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Rudy Runs the Rapids
U.S. News and World Report ^ | 4/1/07 | Mort Zuckerman

Posted on 04/02/2007 10:13:12 AM PDT by areafiftyone

The 2008 marathon has begun in double quick time. It is disconcerting to be so far ahead of where we normally are in presidential elections, but the political reality today is that the clusters of primaries, rivers of funding, and bookings of TV spots and experts are all on fast forward. I will be discussing the main contenders in this space, but one has to start with the contender who has come out, in the words of the Civil War cavalry Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, "firstest with the mostest."

Rudy Giuliani.

To everyone's surprise, Giuliani has been dominating the Republican preference in virtually every poll. He may lose some of the luster following two little news bombs that came too late for the pollsters—that Giuliani had indeed been briefed on serious questions about the disgraced Bernard Kerik before appointing him police commissioner and that if elected he may have Mrs. Judy Giuliani sit in on his cabinet meetings. Still, Giuliani has had a substantial cushion: 16 points at least over John McCain. He has been married three times and has liberal views on gay rights, but he has fudged his stand on gun control and abortion enough to have a 14 percent lead even within the evangelical community.

The former mayor isn't popular just among Republicans, though. He has been leading Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the national polls to such an extent that the Republican Party could begin to think Giuliani could beat any Democrat, but especially Clinton, and make the party competitive in the Northeast and in California, while keeping its electoral advantage in the southern and Rocky Mountain states. That hope is dimmed by the Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll of March 27 and 28 that shows she has caught up and is ahead by 2 points (even before the two news bombs).

Law and order. The key question for the nomination is how Giuliani is able to assuage the fears of social conservatives. It's a question of priorities. Conservatives are willing to support Giuliani because he can win, because he is a "keep us safe" leader on security and terrorism, and because he is a bedrock conservative on issues like crime, welfare, and fiscal policy. Then there's his opposition to the therapy culture of the New York Times and the American Civil Liberties Union, which conservatives feel is at the core of our liberal culture.

While many Republicans differ with Giuliani on the social issues, only a small percentage would disqualify him on those grounds alone. A more nuanced objection to Giuliani is that while voters now think positively of him as a leader, they know relatively little about him and that he will be vulnerable to negative attack ads deeper into the campaign season.

Those of us in New York knew Giuliani long before he emerged from the tragedy of 9/11 as a national hero and America's Mayor. Prior to that terrible day, Giuliani had shown his capacity for decisive leadership in coming to the rescue of a city that seemed out of control. New York was transformed from the crime capital of America into the safest large city in America.

Before he got a grip on the problems, New York had over 2,000 murders a year and a crime rate that made everyone—residents, businesses, and visitors alike—feel threatened. As David Letterman put it: "New York now leads the world's great cities in the number of people around whom you shouldn't make a sudden move." In a 1993 poll, roughly 60 percent of New Yorkers felt things were so bad they would leave the city the next day if they could.



TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giuliani; rudy; rudyinadress; zuckerman
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1 posted on 04/02/2007 10:13:14 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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Mot too shabby coming from the owner of the NY Daily News who hated Rudy from the Get go when he was mayor.


2 posted on 04/02/2007 10:14:05 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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Mot=Not


3 posted on 04/02/2007 10:14:45 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

(((RUDY PING))))


4 posted on 04/02/2007 10:15:07 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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Rudy has no chance. He has already peaked and his star has started to dim. People already know all the positives they care about regarding him, it's pretty much all negatives that are coming out now.....especially as more conservatives find out who he really is. Social conservatives see no difference between him and Hillary as far as issues they care about. Rudy can lead the Republicans nowhere but to defeat.


5 posted on 04/02/2007 10:22:09 AM PDT by Dreagon
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Rudy has no chance. He has already peaked and his star has started to dim.

Jeeze that's not what a Florida and a North Carolina poll said today. Are you trying to convince me or yourself?

6 posted on 04/02/2007 10:22:57 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone
Giuliani, a Republican mayor in a city that was Democratic by a margin of 5 to 1, correctly believed that public safety is the most fundamental civil right.

