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Fred Thompson on Neil Cavuto FoxNews—Today: Wednesday 4-11 at 4pm EASTERN

Posted on 04/11/2007 10:05:53 AM PDT by cpforlife.org

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To: redangus

He will run. The feedback going to him now is positive.

Read from his friends in Tennessee:

http://www.fred08.com

Read some history of other presidents:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1815463/posts?page=156#156

The Presidency is not a place for stress normally unless it is in crisis mode. It is a very calm and orderly information center with lots of functions. It is a decision making support center.

The Presidency has an enormous number of people working for it to take care of details and coordinate resources for decision support.

The Chief of Staff and especially those under that position can and should take on the stress. Their job is to do the stressful work for the President.

What the President and his closest advisors must do is ensure the right people are chosen to work the critical and stress filled tasks. If the right people aren’t chosen then a crisis can float to the top.

GW Bush made some people mistakes. It cost him.


181 posted on 04/11/2007 8:41:05 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Plutarch

I can’t speak exactly to Freds condition, but I can talk about two people I have known personally who have had NHL. One was my late wife. She was diagnosed with breast cancer in 1992. In August 1996 she was told she was cured. In May of 1997 she woke up one morning and couldn’t stand up. At the oncologist office she was told she now had NHL and it had spread rapidly throughout the lymph system, she died in September.

The second person was a friend of mine who was diagnosed with NHL while serving in Bosnia. He came home, was treated for 3 years and was told he was cured. 6 month later he died.

Does that mean Fred has the same type of NHL or that his disease will progress in the same manner, no, and I hope for his sake and his family’s that it doesn’t. But I am afraid, based on my own experiences I don’t put much stock in doctor’s prognoses when it comes to NHL.


182 posted on 04/11/2007 9:14:26 PM PDT by redangus
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To: Hostage

Congratulations to you and your wife! My husband and I had children after we thought all hope was lost. What a blessing.

Oh, and go, Fred! His interview was marvellous. His lymphoma does not affect my enthusiasm for his candidacy.


183 posted on 04/11/2007 9:38:28 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: redangus

Your second account shows your .....how can I say it tactfully....your imagination.

No oncologist would ever tell someone with NHL that they are ‘cured’. There is no cure.

Your wife had chemo for breast cancer that is specifically targeted for breast cancer. The chemo causes other cells to mutate and the result for breast cancer patients is the development of another type of cancer with 5-7 years.

Each of us develop about 2000 cancer cells every day and they are kept in check by our immune system. When women undergo specific chemo for breast cancer their immunity is lowered allowing other cancer cells to grow or spread.

Going back to your friend, if he was initially diagnosed at a later aggressive stage of the disease then intensive chemo can arrest the disease and cause it to go into remission but it can come back more virulent than before. If caught in early stages of the disease then the aggressive form will never develop as long as the person has the right genotype and is treated early.

FDT has an early form that is slow-growing. He is one of the fortunate ones.


184 posted on 04/11/2007 9:56:09 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: FredHunter08

Yeah but you are from the “moral absolutes” wing.

So now your White in Shining Armor has a big breasted trophy wife who looks like his daughter with a baby that looks like his great-grandchild...hey good for him but for your crowd..

Rudy standing next to Judith will look normal next to that.


185 posted on 04/11/2007 9:56:11 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: ellery

Thank you and same to you!

Then your family and mine can appreciate how the Thompsons must be filled with awesome joy.

Pray they find comfort and support to give them the confidence to go forward and win the Presidency!


186 posted on 04/11/2007 10:00:48 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: FredHunter08
“We could go all day with “You don’t think.... is strange?” for your guy.”

The RudyHaters already go on for all day and nite. Some for 30 hours straight. I think some are on stimulants or more likely unhinged. The reason I have stayed away from the Rudy threads is that I have better things to do with my time then debate mentally unhinged folks on the Internet.

187 posted on 04/11/2007 10:12:05 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Hostage
"No oncologist would ever tell someone with NHL that they are. There is no cure."

Maybe no oncologist you know, but you see I was in the room when her doctor told her that the tests had all come back clean and she was free of the cancer and should expect to live out her normal allotment of years(pretty much the same words Fred used today in the Cavuto interview). Needless to say we were ecstatic. She left the office consumed with tears of joy. 9 month later the same doctors told her the cancer had spread throughout her body. Again she left the office in tears, but of a totally different type. 4 month later I was burying her, so please don't be so condescending with your comment on my imagination.

As for my friend he was told that his disease was in remission and that he had a 75% chance of living a full life. He was dead in 6 month.

