Posted on 03/02/2007 7:55:47 PM PST by nuconvert
The Negotiations Hoax
Talking with Iranand weve done plenty of ithas gotten us nothing.
By Michael Ledeen
A great hoax is being perpetrated on the world, the hoax of negotiations as an untried method to solve the Iranian problem. In fact, we have been negotiating with the mullahs ever sinceindeed even beforethe 1979 revolution that deposed the shah and brought to power the Islamic Fascist regime of the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. In the intervening 28 years, we have participated in countless face-to-face encounters, myriad demarches sent through diplomatic channels, and meetingssome on the fringes of international conferencesinvolving unofficial representatives of one government or the other. The lack of any tangible result is obvious, yet the chatterers, led by James Baker and Lee Hamilton, and cheered on by intellectuals, editorialists, and instant experts on Iran, act as if none of this ever happened.
The best discussion of the long, sad history of these failed negotiations is in Ken Pollacks The Persian Puzzle. Pollack was involved in many of these efforts, and firmly believed that, if only we found just the right formula, a deal could be struck. After all, the president of the Islamic Republic at the time, Mohammed Khatami, was a reformer, and appeared to be ready to resume better, and perhaps even normal, relations with the United States. To show our good will, we not only opened a channel of communications to the highest levels of the regime, but we made no less than nine significant concessions to the Iranians. We liberalized our visa policies, expanded cultural exchanges (including permitting our wrestlers to travel to Iran to participate in the world championships), we placed the Iranians bogeyman, the Mujahedin Khalq (MEK), on our official list of terrorist organizations, and we shamefully removed the Islamic Republic from the State Departments list of state sponsors of terrorism. We similarly removed Iran from the list of narcotrafficking governments and permitted American companies to sell food and medicine to Iranian purchasers. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright went to international talks on the future of Afghanistan in the hope she would be able to talk directly to Iranian Foreign Minister Kharrazi, and President Clinton himself delivered a speech in which he regretted past American actions with regard to Iran.
All this produced nothing. And, as Pollack notes, Iraqi oil was being smuggled through Iranian waters in open defiance of the embargo on Iraq. But the Clinton folks, convinced that a deal had to be possible, went even further. On March 17, 2000, Secretary Albright openly apologized to Iran.
The United States played a significant role in orchestrating the overthrow of Irans popular Prime Minister, Mohammed Mosaddeq...the coup was clearly a setback for Irans political development...the United States gave sustained backing to the shahs regime...(which) brutally repressed political dissent...the United States must bear its fair share of responsibility for the problems that have arisen in U.S.-Iranian relations...aspects of U.S. policy towards Iraq during its conflict with Iran appear now to have been regrettably shortsighted...
(Pollack says that the Iranians were particularly eager for an apology for the overthrow of Mossadeq, and I have myself from time to time been hectored by Iranians for this presumed malfeasance. Perhaps it shouldnt have been done, but I cannot for a moment believe that the fanatical clerics in Tehran are enraged by the removal of a progressive liberal. But I digress.)
All those gestures and concessions and giveaways got Clinton a rude awakening. Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei delivered one of his patented diatribes: What do you think the Iranian nation, faced with this situation and these admissions, feels?...what good will this admission (of supporting Saddam in the war with Iran)that you acted in that way thendo us now?...An admission years after the crime was committed, while they might be committing similar crimes now, will not do the Iranian nation any good.
(By the way, in her surrender speech, Albright created another myth, which has been elevated to holy writ in the Democratic Party Bible, namely that we favored Iraq in the war. Its a pretty amazing claim, given the quantity of arms and money and intelligence we showered on Iran in an effort to ransom our hostages. But I digress again.)
Pollack thinks that if Khatami-the-reformer had had more power, or more courage, the grand bargain might have been negotiated. But Khatami was powerless; real power resided with the Supreme Leader (there is a reason for that title), and Khamenei didnt want any part of a deal with the Great Satan.
Those who still dream of the grand bargainincluding those in the G.W. Bush administration who have pursued it avidly, and have gotten kicked in the same place as the Clinton pursuersmust explain to us simple souls why there is anything different today that might make a bargain with the Iranians more likely than it has been for the last 28 years. Certainly the Iranians have shown no desire for reconciliation; quite the contrary, unless you think killing Americans at a rate considerably faster than the tempo of murder in the Clinton years represents some odd form of mating dance. The Supreme Leader is the same fanatic as he was then, in terrible health to be sure, but no friendlier towards satanic negotiators. The only big change in Tehran personnel is the president. Instead of Khatami-the-Reformer weve got Ahmadinejad, Hitlers great admirer. I dont think that is an improvement.
If they were forced to answer these questions, the advocates of negotiations would resort to the hoaxwe havent tried negotiations, and its worth a try. But the real history of U.S.-Iranian relations suggests very strongly that the only possible winners in such talks will be the mullahs. They will gain more time to organize their war against us, and to build atomic bombs.
pong
we placed the Iranians bogeyman, the Mujahedin Khalq (MEK)
Well at least some good came out of it.
I think people in the West wish to forget about Carter. He's such an easy target. But, don't they remember what Iran did to the Americans that they held hostage? Do they think that the Islamic rule has relaxed any during this century?
Personally, I think we should IGNORE the Iranian president more. When he spoke at the UN the press went into a frenzy. It's almost like listening to Chavez or Castro.
Thinking that we should work with Ahmadinejad is like a slap in the face to Israel. Do we plan on remaining Israel's greatest defender on the world stage? If so, we should speak loudly in their favor. The world without Israel is a frightening thing to contemplate.
Thanks to Kermit!
For the life of me, I can't figure out the point of the President backpedalling on this.
BTTT
Okie. Ladeen does not want us to attack Iran. Doesn't want us in Iraq. Seem's Ladeen's ONLY solution to everything is DO NOTHING and wait for some magic event to happen and fix the problem.
Well Mike we have been following your dogma since 1979 with Iran. How has it worked out for us?
You mean the guy who was getting funding and support from the KGB back in 1953 Mike? Yeah letting Iran become a Russian Client state would of really helped their "Political Development" Look at all it did for Iraq and Saddam!
" Doesn't want us in Iraq"
Got a link to where he said that?
"Seem's Ladeen's ONLY solution to everything is DO NOTHING and wait for some magic event to happen and fix the problem."
Wrong. He wants us to fund and aid regime change in Iran like we have for other countries
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