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S.F. seeks Navy's help in effort to keep 49ers
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/8/7 | Robert Selna

Posted on 03/08/2007 8:06:48 AM PST by SmithL

Mayor wants Hunters Point Shipyard transferred to city to speed toxic cleanup -

Mayor Gavin Newsom's office is pushing the Navy to transfer ownership of Hunters Point Shipyard in San Francisco to the city in hope of accelerating a toxic cleanup of the property in time to meet the 49ers' 2012 deadline to build a new football stadium.

In a Feb. 16 memo obtained by The Chronicle, the city proposes to take ownership of the former naval base and assume responsibility for removing most non-radiological toxic material provided that the Navy covers the costs.

The Navy believes the transfer is possible. But questions remain about whether funding is available for a faster cleanup, the exact locations to be cleaned and whether the Navy can meet its obligation to rid the shipyard of radiological waste before turning it over to the city.

The city's responsibility would include dealing with chemical and petroleum contamination and other toxic wastes.

"Our primary objective is to expedite the cleanup and transfer of the shipyard so that we can create the public benefits the property holds, and one of those is the possibility of creating a stadium for the 49ers," said Newsom's base reuse director, Michael Cohen.

Cohen, who wrote the memo, said the Navy's current plan for the cleanup would take 10 more years. About $400 million has been spent so far, and another $500 million is needed to complete the work. The Navy believes a transfer to the city and faster cleanup would cost up to $75 million more. Cohen and Navy officials think Congress might provide that money.

The city wants title to the 500-acre former base as quickly as possible,...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 49ers; anytwosomenewsom; baghdadbythebay; breadandcircuses; sanfranciscovalues
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1 posted on 03/08/2007 8:06:52 AM PST by SmithL
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So, the city that hates the Navy now wants favors from the Navy. How special is that? Maybe the Navy should suggest Hunter's Point as the new home for USS Iowa.


2 posted on 03/08/2007 8:07:15 AM PST by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: SmithL

The Navy should agree, but only it SF agress to take the battleship memorial..


3 posted on 03/08/2007 8:07:58 AM PST by ken5050 (The 2008 winning ticket: Rudy/Newtie)
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To: SmithL

The city been pissing all over the Armed forces. They should get the 'Visquez' treatement.


4 posted on 03/08/2007 8:08:28 AM PST by AU72
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To: SmithL

The city will not assume responsibility for the site cleanup. Once they get it, they'll sue the Feds or petition the state for the $$.


5 posted on 03/08/2007 8:09:06 AM PST by hubbubhubbub
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To: SmithL

Why do I get a mental image of the Village People when I read that headline? :)


6 posted on 03/08/2007 8:09:41 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: SmithL

Take my advice SF, it's not worth it!
Tell the 49er's they are a private business, and private businesses don't get facilities built with public funds.
Take a stand.
Let the b*stards move if they think that's what they have to do.
Then you can develop your appreciation of college, or high school ball. You have great programs out there.


7 posted on 03/08/2007 8:10:10 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: SmithL

The Navy has agreed to consider the proposal, but only if they can first use San Francisco's Castro district for a 3 day Live Fire exercise.


8 posted on 03/08/2007 8:10:46 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: SmithL
And I bet the SF Mayor doesn't see the hypocrisy in all of this.
9 posted on 03/08/2007 8:11:00 AM PST by airborne (Rudy is nothing but a donkey in an elephant suit! HUNTER 2008!)
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To: SmithL
Mayor Gavin Newsom's office is pushing the Navy to transfer ownership of Hunters Point Shipyard in San Francisco...

I guess that his rehab is not going well. I wonder if Coulter added this 'faggot' to the list of people she can't talk about.

10 posted on 03/08/2007 8:18:50 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: SmithL

Reply from the Department of the Navy:

"Take a Dudley."


11 posted on 03/08/2007 8:18:51 AM PST by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: SmithL

"...provided that the Navy covers the costs"

Heh. Such a deal.


12 posted on 03/08/2007 8:18:58 AM PST by gcruse
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To: SmithL

Waterfront housing for retired and disabled vets perhaps....


13 posted on 03/08/2007 8:28:03 AM PST by colonialhk (Power and Money,the new mantra of the left!)
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To: theDentist
The Navy has agreed to consider the proposal, but only if they can first use San Francisco's Castro district for a 3 day Live Fire exercise.

