He can do the Can-Can?
Posted on 02/25/2007 4:17:02 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Just what ARE Rudy's qualifications that make him the "BEST man to lead as CIC?"
Please, I'd really like to know.
Do none of our other Republican candidates even compare to Rudy's superior military/war experience and knowledge?
BTW, I consider Dubya to be a veteran. Driving fighter jets is at least as dangerous as what I did.
but if we want to make a rating scale - good, better, best - clearly McCain was "ahead" of GWB in 2000, and someone like Colin Powell was far ahead of both of them, if we just wanted to add another name to the mix for the purpose of this discussion.
Good. I look forward to your being right and my being wrong.
That said, I would admit it would have been an advantage to have had McCain in the Oval Office (on this issue only!) because I think he would have overruled Rummy much sooner on jettisoning the "light footprint" strategy and getting enough troops in Iraq to handle a counterinsurgency, back when we had much more room to maneuver in Congress and in the polls.
He can do the Can-Can?
You're not listening...Rudy Giuliani won't split anything.
***The last three FR polls show Rudy splitting the base. You're not listening.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1782311/posts
He can't...he is what he is.
***He is a liberal.
A "split party" is a reaction to a primary loss by a band of people who didn't get thier way. Hence the term "sore loser".
***Whig party is more like it. If you guys can't learn from history and how the republican party was formed, then history will bypass you. By the way, it's the GOP that's leaving us, we're not leaving it.
The only way the party will be split is if the folks who don't get thier way in the primary opt out.
***Let's just say we're the Unicorn Admiration branch of the party, again. If we consistently see that Unicorn Admiration stuff is still on our platform but non-unicornian candidates have been calling us "sore losers" and "kool aid drinkers" and "party splitters" and "hillary voters" and the whole gamut, what do you think happens? The truth is that this here unicornian arm of the GOP commands some pretty impressive numbers, and we are all very reluctant to part with our unicornian belief systems. It's the non-unicornians who don't value their belief systems and can't see the big deal about a few dead baby unicorns or the right for unicorns to keep and bear UnicornArms or the traditional Unicorn values. The non-unicorn side of the party is a bunch of losers. Whenever the party loses an election they blame it on us because we don't fall in line with them. Whenever we win an election they preempt our values and say we're too extreme. And the non-unicorns are too dense to realize that they risk breaking up the GOP Permanently.
The candidate does not tell them to stay home...he does not say "I break with thee, I break with thee, I break with thee". Those "split" folks are the ones doing the splitting.
***No, but when the candidate accepts money from the Unicorn Hunters Association, and there's 30Million dead baby Unicorns and the unicorns are blatantly ignored by that candidate, he is ONLY trying to win the dumb Unicornian vote. But basically, we Unicornians have our own candidate and we're moving forward with him. This is a Unicornian website, so your candidate certainly making any brownie points by having his followers come here and talk down about unicorns, insulting unicornians, and ignoring dead baby unicorns. Why don't you guys go to the other non-unicornian websites and win converts there? I'm sure the left-wing non-unicornian side of the democrat party is very willing to hear your candidate's message.
My solution is this...we have the primaries...we support our candidates. We let the chips fall where they may.
***Agreed, and I look forward to your former mayor endorsing Duncan Hunter. Of course if it's anything like the way he endorsed the last few GOP candidates, it will be a speech full of left-handed compliments.
When the dust settles and the air has cleared and a nominee is picked, we support him or her (Condi?) because we're Republicans and we want Republicans to win.
***Good for you. Now, do yourself a favor and check to see if this is a republican website? Is it? Does the GOP pick up the check? Here, I'll help you with the answer: NO. So the next time you come onto someone's Unicorn Admiration Society website, try to learn a little bit of Unicorn before you start insulting them for not giving up their Unicornian beliefs. It's just plain polite -- and after all, the word "politic" comes from the word "polite". I am not interested in your liberal candidate. I'm sure you can find some liberals who would be.
Now I know some of you are saying "No, I'm a Conservative, I want Conservatives to win" Great...then you should go off and form your own party.
***Got that. We have been hearing it more and more lately. It's a numbers game from hereon in to determine whether or not we are welcome. If we aren't, and we form our own party, the GOP is doomed. Good luck with that.
Either that or you can accept the decisions the majority of folks within your current party make and then work to steer that party towards your view.
***Well said.
Abandoning the party is not working to change it.
***If anything, the party would be abandoning us.
Abandoning the party is setting fire to it so you can argue about how best to put the blase out.
***Very well said, except that your starting premise is invalid so your conclusion is wrong. Other than that I like what you say.
hispanics went 69% Dem in 2006. they'll go 90% Dem in 2008 if our candidate focuses on walls and forced deportations.
***Lawbreakers are lawbreakers, regardless of their heritage.
they want a veto power over the candidate selection.
***Prove it. That's not what I want. This is a socon website and rudy's trying to push his solib candidacy onto us, and he's starting to get shrill now that he's making no traction in the base. What I wouldn't mind is if the solibs set up their own solib website and pushed their own solib candidate in their solib echo chamber if that's what they wanted.
I would hope that we can't be silenced for a bone, or even a promise of an Escalade in every garage.
***The latest condescending attempt at throwing us a bone is to say that he would appoint constructionist judges. Honest. Even though he's appointed dozens of democrat judges according to Antoninus. So we're expected to trust him. Of course, rudy's definition of a constructionist includes Ginsburg, so what value is his promise to begin with?
Thanks. I didn't know that's what DNFTT meant. I often post BFLR and once, Sunken Civ responded with a picture of Ballet Flora La Rosa or somesuch thing. For the benefit of newbies, BFLR = Bump for later reading.
um, that someone else was me, and you didn't ping me when you were talking about me, which is ironic since you point out that it's the polite thing to do. If you can't see Hunter's immigration stance within 1 click on his website, you're just not looking and you no longer even fall into the PHIFOM (Put Him In Front Of Me) crowd.
Why don't you guys call the Viking Kitties on him?
Very eloquent, exceptionally well stated. Bravo.
I hope you don't mind if I copy & paste it down the line on some other posts.
There's an article posted now about this topic, thought it might prove useful.
The Looming GOP Rift: Will the Right Secede?
Self | 2/25/07 | Rudder
Posted on 02/25/2007 3:24:10 PM PST by Rudder
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1791057/posts?page=133#133
"Why don't you guys call the Viking Kitties on him?"
I think the "Man" is well aware of the troll and may be saving it for a boring day when the Kitties want something to play with?
Isn't that what rainy days and Mondays are for?
LOL..I think so.
On this issue you can bet the farm on it. Hillary still says "uh" every third word. She is one of the worst speakers I have ever heard. Giuliani can pull you into a story like a professional comedian. Compare his speech at the 04 Convention with ANY utterance of hers. HE has the speech impediment but she can't get her foot out of her mouth.
Giuliani does indeed hit 28.3% in the heart of the lion's den. He will probably move up another 20 basis points maybe, since maybe another 600 votes will come in, unless readership has dropped off. I was too "pessimistic."
Can he even do that? He seems out of step.
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