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Rudy Runs the Rapids
U.S. News and World Report ^ | 4/1/07 | Mort Zuckerman

Posted on 04/02/2007 10:13:12 AM PDT by areafiftyone

The 2008 marathon has begun in double quick time. It is disconcerting to be so far ahead of where we normally are in presidential elections, but the political reality today is that the clusters of primaries, rivers of funding, and bookings of TV spots and experts are all on fast forward. I will be discussing the main contenders in this space, but one has to start with the contender who has come out, in the words of the Civil War cavalry Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, "firstest with the mostest."

Rudy Giuliani.

To everyone's surprise, Giuliani has been dominating the Republican preference in virtually every poll. He may lose some of the luster following two little news bombs that came too late for the pollsters—that Giuliani had indeed been briefed on serious questions about the disgraced Bernard Kerik before appointing him police commissioner and that if elected he may have Mrs. Judy Giuliani sit in on his cabinet meetings. Still, Giuliani has had a substantial cushion: 16 points at least over John McCain. He has been married three times and has liberal views on gay rights, but he has fudged his stand on gun control and abortion enough to have a 14 percent lead even within the evangelical community.

The former mayor isn't popular just among Republicans, though. He has been leading Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the national polls to such an extent that the Republican Party could begin to think Giuliani could beat any Democrat, but especially Clinton, and make the party competitive in the Northeast and in California, while keeping its electoral advantage in the southern and Rocky Mountain states. That hope is dimmed by the Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll of March 27 and 28 that shows she has caught up and is ahead by 2 points (even before the two news bombs).

Law and order. The key question for the nomination is how Giuliani is able to assuage the fears of social conservatives. It's a question of priorities. Conservatives are willing to support Giuliani because he can win, because he is a "keep us safe" leader on security and terrorism, and because he is a bedrock conservative on issues like crime, welfare, and fiscal policy. Then there's his opposition to the therapy culture of the New York Times and the American Civil Liberties Union, which conservatives feel is at the core of our liberal culture.

While many Republicans differ with Giuliani on the social issues, only a small percentage would disqualify him on those grounds alone. A more nuanced objection to Giuliani is that while voters now think positively of him as a leader, they know relatively little about him and that he will be vulnerable to negative attack ads deeper into the campaign season.

Those of us in New York knew Giuliani long before he emerged from the tragedy of 9/11 as a national hero and America's Mayor. Prior to that terrible day, Giuliani had shown his capacity for decisive leadership in coming to the rescue of a city that seemed out of control. New York was transformed from the crime capital of America into the safest large city in America.

Before he got a grip on the problems, New York had over 2,000 murders a year and a crime rate that made everyone—residents, businesses, and visitors alike—feel threatened. As David Letterman put it: "New York now leads the world's great cities in the number of people around whom you shouldn't make a sudden move." In a 1993 poll, roughly 60 percent of New Yorkers felt things were so bad they would leave the city the next day if they could.



TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giuliani; rudy; rudyinadress; zuckerman
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To: noname07718; aligncare

Aligncare is a Rudy person he was being sarcastic. He had a sarcasm tag on it


21 posted on 04/02/2007 10:48:22 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: noname07718

LOL! That's okay. :-)


22 posted on 04/02/2007 10:48:48 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

Trying to keep up while work is piling up. Something had to suffer and in my haste, it was you. Sincere apologies once again.


23 posted on 04/02/2007 10:51:31 AM PDT by noname07718
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To: noname07718

No big deal! I'm at work too! LOL!


24 posted on 04/02/2007 11:08:35 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone
His misremembering about ______________?

abortion, 2nd ammendment rights, guest workers, same sex marriage, etc. etc. You can fill in the blank.

25 posted on 04/02/2007 11:13:33 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: Alberta's Child

Maybe he wasn't considered seriously because most mayors don't reach the status he has since then, world-wide. Just like most representatives do not, and most one-term senators do not. Unique circumstances define the person and the opportunity at times, don't they?


26 posted on 04/02/2007 11:15:34 AM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: aligncare
You are wrong on the facts. Rudy cut taxes. He also decreased the welfare rolls by nearly one third by curtailing double dipping (fraud) and requiring work for the able bodied. He also faced down the mob at the Fulton Fish market, faced down the homeless advocates who were constantly cutting him down for sending the homeless into shelters, and best of all disinvited Yasser Arafat to some premier just as he told the Saudi prince to shove his million dollar check after 9/11. You may not like Rudy but try to get your facts straight. He is a mensch like no other.
27 posted on 04/02/2007 11:22:26 AM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: noname07718

I'm glad we're on the same side of this issue! LOL!


28 posted on 04/02/2007 11:24:11 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: foreshadowed at waco
I was of course being absurd. You are absolutely correct on your facts.

Keep fighting against the lies that the anti Rudy Giuliani people are spreading. Truth will win out.

Mr. Giuliani is the best candidate for POTUS on the Republican side.

29 posted on 04/02/2007 11:27:30 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Call it whatever you want, he will be the president. He will beat whoever the democrat party trots out and he will take back the congress.


30 posted on 04/02/2007 11:30:07 AM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: areafiftyone

"While many Republicans differ with Giuliani on the social issues, only a small percentage would disqualify him on those grounds alone."

If you say so, Mort.
http://www.nndb.com/people/629/000024557/


31 posted on 04/02/2007 11:40:29 AM PDT by tumblindice ("It's broccoli!" ..."No, it's not. It's spinach, and I say to h*** with it." Popeye the conservative)
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To: areafiftyone
Isn't that nice. Little Morty Zuckerman is just trying to help us poor clueless Republicans find ourselves a good conservative nominee.

When will people finally realize that Rudi is the creation of the libmedia intended to destroy conservative Republicans, especially the gunowners and Religious Right?
32 posted on 04/02/2007 11:51:55 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: areafiftyone

Rudy bump.


33 posted on 04/02/2007 12:11:35 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: George W. Bush

Why is he polling well -- even among Christian conservatives?

BTW, I'm a gun owner (with a CCW in New York State) and I support Mr. Giuliani. Guess he's got clueless little ol' me fooled.


34 posted on 04/02/2007 12:12:45 PM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: foreshadowed at waco

Aligncare is on our side. Notice the sarcasm tag! LOL!


35 posted on 04/02/2007 12:13:18 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: aligncare
Why is he polling well -- even among Christian conservatives?

He isn't. It's a con job.

The only time we can check these polls against real results is at election time or during primaries or major straw polls.

They adjust these poll numbers to move public opinion to the Left when there is nothing upcoming shortly to expose their manipulations. As an election (or major real-world check) draws near, they adjust their numbers to match the real truth.

One of the stranger things is the coterie of folks here at FR that in the last year or two have decided that polls are our friends. Well, they're not. They are a weapon in the liberal arsenal.
36 posted on 04/02/2007 12:22:28 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Dreagon
Posting that, in the face of facts that completely counter that statement, only makes the poster of same, look foolish. Wishing, just isn’t going to make it so.
37 posted on 04/02/2007 2:26:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Alberta's Child

Oh yes, and Rudy now walks on water. Part of the new Rudy religious cult followers.


38 posted on 04/02/2007 2:30:53 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: George W. Bush

You are very right. Liberals know people like to be on the winning side. They use polls to shape opinion by making it look like everybody is thinking this way.
Hillary’s vast majority shaped by polls.


39 posted on 04/02/2007 2:34:35 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: twonie

The Rudy religious cult speaks out.

Rudy will be king and you can all just stuff it.

Hold on there bucko. He needs votes to do it.

Notice how a thread dies when Rudy is debunked?


40 posted on 04/02/2007 3:17:12 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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