Using nuclear weapons or is that just wishful thinking?

14 posted on 03/08/2007 8:28:48 AM PST by daviscupper
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To: brownsfan
Tell the 49er's they are a private business, and private businesses don't get facilities built with public funds.

They can move to Texas with Coamerica Bank.

15 posted on 03/08/2007 8:30:46 AM PST by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: daviscupper

Well, maybe as a 'closer'. I mean, that's just 1 shell, and we want our guys to have plenty of practice first. Sure, a lot of the Castro denizens may escape the shelling, but it is just an 'exercise'.


16 posted on 03/08/2007 8:33:43 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: SmithL
Okay, lemme get this straight. Close a naval facility so it can be converted into a professional sports arena.

Doesn't sound too bright.

Is this Rome? Cast off our military capabilities so the serfs can indulge in some bread and circuses distractions.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

17 posted on 03/08/2007 8:37:48 AM PST by JOAT
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To: daviscupper

Using nuclear weapons or is that just wishful thinking?



tactical nukes only please. There are some (a few) friendlies in the area.


18 posted on 03/08/2007 8:38:42 AM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: AU72
That was my first thought:  It takes a lot of f*cking nerve to ask.
19 posted on 03/08/2007 8:39:23 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (I'm holding out hope that at least the DEMOCRATS might accidentally nominate a conservative.)
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To: SmithL

Hunter's Point is all wrong for a stadium - nowhere near a freeway and with street approaches through the worst neighborhood in town. Unless the city is prepared to build a stadium futher north in Mission Bay (fat chance), the 49ers should loftily ignore this nonsense and press on to Santa Clara.


20 posted on 03/08/2007 8:41:37 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: SmithL
Eddie DeBartolo made a lot of money for San Francisco. Were the team still in Eddie's hands, I'd say go for it.

With Susan York in charge, having expressed no intent to make anything of a rotten team, let them move.

21 posted on 03/08/2007 8:41:48 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: SmithL

After how SF has treated the Navy, the Navy would really look like losers and loose respect if they turned around and did favors to SF.


22 posted on 03/08/2007 8:43:27 AM PST by Dante3
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To: brownsfan

The 49ers want out of the "queer" loving burg! They are moving!!! You should get your facts in line!


23 posted on 03/08/2007 8:43:28 AM PST by Blake#1
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To: SFC Chromey; daviscupper
tactical nukes only please. There are some (a few) friendlies in the area.

Yeah, the USS Pampanito is berthered at Fisherman's Wharf!

24 posted on 03/08/2007 8:46:25 AM PST by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Carry_Okie

Denise DeBartolo York?


25 posted on 03/08/2007 8:51:54 AM PST by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Blake#1

The 49'ers will move into the Valley. They will have better car and rail access, get any kind of stadium built by the wealthy valley dwellers and will remain the San Francisco 49'ers. Think of the New York Giants and New York Jets, hell they don't even play in the same state, let alone the same city. If the 49'ers were to move over to Reno, they might have a problem.


26 posted on 03/08/2007 8:53:04 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: SmithL
"Our primary objective is to expedite the cleanup and transfer of the shipyard so that we can create the public benefits the property holds, and one of those is the possibility of creating a stadium for the 49ers," said Newsom's base reuse director, Michael Cohen.

Let me see if I've got this straight... San Francisco/Newsom have a public employee whose job it is to aquire military bases in the city/county of San Francisco. Probably pay him $100,000 plus per year to write these memos.

Who do these people think they are? ... Congressmen?

Another absurd waste of taxpayer $$$.

27 posted on 03/08/2007 8:53:53 AM PST by Diver Dave
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To: JOAT
Hunter's Point is already closed. The Navy still has ownership of the property and has to continue with the cleanup of the property while it is undergoing/finishing the BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure) process.
28 posted on 03/08/2007 9:02:48 AM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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To: SmithL; Peanut Gallery; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
I'd like to see the headline:

Navy To San Francisco: DROP DEAD

29 posted on 03/08/2007 9:06:51 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Be silent, friend. Here heroes died to blaze a trail for other men.)
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To: SmithL; 4everontheRight; ABG(anybody but Gore); Abbeville Conservative; admiralsn; akorahil; ...

NFL PING



FReepmail scott says to be added to, or to be taken off the NFL Ping list...


