Posted on 01/22/2007 10:23:56 AM PST by kellynla
Congressman Dana Rohrabacher makes the Dixie Chicks sound like bosom buddies of President George W. Bush. Politics being politics, it's easy to dismiss the antipathy liberals have for Mr. Bush. But Bush has lost the support -- and even the respect -- of Mr. Rohrabacher. The California Republican is serving his ninth term and has a lifetime score of 95 from the American Conservative Union. He also has had it with a commander in chief who prefers surrender to being the defender of America's defenseless border with Mexico.
Rohrabacher said the minute two unjustly convicted men who had been Border Patrol agents turned themselves in to start their sentences last week was when he decided he'd no longer hold back any honest comment anymore.
"The nastiness in his personality had been in check until now," he says about President Bush. "Exposing it to the public is pretty disgusting. He has a callous disregard for those who place their lives on the line for us."
He's referring to the surreal plight of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean. They were Border Patrol agents until being convicted in federal court for essentially doing their jobs. Each faces more than a decade in prison. Their own government granted immunity in exchange for testimony to a Mexican drug runner who had a van with more than 700 pounds of marijuana when they confronted him in America. One agent shot him in the butt.
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And once they become legal,they will overwhelmingly vote for the Democrats.
He is not doing the GOP any favors with this.
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Which they were...do you have a point, other than an appeal is justified?
And Congress should be faulted for that. It doesn't excuse or legitimate an overzealous prosecution in violation of congressional intent though. My point all along has been that prosecutors have a great amount of unacknowledged discretion and power in producing a desired outcome in a case, regardless of the alleged crime's actual merits. For that reason, treating this prosecutor's word and judgement as an authoritative response to the defense is faulty. Both sides are biased in the matter, and a true neutral jury was not allowed because of constraints imposed on the choices of their vote.
Depends. If such a rule exists to incriminate somebody for using his weapon in a situation that requires its use but is subject to a similarly flawed prohibition on gunfire, then yes. It is.
Good point. If the policy was followed to the letter several Border Patrol Agents would been dragged to death by smugglers driving load vehicles.
after their appeals had been exhausted and the convictions were final. Name me one individual, outside of Nixon, who has been pardoned prior to a final conviction
after their appeals had been exhausted and the convictions were final. Name me one individual outside of Nixon who has been pardoned prior to a final conviction
Isn't it also true that all but three pardons President Bush has issued, came after the person had served their sentences? And, I might be wrong, but those three exceptions were commutations, not pardons.
There are plenty of versions of what actually took place when two Border Patrol agents, Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, tried to chase down a drug smuggler in El Paso. But, unless you were there; unless you were present for the fifteen day trial; unless you paid $6,000.00 to read the 3000 pages of transcripts; unless you spoke with their fellow officers; unless you saw the affidavits from jurors who claimed that they were bullied into going along with the conviction, you cannot appreciate the enormity of this outrage.
Marc Rich
I appreciate that, erton1. You are correct in noting that the sentences were within the federal sentencing guidelines. At this time it does not appear that those who believe Ramos and Compean did not deserve to be convicted in the first place, let alone convicted, will be swayed by large nor small facts in this case.
One thing I have also noticed is that the articles regarding this case have become more and more exaggerated. They are rampant with incredibly biased adjectives that serve to brainwash the masses. The story has been fluid from the beginning yet has held on to the same theme using Ramos and Compean as victims and using misleading headlines. The MSM loves doing that; because it works. If there is a conspiracy going on here, it very well could be the MSM's conspiracy.
It would be laughable if it wasn't so sickening how folks who normally can spot bias in the media and call the MSM to the carpet on it are now being sucked up in the MSM vacum.
They admitted on the stand that they shot him only AFTER it was proved they lied about it. Was he armed? Probably, but the fact that they not only lied but tried to cover it up is without excuse! They shot at him because he was running, why else would he be shot in the butt?
They covered up whatever they did! They obstructed justice!
Is it despicable that they allowed a drug dealing illegal amnesty to testify? Sure.
THAT DOES NOT EQUAL INNOCENCE FOR THESE GUYS!
Attempting to defraud the court/investigative body is equivalent to a guilty plea in many courts. It is listed in FRCP as cause for "summary judgment" in a civil case(the judge can declare that there is no need for a trial at all because the attempted fraud is basis for assuming that the defendant is lying about his other testimony). These guys are certainly guilty of something, and their activity proves it. It is not like they are pure innocent lambs who go to jail while the illegal Mexican gang-banging drug dealer goes free.
Congressional hearings, like thats going to happen with the Rats in control
I completely agree. I wish more people would let the appeals process work as it is intended to do. I think the emotional hysteria shown by some makes us look foolish.
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