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About 40 Israeli volunteers fight on the side of Serbs
http://www.shofar.de/volunteers-e.html ^

Posted on 02/09/2007 12:43:23 PM PST by kronos77

from Christopher Walker, Jerusalem

About 40 Israeli volunteers have been fighting alongside the Serbs as a gesture of gratitude for Serb support for Yugoslav Jews against the Nazis in the Second World War.

The existence of the Israeli fighters - they do not like the term mercenaries - was revealed by Ron Ben Yishai, an Israeli war correspondent who was injured by Kosovo Liberation Army sniper fire this week while reporting from the province for the Tel Aviv daily Yediot Aharonot.

The paper said that all the Israeli fighters had emigrated to the Jewish state from the former Soviet Union and were part of a volunteer unit, the majority of whose members were Russians.

Mr Ben Yishai quoted one of the Israeli volunteers, named only as Valery, who recently returned home after fighting in Kosovo for a month, as saying: "We decided to fight alongside the Serbs as a token of our gratitude for the assistance the Serbs extended to the Jews of Yugoslavia who were persecuted by the Nazis in World War Two."

The Israeli fighter said that another reason that he had joined up was "identification with the Christian Slavs' fight against the Muslims trying to take over Europe".

Diplomatic observers noted that, at an earlier stage of the Yugoslav crisis, many Islamic volunteers - including former members of the Afghan Mujahidin rebels who had fought against the Soviet forces - fought alongside the Bosnian Muslims.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: allybetrayed; antichristian; clintonlegacy; dhimmwit; holywar; ihoppy; islam; islamofascists; israel; jihad; kosovo; pancakeboy; serbia; toothlessdhimmi; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongtime; wrongwar
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1 posted on 02/09/2007 12:43:24 PM PST by kronos77
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...

Ping


2 posted on 02/09/2007 12:43:59 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

When?


3 posted on 02/09/2007 12:45:22 PM PST by SolidWood (Sadr lives. Kill him.)
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To: kronos77

The Serbs were our allies in WWII. Clinton treated them like garbage. Glad to hear this.


4 posted on 02/09/2007 12:47:51 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: SolidWood

1999


5 posted on 02/09/2007 12:50:03 PM PST by getoffmylawn (Greg Dulli will steal your girlfriend.)
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To: kronos77
"About 40 Israeli volunteers fight on the side of Serbs"

Bully for them!!

6 posted on 02/09/2007 12:50:39 PM PST by davisfh
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I was part of Clinton's grand Albanian adventure and, at the time, I didn't care, I followed orders. I would have happily killed Serbs. In fact, I am fairly certain I did so, although it is hard to know sometimes.

That said, it was badly run from the top, and so we were largely ineffective.

And I am rather happy about that now.

And rather angry at Clinton.


7 posted on 02/09/2007 12:53:01 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel, WOT

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8 posted on 02/09/2007 1:10:43 PM PST by SJackson (Let a thousand flowers bloom and let all our rifles be aimed at the occupation, Abu Mazen 1/11/07)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

"The Serbs were our allies in WWII."

So were Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia.


9 posted on 02/09/2007 1:10:53 PM PST by Revenge of Sith
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To: kronos77

One wonders if there were any Israelis alongside Mladic's boys when they put an end to that "Never again" thing the Europeans had going since the end of World War II.


10 posted on 02/09/2007 1:12:10 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Yes.


11 posted on 02/09/2007 1:19:21 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77
About 40 Israeli volunteers have been fighting alongside the Serbs

Good. The more the better.

12 posted on 02/09/2007 1:24:45 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: kronos77

I'd heard of Greeks and Russians, but not Israelis - do you have a source for that?


13 posted on 02/09/2007 1:27:02 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Alouette
*ping*

Machalniks in reverse!


14 posted on 02/09/2007 1:31:39 PM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy

About 40 Israelis fight alongside Serbs in Kosova (AFP)

JERUSALEM, June 10 (AFP) - About 40 Israeli men have been fighting alongside Serb forces against ethnic Albanians in Kosova, the Yediot Aharonot newspaper reported on Thursday. The Israeli volunteers, all recent immigrants from the former Soviet Union and ex-soldiers in the Red Army, fought primarily in mixed Russian-Serb units of the Yugoslav security forces, it said.