This is a fairly high volume ping list

30 posted on 03/08/2007 9:08:25 AM PST by scott says
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To: theDentist
use San Francisco's Castro district for a 3 day Live Fire exercise

But geez, think of the toxic cleanup that would cause. Who know what diseases would be released into the air and ground...............

31 posted on 03/08/2007 9:08:43 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: SmithL
Without even reading this thread I am laughing out loud. The same SF that wants to kick all the recruiting offices out of town and off campuses, refuse the Missouri Battleship, that Navy?
32 posted on 03/08/2007 9:08:52 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: airborne
He's too busy shagging his assistant's wife to see the hypocrisy in anything
33 posted on 03/08/2007 9:09:19 AM PST by stop_fascism
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To: JOAT
Okay, lemme get this straight. Close a naval facility so it can be converted into a professional sports arena.

The decision to close was made some time ago. Probably independent of any such considerations, but one never knows what went into the BRAC process. (Base Realignment and Closing)

34 posted on 03/08/2007 9:09:23 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SmithL

A billion dollars to move some dirt around??? They say 'clean up' but all that means is that they move the dirt from one place to another. What other country would pay $1,000,000,000 to move some dirt?


35 posted on 03/08/2007 9:09:54 AM PST by Cruising Speed
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To: SmithL

>>>>So, the city that hates the Navy now wants favors from the Navy. How special is that? Maybe the Navy should suggest Hunter's Point as the new home for USS Iowa.

The proper DOD response should be two words: Sod Off.


36 posted on 03/08/2007 9:10:35 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (I hate Bill Maher.)
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To: SFC Chromey

Okay, surgical strikes with tactical nukes.


37 posted on 03/08/2007 9:10:57 AM PST by daviscupper
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To: SmithL

Good point.


38 posted on 03/08/2007 9:11:34 AM PST by daviscupper
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To: SmithL

This is the same San Fran that REFUSED to berth the IOWA?. The Navy owes them nothing. Tell Newsome to sit on it.


39 posted on 03/08/2007 9:11:41 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: SmithL
So, the city that hates the Navy now wants favors from the Navy. How special is that?

Very special, ed...

40 posted on 03/08/2007 9:11:51 AM PST by null and void ("If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong." - Charles F. Kettering)
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To: brownsfan

The 9ers are planning to fund their own stadium. They'd be happy to move to Santa Clara. It's the SF government that's having a fit, because they're worried about lost revenues.


41 posted on 03/08/2007 9:13:03 AM PST by stop_fascism
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To: SmithL
That was one of the suggested homes. But the libs don't want the Iowa in any way shape or form. I'm still holding out for Stockton but it doesn't look good.
42 posted on 03/08/2007 9:13:30 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (So many geeks, so few circuses.)
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To: SmithL

It's obvious that the mayor will do anything to avoid having the 49ers skip town on his watch. He's turned out to be such a weasel.


43 posted on 03/08/2007 9:14:21 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: AU72

What is Visquez? That saran wrap-like stuff at Home Depot?


44 posted on 03/08/2007 9:15:39 AM PST by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: Diver Dave

Let San Fran BID for this property in an OPEN ACUTION process, like everybody else....

Once cleaned up, this is MEGA-DOLLAR land!!


45 posted on 03/08/2007 9:16:01 AM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: SmithL

It's liberals who have made cleaning up contaminated sites hugely expensive and very time consuming. Tell 'em to shove it.


46 posted on 03/08/2007 9:17:28 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: SmithL
S.F. seeks Navy's help in effort to keep 49ers

Clear Hunter's point? Sure thing, Gavin.

Mission Accomplished!

47 posted on 03/08/2007 9:29:59 AM PST by Michael.SF. (In this (political) War, Republicans are gutless appeasers. -- Ann Coulter)
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To: SmithL

Why should the Navy do ANYTHING for a city in which hatred of all things military runs rampant?


48 posted on 03/08/2007 9:31:27 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: SmithL

" ... "

49 posted on 03/08/2007 9:33:18 AM PST by martin_fierro (</obscure Aliens reference>)
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To: SmithL

Also the USS Jeramiah O'Brian (a still functional liberty ship)is berthed in SF, though I am not sure which pier it is at.


50 posted on 03/08/2007 9:33:36 AM PST by Michael.SF. (In this (political) War, Republicans are gutless appeasers. -- Ann Coulter)
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