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Culture Warrior (Don't write off Giuliani's appeal to social conservatives)
Wall Street Journal ^ | Februrary 13, 2007 | BRENDAN MINITER

Posted on 02/12/2007 9:43:49 PM PST by RWR8189

The book on Rudy Giuliani is that he is too liberal on social issues to win the Republican presidential nomination. Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council, put it succinctly: "I don't see anyone getting the Republican nomination who is not pro-life and a staunch defender of traditional marriage."

But Mr. Giuliani is running strong in Iowa and New Hampshire polls and leading most national surveys of Republicans. He's charming crowds of conservatives everywhere he goes. So it's worth wondering if Mr. Perkins is missing an undercurrent coursing through conservative politics.

Republicans have just experienced a bruising midterm election defeat. The president is suffering dismal approval ratings, and its erstwhile front-runner for the presidential nomination, Sen. John McCain, made his national reputation as a "maverick." The Giuliani rise evident now may be more than name recognition and residual support from his stalwart leadership following the Sept. 11 attacks. Mr. Giuliani's support may also arise from his having successfully moved an entrenched political culture in New York City, something national Republicans have not been able to do in Washington.

(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: Carry_Okie

You'll have to show me how I've painted the opposition as shrill. tick tock


401 posted on 02/14/2007 8:04:38 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Spiff; loboinok

I still have not seen the qote, or a link to it, that you say exists where Rudy says good things about Roe v Wade.

I wouldn't like to think that you were trusting NARAL on that.


402 posted on 02/14/2007 9:20:42 AM PST by dervish (Rachel weeps for her children, she refuses to be consoled. Shalit, Goldwasser, Regev)
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To: dervish
Go HERE to see an official document from the Mayor's office wherein Giuliani commemorates Roe v. Wade and celebrates is constitutional protection of a woman's "right" to kill her unborn child.
403 posted on 02/14/2007 9:27:55 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff

Sorry, still not what you are claiming Rudy said.

Nowhere does the quote you have claimed (Roe v Wade is good law) appear.

Let me pose my own question - Is the difference I am drawing just semantic? No. It goes to the heart of the issue of strict construction of the Constitution, the issue I and others are focused on.


404 posted on 02/14/2007 9:40:09 AM PST by dervish (Rachel weeps for her children, she refuses to be consoled. Shalit, Goldwasser, Regev)
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To: Peach
You'll have to show me how I've painted the opposition as shrill. tick tock

No problem.

You're right with regard to the weenie men who go running to mommy crying "Mommy, mommy, help. They're supporting a Republican I don't like."

I've never seen anything like it before. Ever.

When I post those links, I'm posting for the lurkers knowing full well that the crybabies minds are made up.

368 posted on 02/13/2007 7:38:07 PM PST by Peach

There you go!

405 posted on 02/14/2007 7:13:48 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Carry_Okie

You think I've painted the opposition as shrill when I've posted that they should call their mommy for help? Gee, and here I thought I was painting them as cowards and weenies.


406 posted on 02/14/2007 8:32:03 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
You think I've painted the opposition as shrill when I've posted that they should call their mommy for help? Gee, and here I thought I was painting them as cowards and weenies.

You asked and I provided; and it wasn't difficult. So, when busted you fling a string. Such hypocrisy befits the liberalism to which you apparently aspire.

407 posted on 02/14/2007 9:23:29 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Carry_Okie

You think I've painted the opposition as shrill. No, I've painted them as momma's boys afraid of their own shadows.

They've called on Jim repeatedly because, gasp, I support and like a Republican they don't like. I've called them cowards, basically.

If you don't know the difference between painting the opposition as shrill or painting them as weenies, then I can't help you. But maybe a dictionary could help you. Try it.


408 posted on 02/14/2007 9:31:02 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
You think I've painted the opposition as shrill. No, I've painted them as momma's boys afraid of their own shadows.

A distinction without a difference.

You have two choices in supporting Rudy: either you really believe in the policies he prefers, or you think that he's the best that can get elected. In the first case you repudiate the bulk of the policies upon which conservatism stands; while in the latter you fear Hillary so much that you'll accept something less even though that social liberalism breeds the dependency upon which the Democrats construct their indentured constituencies. Frankly, I think it the latter, which is coincident with your artless projection.

They've called on Jim repeatedly because, gasp, I support and like a Republican they don't like. I've called them cowards, basically.

Sic semper miserere. You were the one who questioned why the owner of the forum tolerated those who would have preferred Rudy prove that he can win in New York before he proffered himself as presidential material.

If you don't know the difference between painting the opposition as shrill or painting them as weenies, then I can't help you. But maybe a dictionary could help you. Try it.

Yours is a truly pathetic attempted display of intellect.

409 posted on 02/14/2007 10:24:53 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Carry_Okie

If you'd said my post was shrill, that's open to interpretation.

But you said that calling men weenies was the same as calling them shrill. I can see that even a dictionary didn't help. Pity that.


410 posted on 02/14/2007 10:27:18 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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