The newspaper's military correspondant, Ron Ben Yishai, said he encountered some of the Israeli volunteers during a trip this week to Kosova. He said the Israelis, some Jews but also non-Jews who married Jewish women and obtained Israeli citizenship, included veterans of fighting in Afghanistan and Chechnya.

http://www.alb-net.com/kcc/061199e.htm


15 posted on 02/09/2007 1:37:40 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: Hoplite

http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9906b&L=albanian&P=2669


16 posted on 02/09/2007 1:40:12 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

The article and you posted and recent link refer to Israelis fighting alongside the Serbs in Kosovo - I was asking about Israelis fighting alongside the Serbs at Srebrenica.


17 posted on 02/09/2007 1:47:56 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Meanwhile, the secret services of Ukraine, Greece and Israel were busy arming the Bosnian Serbs. Bob's Note: Thank God the Russian Ukranians, Greeks, and the Israelis still remember that their friends are Christians and their enemies are Moslems. Mossad was especially active and concluded a deal with the Bosnian Serbs at Pale involving a substantial supply of artillery shells and mortar bombs. In return they secured safe passage for the Jewish population out of the besieged town of Sarajevo. Subsequently, the remaining population was perplexed to find that unexploded mortar bombs landing in Sarajevo sometimes had Hebrew markings.
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/clintGon.htm


18 posted on 02/09/2007 1:48:06 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: Hoplite

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,688229,00.html

US used Islamists to arm Bosnians

He also reveals that the secret services of Ukraine, Greece and Israel were busy arming the Bosnian Serbs. Mossad, Israel's secret service, was particularly active, concluding a substantial arms deal with the Bosnian Serbs at Pale in return for the safe passage of the Jewish population of Sarajevo, the Bosnian capital, Prof Aldrich says.

"Subsequently, the remaining population who could not escape was perplexed to find that unexploded mortar bombs landing in Sarajevo sometimes had markings in Hebrew," he writes.


19 posted on 02/09/2007 1:50:07 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: Hoplite

You are the only one loony enough to support Jihad, Muslim irredentism and a greater Dar al islam


20 posted on 02/09/2007 1:54:42 PM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: dennisw
I think "Immortal" would make more sense than "Hoplite".

He's on the wrong side.
21 posted on 02/09/2007 2:22:10 PM PST by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: Revenge of Sith
"The Serbs were our allies in WWII."
..."So were Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia"

Not really.

Iran was very pro-Nazi during WW2, to appeal to Hitler, Persia changed its name to Iran, which in Farsi literally means "Land of the Aryans". The Soviet Union and Britain invaded and toppled the government of Resa Shah.

Iraq was a vassal of Britain. But showed it's true loyalties with a pro-Nazi coup, which was forcefully crushed by the British. And I'm pretty sure SA was neutral.

The Serbs on the other hand were the only people to openly resist Hitler before it was clear that he would be defeated. I'm convinced more then ever, that we bombed the wrong side in Kosovo.
22 posted on 02/09/2007 2:29:37 PM PST by Arabs only 600 years behind us (French out of France Now)
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To: kronos77

Allow me to restate the question - do you know of any Israelis who fought alongside Mladic's forces at Srebrenica?


23 posted on 02/09/2007 2:40:48 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: dennisw
You are the only one loony enough to support Jihad, Muslim irredentism and a greater Dar al islam

That's your opinion and you're free to express it.

That it flies in the face of 7 years worth of Bush Administration Balkans policy is for you to sort out.

Have fun with that.

24 posted on 02/09/2007 2:44:16 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: rmlew

Hoppy posts here for self justification reasons. To try and make himself feel good about his anti Serb activities in the Balkans. He helped the Muslims, I'm not sure in what way. He was prolly some kind of social worker or NGO type


25 posted on 02/09/2007 2:44:30 PM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: Hoplite

What exactly is your claim to fame in the Balkans? What did you do there that compels you to post here?