You are right there is no cure for cancer. As a college biology student I worked as a research assistance on some cancer studies so I am not some uninformed bumpkin. I have lost a grandmother, father, wife(her grandfather and an aunt) and a friend to cancer, I know there is no cure and that is what concerns me about Fred, Rudy and John. I hope Fred does not have the same type of NHL that my wife had, and that he and the others live to be 90, but don’t insult my intelligence by insinuating I imagined what my wife and I went through.

188 posted on 04/11/2007 10:49:50 PM PDT by redangus
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To: Blackirish
“Yeah but you are from the “moral absolutes” wing.”

I’m from the “respect the Constitution or pound sand” wing. Rudy is an enemy of that document.

“Rudy standing next to Judith will look normal next to that.”

Rudy in drag. Rudy moving in with a gay couple. Rudy in drag again...

Plus, Rudy plotting the subversion of the Constitution.

Your guy is a dangerous liberal sleaze.

189 posted on 04/12/2007 4:47:53 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: redangus

I am very sorry for your losses.

You understand there are alot of con artists in the blogosphere that are attempting everyday to smear Fred Thompson and his family. Politics is an ugly business that way.

Yesterday’s news about Fred Thompson’s cancer was not a concern to me because I work in cancer research and am fairly current on developments.

I think I explained to you fairly well in simple terms why women with breast cancer go on to get other cancers. I am not sure when all this occurred in your life but I know that in today’s oncological clinical setting a woman who is treated for breast cancer would never be told what your wife was told. Only after years of followup with no sign of cancer would she be told that it appears she is free of the cancer and then given a prognosis of a normal lifespan.

From what you say cancer runs in your family and that is a risk factor in itself. Again I am sorry to hear that you have so much family loss and I pray that the advances that continue to be made will help stem any possible future loss your family is at risk for.

Fred Thompson was honest in his interview in saying ‘cure’ was never a word to be used in cancer just as it is not a word to be used in diabetes (although diabetes has a chance through stem cell research of finding a cure).

Again your wife’s case cannot be compared to Fred Thompson’s because she had a treatment for a different cancer that left her prone to developing new cancers.

You friend’s cancer appears to have been caught too late.

The best I can tell you is from the thousands of case data I have seen, NHL patients that have the right genotype and who receive early treatment have a very good prognosis, so much so that they are very likely to die of other causes not related to NHL.

Early detection and treatment of treatable NHL has a prognosis of normal lifespan.

Stage three or later detection and treatment of treatable NHL has a prognosis of 5-10 years.

Early detection and treatment of non-treatable NHL has a prognosis of 2-7 years.

Late detection and treatment of non-treatable NHL has a prognosis of 0-2 years.


190 posted on 04/12/2007 6:03:17 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Politicalmom

Ug.


191 posted on 04/12/2007 6:59:20 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Hostage

Now, that’s much better than “BS!”


192 posted on 04/12/2007 7:22:33 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
Post #141 you wrote:

his is the one least responsive to aggressive treatment and therefore, such treatment is delayed until symptoms demand treatment

That is complete BS.

I respond to posts as yours in this manner because I see you could not have made a simple mistake, maybe disillusioned but your post is completely fabricated.

Where do come up with this? How can you see what everyone else saw yesterday and come up with this line that his cancer is one of the least responsive to aggressive treatment? It's so off that you could only have done it if you have your head up your posterior or you have hallucinations. I am in the medical field so I can forgive those that suffer hallucinations. But you seem capable of reading research scripts although not understanding their context, and so it seems you would be better to link your findings and ask questions rather than put out BS.

193 posted on 04/12/2007 8:33:31 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage

You seem to be unable to hold a polite conversation; what drives you to invective?


194 posted on 04/12/2007 9:14:32 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer

I already told you in the prior post.

Tell us again how you came up with FDT’s cancer being the least responsive to aggressive treatment.

I’m waiting.


195 posted on 04/12/2007 9:17:14 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: FredHunter08

“Plus, Rudy plotting the subversion of the Constitution.”

Here try this on....hope it helps.

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/build.html


196 posted on 04/12/2007 9:17:19 AM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Hostage

Like I said, I read a lot.

You seem to think I was placing a particular limit on his viability while I was only stating averages from one site; by aggressive treatment I meant a course of chemo and radio drugs while you seem to think I meant the disease couldn’t be treated.

This Univ of Maryland site has a general overview that you might want to read.

http://www.umm.edu/patiented/articles/how_serious_non-hodgkins_lymphomas_000084_5.htm


197 posted on 04/12/2007 10:41:18 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Blackirish
“Here try this on....hope it help.”

Stop with the spin, son.

Your boy has proven he is against the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments at the LEAST.

198 posted on 04/12/2007 4:23:11 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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