Posted on 02/26/2007 12:37:32 PM PST by NormsRevenge
If bulldozers aren't "eco-friendly" enough, we can always hire some tree-spiking, SUV-bombing, dirt worshippers to come up with an environmentally sound way to reduce the buildings to rubble.
Could be... I don't know the inner workings of the Church of Climatology.
Would it be possible to find out these 10 scientist's monthly KWH usage? Then compare that to other homes in the neighborhood. As Jesus said : Lawyers, Liars, Pharisees, Hypocrites; you load burdens on OTHER men's backs but won't lift a finger to help.
There is of course nature's way of storing excess CO2 : limestone : CaO + CO2 = CaCO3. Thus bubble up hot, tiny bubbles of CO2 exhaust gas thru CaO(limewater)and you get ROCK. In Yellowstone Park that process has been going on for millenia, has any of these self styled geniuses ever noticed that? Or are THEY just full of hot air bubbles exuding from their own orifices?
Guess he's not (quite) as crazy as I thought.
Ping
You ever notice how the people "who care about the little guy" always seem to step on them in the name of political agendas?
Not the chief greenhouse gas, but the one responsible for the spike in global warming, according to the Team.
No skeptic I've heard of before denies that CO2 acts as a GG. Source?
Click pn POGW graphic for full GW rundown
Ping me if you find one I've missed.
Petit et al. (1999) reconstructed histories of surface air temperature and atmospheric CO2 concentration from data obtained from a Vostok ice core that covered the prior 420,000 years, determining that during glacial inception "the CO2 decrease lags the temperature decrease by several thousand years" and that "the same sequence of climate forcing operated during each termination." Likewise, working with sections of ice core records from around the times of the last three glacial terminations, Fischer et al. (1999) found that "the time lag of the rise in CO2 concentrations with respect to temperature change is on the order of 400 to 1000 years during all three glacial-interglacial transitions."
On the basis of atmospheric CO2 data obtained from the Antarctic Taylor Dome ice core and temperature data obtained from the Vostok ice core, Indermuhle et al. (2000) studied the relationship between these two parameters over the period 60,000-20,000 years BP (Before Present). One statistical test performed on the data suggested that shifts in the air's CO2 content lagged shifts in air temperature by approximately 900 years, while a second statistical test yielded a mean lag-time of 1200 years. Similarly, in a study of air temperature and CO2 data obtained from Dome Concordia, Antarctica for the period 22,000-9,000 BP -- which time interval includes the most recent glacial-to-interglacial transition -- Monnin et al. (2001) found that the start of the CO2 increase lagged the start of the temperature increase by 800 years. Then, in another study of the 420,000-year Vostok ice-core record, Mudelsee (2001) concluded that variations in atmospheric CO2 concentration lagged variations in air temperature by 1,300 to 5,000 years.
In a somewhat different type of study, Yokoyama et al. (2000) analyzed sediment facies in the tectonically stable Bonaparte Gulf of Australia to determine the timing of the initial melting phase of the last great ice age. In commenting on the results of that study, Clark and Mix (2000) note that the rapid rise in sea level caused by the melting of land-based ice that began approximately 19,000 years ago preceded the post-glacial rise in atmospheric CO2 concentration by about 3,000 years.
So what's the latest on the issue? To our knowledge, the most recent study to broach the subject is that of Caillon et al. (2003), who measured the isotopic composition of argon -- specifically, ð40Ar, which they argue "can be taken as a climate proxy, thus providing constraints about the timing of CO2 and climate change" -- in air bubbles in the Vostok ice core over the period that comprises what is called Glacial Termination III, which occurred about 240,000 years BP. The results of their tedious but meticulous analysis led them to ultimately conclude that "the CO2 increase lagged Antarctic deglacial warming by 800 ± 200 years." (emphasis added)
Those of us in the industry just smile when we hear the phrase "Green Energy"
"You ever notice how the people "who care about the little guy" always seem to step on them in the name of political agendas? "
Yes. I've come to the conclusion that no one cares about the little guy. In general, the Republicans will do less harm to the little guy.
How many coal plants is he asking China to not build?
We're pikers compared to China if we're building less than 200 of these beasties. I believe they've got plans to build more than 8,000!
I looked for a reference for that "8,000" and couldn't find that, but I believe I've read it. Here, though, is from
http://asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=274&Itemid=34
"Across the country, 500 new coal-burning power stations were under construction in 2005 and planners now assume that over the next 30 years half the worlds new power capacity will be built in China. "
There are many references stating that they are bringing LARGE coal plants online at the clip of about one per week.
I guessed it was Hansen just by reading the title.
You don't need a program for these players.
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