26 posted on 02/09/2007 2:46:10 PM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: dennisw
Yeah, that must be it, Dennis - I'm connected personally to the Balkans rather than just someone who grew disgusted enough with Serbian lies and accusations against American servicemen connected to Allied Force on this forum to take issue with it.

None of this is about me, Dennis, it's about you and your friend's inability to come to grips with the United States treating Serbia like a red-headed stepchild until Serbia straightens up and comes to terms with its actions under Milosevic in the 1990's.

For example, how's that Mladic extradition coming? Do you think that might affect America's policy towards Serbia and subsequently our policy towards Kosovo?

If it's easier for you to personalize the issue through me, rather than facing up to the answers to those questions, then you've also answered the question as to how worthy your opinion is in the first place.

27 posted on 02/09/2007 3:04:55 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Do you think America wants Mladic extradicted?


28 posted on 02/09/2007 3:21:20 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77
How hard would it be to, say, go to the US Embassy in Belgrade webpage and answer that for yourself?

Too hard, I know.

29 posted on 02/09/2007 3:32:46 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: dennisw
What exactly is your claim to fame in the Balkans?

Well, he is a very dedicated Dhimmi, you know.

30 posted on 02/09/2007 4:00:55 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Hoplite; kronos77
...do you know of any Israelis who fought alongside Mladic's forces at Srebrenica?

Srebrenica! Squawk! Srebrenica! Squawk! The Serbs deserve to die because of Srebrenica! Squawk!

And all because the Moslem "soldiers" turned and ran for it.

31 posted on 02/09/2007 4:04:13 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: kronos77
"We decided to fight alongside the Serbs as a token of our gratitude for the assistance the Serbs extended to the Jews of Yugoslavia who were persecuted by the Nazis in World War Two."

As opposed to Hoppy's Albanian heroes who were too busy forming their own SS unit to support the Nazis.

32 posted on 02/09/2007 4:07:11 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Hoplite; dennisw; Bokababe; kronos77; tgambill; joan; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; ...
Good evening Hoppy...


 

33 posted on 02/09/2007 4:09:32 PM PST by Smartass (The stars rule men but God rules the stars)
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To: kronos77
PEACE IS NOT AN OPTION

Amin Al Husseini seen inspecting his Hanzar Division made up exclusively of Muslims, mostly from the Crotia/Bosnia/Serbia region. They actively lead the genocide against Serbs, Serbian Jews and Gypsies.

Amin Al Husseini meets with Adolf Hitler in November 1942, weeks before the decision to implement the Final Solution which sent Europe's Jews to the gas chamber. The Third Reich provided Amin Al Husseini with a salary and appointed him Head of the Hanzar SS Division. The Hanzar Division was made of Nazi Muslims and implemented the genocide of 250,000 Serbs, Gypsies and Jews during WWII.

Amin Al Husseini shown here on a Nazi poster recruiting fellow Muslims to join Hitler in the fight against the West and the Jews. His disciples today include Yasser Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the leaders of Hamas, Al Qeida and Islamic Jihad.

Amin Al Husseini, future President of the World Islamic Congress (1961) and founding father of the Arab League (1944) inspects his Muslim Nazi troops, the Hanzar Division. Amin Al Husseini making the traditional nazi salute.

Yasser Arafat became a disciple of Amin Al Husseini since the age of 17. Here: recent picture of Palestinian soldiers under the leadership of Arafat making the traditional Nazi salute.

WWII . Amin Al Husseini spent most of the war in Berlin. He was on Hitler's payroll as he lead the Hanzar Division of Muslim SS and played a lead-role in determining the fate of Europe's Jewish community.. From Berlin, Amin Al Husseini helped organize the transfer of Nazi officers into the Middle East

Amin Al Husseini inspecting his Nazi troops, the Hanzar. Here, he is showing a young Muslim recruit how to use his rifle. Amin Al Husseini himself had been an officer in the defeated Ottoman Islamic Empire of World War I.<

34 posted on 02/09/2007 4:10:49 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Hoplite

Clown --- I thought you spent time in the Balkans "doing stuff" If this is true you sure don't seem proud of it. You are playing coy, why not brag about what you've done there? I'll listen


35 posted on 02/09/2007 4:13:00 PM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: dennisw
I thought you spent time in the Balkans "doing stuff"

I doubt you think much, and if this is an indication, when you do, the result is inevitably incorrect.

