Posted on 12/31/2006 9:33:43 AM PST by kronos77
After the 9/11, a worldwide “War on terror” begun in order to disband and neutralize Islamic terrorist networks across the globe. The main focus of the largest anti-terrorist campaign in history is focused in the Middle East area, as well as in Afghanistan. The Balkan Peninsula is the European area where this campaign has also taken place, with numerous arrests and a continuous effort into riding the fundamentalist out of the area. The question arising though, is how did the extremists gain a foothold in South Eastern Europe in the first place, and what was the reaction of the international community over the previous years.
So, the outbreak of the civil war in Bosnia-Herzegovina in 1992 presented an unparalleled opportunity for the international Mujaheedin to storm Europe, establish safe havens in the area and thus initiate re-conquest of regions they previously ruled. The leader of Bosnia, Alia Izebegovic was eager to obtain as much assistance as possible and didn’t hesitate in providing the necessary framework by which the Islamic ties were forged. In the same year, a variety of Islamic mercenaries flocked into the Balkans in order to support the “Holy cause”, meaning the establishment of the first Islamic state in Europe. The end of the war in 1995 saw quite a few of those mujahedin, acquiring Bosnian citizenship and establishing the first Islamic community in the village of Bocinja Donja.
"Ethnic Bosnian Muslim commander talks about Jihadist determination to kill "enemies of Allah" just before the attack on Pocjelovo. "It is a Jihad... and with even greater spark to kill Allah's enemies because today they are strong and pronounced as they have never been before"
video: http://www.serbianna.com/columns/michaletos/007_files/pocjelovo.rm
(Excerpt) Read more at serbianna.com ...
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/michaletos/007_files/pocjelovo.rm
video:
Ethnic Bosnian Muslim commander talks about Jihadist determination to kill "enemies of Allah" just before the attack on Pocjelovo. "It is a Jihad... and with even greater spark to kill Allah's enemies because today they are strong and pronounced as they have never been before."
Happy new year Hoppy!
Apparently Milosiveck (sp?) knew what was needed to protect his people. Too bad the PC crowd interfered.
These savages are like a bad smell, seeping in everywhere and using the idiots on the left- here and elsewhere- against us.
WAKE UP people before you, and we all, join the ranks of the dhimmi.
It would never have taken hold weren't it not for CLINTON who BOMBED THE WRONG SIDE! Thanks Bill Clinton. Perhaps if you weren't so busy pulling your wire in the whitehouse bathroom, you'd have taken the time to figure out what was really going on in the world, instead of acting unilateraly and bombing the innocent while the Islamic terrorists laughed.
btt
Depends upon how well the Radicals do in January.
If they win, you lose: both Kosovo, and the time it takes to unf*ck the mess they'll make of Serbia while in power.
If they lose, you just lose Kosovo.
Your choice.
At any rate, whatever you do, don't stop spamming Freerepublic with your habitual revisionist Serbian propaganda about their failed race war in Bosnia - without it we'd never make any sense of all those American troops we've lost in the Balkans to the jihadists.
Interesting point of view.
Wrong, dissconected from reality, but interesing.
And anwser to the question why no US soldier was killed by Jihadist on Balkan is simple:
US runned pro-muslim policy, with BJ Clintoon and his aid Weesley Clark using US soldiers as spearhead of Clintonista/Islamist interests on Balkans... and worldwide...
Here's the reality, sport:
The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim.
Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders, World Islamic Front Statement. Osama Bin Laden et al., 2/23/98
The key is not to try and change reality to fit your views, but to conform your views to reality.
Simply put, Serbian rhetoric in regards to jihadist activity in the Balkans is useless for anything other than confusing the ignorant and comforting die-hard Serb nationalists in their delusions.
The Islamic Jihad is an ever present event in the Balkans, it's been happening for the past hundred of years. Their last success was the destruction of Constantinople.
At least one A-10 pilot knew who the real enemy was!
"Earlier, reporters watched a NATO A-10 jet drop a bomb in the hills just over the Albanian side of the border crossing at Morini." ( I remember watching while this was happening! My immediate reaction was that we were bombing Albania!)"In that attack, an Albanian army officer told The Associated Press that NATO destroyed government bunkers by mistake." ( So he says! )
"Huge craters, the work of NATO planes, dotted the landscape along the border, CNN's Martin Savidge reported from the scene, along with bomb fragments bearing English inscriptions..." source
"Busted" Albanian Bunker
Milosevic aided Saddam
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,3847139-103558,00.html
Brits were ahead of the learning curve....Saddam gave oil to Milosevic too.....
They were good friends.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlContent.jhtml?html=/archive/1999/03/28/wkosa128.html
He calls himself Hoppy but is really just a Helot - a helot for the muslims. These guys can be unmasked in every historical era - Ephialtes for the Spartan Greeks, those who accepted the mohamedan cult betraying their own, 4th crusaders, weasely clark and his KLA palis, ad nauseum.
Did you notice how how postings are just gibberish...
True.
Clinton barred Serbia to by oil from legitimate sellers and Serbia was forced to go to tyrant bastard to buy oil.
just to compare:
If authoprities dissable you to by food from stores, malls etc, you will be forced to buy it on black market from thugs that you in normal circumstances despise.
P.S.
Why USA is buying oil from Saudi Arabia, when Saudis are major exporters of islamism/wehabbism in Europe and source of instabillity in region?
They were good friends.
