“A note believed to have been written by Cho was found in his dorm room that railed against “rich kids,” “debauchery” and “deceitful charlatans” on campus.”

And also an “Ismail Ax”?

Don’t tell me - another “religion of peace” follower?

A muslum?


30 posted on 04/17/2007 9:04:12 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: 3AngelaD
A note believed to have been written by Cho was found in his dorm room that railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus.

Damn those rich kids...more evidence of "two Americas". Debauchery? On an American campus? I'm shocked. Deceitful charlatans? You mean the Student Loan department? /s

But seriously, what the hell does "Ismail Ax" mean?

31 posted on 04/17/2007 9:04:58 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: 3AngelaD

Can’t find the “Ismail X” reference anywhere in the linked article.


32 posted on 04/17/2007 9:05:05 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: ASOC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_I

Shāh Ismā'il Abu'l-Mozaffar bin Sheikh Haydar bin Sheikh Junayd Safawī (Persian: شاه اسماعیل - Azerbaijani: Şah İsmayıl Səfəvi) (July 17, 1487 - May 23, 1524), Shah of Iran and the founder of the Safavid dynasty, which survived until 1736. He was a Shi'ite from Ardabil, Iran. Shah Ismail first proclaimed Safavid Shia state in Azerbaijan in 1501, and year later, in 1502, in all of Iran. [1] He reigned as Shāh Ismā'il I of Irān from 1502 to 1524. Shah Ismail was also a prolific poet who, under the pen name Khatā'ī, contributed greatly to the literary development of Azerbaijani language.[2]

33 posted on 04/17/2007 9:05:19 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: cripplecreek

I think the whole thing is Rosie O’Doughnut’s fault because she made fun of asians.


34 posted on 04/17/2007 9:05:21 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: Just sayin
I hit those two words into the search box and what was the first link to come up?

Very interesting what comes up with a search ... geez

35 posted on 04/17/2007 9:05:23 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Just another troubled “youth” (on Prozac probably) crying out for help. /s


36 posted on 04/17/2007 9:05:24 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: 3AngelaD

I read the same Trib article and after I googled Ismail Ax and returned to the story the Trib had pulled the sentence referring to Ismail Ax.

I wonder why??????


37 posted on 04/17/2007 9:05:31 AM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: 3AngelaD

He was an English major. Maybe this is a reference to the first line of Herman Melville’s Moby Dick: “Call me Ishmael”...


38 posted on 04/17/2007 9:05:35 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: Steve0113

ready to pay off that bet?


39 posted on 04/17/2007 9:06:08 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: wideawake

On line, Ismail is a Muslim name. Google it. I guess it’s a variant on one of Abraham’s sons.


40 posted on 04/17/2007 9:06:09 AM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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