Clown

You aren't too good at the reading comprehension thing, are you?

36 posted on 02/09/2007 4:19:20 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Smartass

Marry me...
:)


37 posted on 02/09/2007 4:22:08 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: dennisw

How's about we just say he gives them "lip service?"

Yeah, that's right. He's in public relations, kinda.


38 posted on 02/09/2007 4:23:51 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: kronos77

Lol, only if you don't snore.


39 posted on 02/09/2007 4:28:01 PM PST by Smartass (The stars rule men but God rules the stars)
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To: Smartass

darn...
:)


40 posted on 02/09/2007 4:32:25 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77
An entire Serb community allowed themselves to be executed rather than give up two downed American pilots they were hiding from the Nazi's.

The Serbs were among the first outside of Africa to suffer an attempted Al Queda take over. Yet whose side does Clinton decide to take? Only a footnote was mentioned that the mass graves being screamed about by the Muslims were actually filled with the bodies of Serbs, who retaliated by giving as good as they got.

I don't see how the Serbs can ever forgive us for our treachery against them.
41 posted on 02/09/2007 4:35:00 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Hoplite; Bokababe; kronos77; tgambill; joan; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; ...
WHAT THE HELL SMELLS? A PITIFUL HOPLITE!


 

42 posted on 02/09/2007 4:38:02 PM PST by Smartass (The stars rule men but God rules the stars)
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To: MeanWestTexan
"I was part of Clinton's grand Albanian adventure..."

Nothing personal, I understand chain of command.

But the war against Yugoslavia (round one in the war for the establishment of a muslim europe)is about the instance in history that I'd have supported mass desertions and outright mutiny.

I've noted here before that I cut off communications with friends (retired USA) who went over as advisers or consultants in an assault on people who had been our allies at a time when being our allies was a death sentence.

(I've also noted that I have known - known, not just met - some of the bomber crewmen that were saved by Yugoslav partisans)

43 posted on 02/09/2007 4:39:22 PM PST by norton
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To: norton; MeanWestTexan
(I've also noted that I have known - known, not just met - some of the bomber crewmen that were saved by Yugoslav partisans)

Same here, a member of my church who passed-away only a year-and-a-half ago. One of the finest men I've ever known. He was pilot of a B-17 who was shot down and saved by the Serbs. Our war against the Serbs under Clinton was a moral obscenity which still taints us today.

44 posted on 02/09/2007 5:11:45 PM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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To: FormerLib

Sounds about right to me


45 posted on 02/09/2007 5:37:45 PM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: Hoplite

["...I was asking about Israelis fighting alongside the Serbs at Srebrenica."]

What's your point of proposing such a question? We both know what the answer is...don't we?





46 posted on 02/09/2007 7:12:29 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
We both know what the answer is...don't we?

42.

47 posted on 02/09/2007 8:14:06 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: dennisw

the lil shts comment about personalizing says enough about him, dennisw.


48 posted on 02/09/2007 8:40:32 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to Pristine. I want to see the "real terrorists", Former Marine)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic; Hoplite; tgambill

question to ask is how many Arabs, Chechnyans, American-Albanians, Cdn-Albanians, American/Cdn-Croatians, American/Cdn-muslims went over to fight alongside the Bosnian muslim Army? Then of those, how many committed ghastly atrocities?


49 posted on 02/09/2007 8:45:12 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to Pristine. I want to see the "real terrorists", Former Marine)
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To: ma bell

Do you know if Hoppy has spent time in the Balkans making mischief?


50 posted on 02/09/2007 8:50:33 PM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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