The public can be quite safe and still have no civil rights - Moscow had very little crime during the Soviet era.

The most important civil right is to have government follow its own rules.

7 posted on 04/02/2007 10:23:32 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: areafiftyone
New York was transformed from the crime capital of America into the safest large city in America.

Yes. By employing a liberal agenda of higher taxes, more regulation, increased welfare rolls, and cutting police services. /sacrasm

8 posted on 04/02/2007 10:24:29 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: areafiftyone
He is suggesting, in other words, that he would appoint people whose judicial philosophy is directly contrary to his own. He has also retreated from his long-held support for banning assault weapons, too easily available to criminals. Giuliani's rationale is that his previous position was made from his perspective as mayor of New York City and should not apply to the country at large. No doubt he will soon seek a way to get around his previous position on the issue of gay rights. If you believe all this, he has a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

No one can honestly believe this tripe. But the liberals are trying to seize this opportunity to take control of the Republican Party (wait - that didn't happen yet? you ask?) The lies they come fast and furious, rationalizing away any semblance of principle the GOP still clings to.

Well, the libs are out of luck -- we're not going to buy the crap they're selling. Not now, not ever.

9 posted on 04/02/2007 10:25:01 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: areafiftyone
Remember: Hillary is not a gun grabber. She would be a safer bet than Rudy.

If it comes down to Rudy or Hillary: VOTE THIRD PARTY OR HILLARY!

10 posted on 04/02/2007 10:25:13 AM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: areafiftyone
Those of us in New York knew Giuliani long before he emerged from the tragedy of 9/11 as a national hero and America's Mayor. Prior to that terrible day, Giuliani had shown his capacity for decisive leadership in coming to the rescue of a city that seemed out of control. New York was transformed from the crime capital of America into the safest large city in America.

Dear Mr. Zuckerman:

If Giuliani's track record in New York City is such a strong indicator of his ability to run the country, then why is it that almost NOBODY-- especially conservative people and organizations -- considered him a viable White House candidate before 9/11?

Sincerely,

Alberta's Child

11 posted on 04/02/2007 10:26:30 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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Events tend to propel people to national prominence. Then they are in a position to run. Call it fate.


12 posted on 04/02/2007 10:28:32 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: aligncare

"Some men are born great... others have greatness thrust upon them."


13 posted on 04/02/2007 10:34:43 AM PDT by veronica
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To: zarf
"If it comes down to Rudy or Hillary: VOTE THIRD PARTY OR HILLARY!"
You have a nice sense of irony. Otherwise go see a doctor.
14 posted on 04/02/2007 10:38:39 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: areafiftyone
Not a bad article for old Mort Zuckerman. I think the media has as much as they are going to get from the Barbara Walters interview where they took Rudy's words out of context and tried to turn Judy into another Hillary. He's doing great and will continue to do so.
15 posted on 04/02/2007 10:39:28 AM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: aligncare
Call it fate.

Or excessive media hype -- whether it's warranted or not.

16 posted on 04/02/2007 10:41:28 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: zarf
"....If it comes down to Rudy or Hillary: VOTE THIRD PARTY OR HILLARY!.........."


Either way is a vote for Hillary. No way, Jose! I will vote for the prevailing Republican!!

17 posted on 04/02/2007 10:41:36 AM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: Dreagon

It is very easy to predict defeat and to preach the negative. It takes rational thought and convincing logic to illustrate the path to success.

I await with baited breath your brilliant hypothesis on how and with whom, we will be successful in 2008.

A negative posit without a positive alternative is a very specious post.


18 posted on 04/02/2007 10:43:53 AM PDT by noname07718
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To: aligncare

Please check the facts before you go off and say less than intelligent stuff. You sound like a knee jerk liberal with that beyond the ken statement. Rudy lowered the tax burden for NYC more than the Federal Government did under Reagan!


19 posted on 04/02/2007 10:46:40 AM PDT by noname07718
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To: aligncare

Sorry Areafiftyone. Didn't see it was you and the "/sacrasm
"

Tom


20 posted on 04/02/2007 10:48:09 AM PDT by noname07718
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