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I saw photo of Donnald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Husein back in the 80es...
Yugoslavia and USA were supporting Saddams regime in 80es against Iran...
Alliances are strage liasons...
Newer he have valide links or evidences. Lately he went simpley offending people..
Oh, By the way. Happy New Year!!!!!
(In Serbia is 6 minutes to midnight, Im off to serious party!!!)
"I saw photo of Donnald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Husein back in the 80es..."
Oh, please show me the picture! Is that the one with Rummy and Saddam for a 90 minute diplomatic chat?
What did they discuss at that 90 Minute Chit Chat and Grip and Grin Photo? I'm sure Rummy spent quarter of that time trying to pass through security before he shook hands with Saddam.
Meeting time: 65 minutes and 3 seconds to finally sit down and talk face to face.
Big deal! I'm sure Jacque Chirac has more minutes and photos built up with Saddam even with security clearing the meetings.
"Yugoslavia and USA were supporting Saddams regime in 80es against Iran..."
You mean Tito's Yugoslavia. I guess that means we supported Tito's Regime?
"Why USA is buying oil from Saudi Arabia, when Saudis are major exporters of islamism/wehabbism in Europe and source of instabillity in region?"
I don't know? Oil speaks louder than Wabbabbism?
The Royal Saudi Family are afraid of the Islamic nuts who might assassinate them because they're not pure enough.
The Saudis don't have a real military. US is there to protect their interest.
Yes, USA supported Tito`s Regime.
from 1952-1959 Yugoslavia was member of Balkan Pact Yugoslavia-Greece-Turkey against USSR.
All of Yugoslav airbasess were built according to NATO standards (than), and camuflage of Yugoslav AF was made according to NATO paint scheme. All Yugoslav-made jets were armed by US-made missiles (AGM-65B Maverick)
During Iraq-Iran war Yugoslavia sold $30 bn to Iraq, with US blessing.
And the anwser about ties with Sadam you gave yourself.
"Oil speaks louder than hatenance toward dictator".
Serbia was forced to buy oil from Saddam and Khaddafi, for simple reason- we couldn buy it anywhere else, cause Clinton barred us to.
We are training their Military....SANG, advised by OPM-SANG. I was one of the security specialist tasked with providing security for their facilities after 1996 for three years. Also worked for Vinnell that trains the Saudi national Guard......what protects the Royal Family. Different and "separate" from MODA and MOI.....by mission and tribes even.......
They were shaking hands especially after we profited from the sale of Biologicals and Chemical weapons......
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0908-08.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1213-02.htm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/11/08/EDG6PKE1EG1.DTL
http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/wonderful/iraq.php
for example.......
More than simply helping Iraq unleash chemical and biological weapons against Iran, the US got even more involved, as William Blum wrote in 1998:
According to a 1994 Senate report, private American suppliers, licensed by the U.S. Department of Commerce, exported a witch's brew of biological and chemical materials to Iraq from 1985 through 1989. Among the biological materials, which often produce slow, agonizing death, were:
• Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax.
• Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin.
• Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord, and heart.
• Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs.
• Clostridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness.
• Clostridium tetani, a highly toxigenic substance.
Also on the list: Escherichia coli (E. coli), genetic materials, human and bacterial DNA, and dozens of other pathogenic biological agents. "These biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction," the Senate report stated. "It was later learned that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological warfare program."
The report noted further that U.S. exports to Iraq included the precursors to chemical-warfare agents, plans for chemical and biological warfare production facilities, and chemical-warhead filling equipment.
The exports continued to at least November 28, 1989, despite evidence that Iraq was engaging in chemical and biological warfare against Iranians and Kurds since as early as 1984.
Helping to arm a country engaged in a bloody war is fun, but getting your hands dirty yourself is even better. National Security Council staff member Teicher revealed that President Reagan and Vice President Bush did just this, directly involving themselves in the advising of Iraq.
For example, in 1986, President Reagan sent a secret message to Saddam Hussein telling him that Iraq should step up its air war and bombing of Iran. This message was delivered by Vice President Bush who communicated it to Egyptian President Mubarak, who in turn passed the message to Saddam Hussein. Similar strategic operational military advice was passed to Saddam Hussein through various meetings with European and Middle Eastern heads of state. I authored Bush's talking points for the 1986 meeting with Mubarak and personally attended numerous meetings with European and Middle East heads of state where the strategic operational advice was communicated.
While most of the arms and machinery America helped Saddam Hussein get his hands on came through intermediary countries, many others were direct from the US. Among them were more than 100 helicopters (some of which, the Los Angeles Times reported, were used in gassing the Kurds in 1988). William Blum also reports that: "U.S. companies sold Iraq more than $1 billion worth of the components needed to build nuclear weapons and diverse types of missiles, including the infamous Scud."
After the gassing of the Kurds came to light, the United States Senate unanimously passed sanctions against Iraq to cut off their line to US technology. The move was squashed by the White House, and among other internal reason given, declassified documents show that such sanctions would hinder American companies receiving "massive post-war reconstruction" contracts.
Indeed, the bulk of Iraq’s war machinery came from countries other than the United States, but they still came with the US seal of approval, and in many cases, direct US involvement. Teicher reported on this, too, in his ’95 affidavit:
"I personally attended meetings in which CIA Director Casey or CIA Deputy Director Gates noted the need for Iraq to have certain weapons such as cluster bombs and anti-armor penetrators in order to stave off the Iranian attacks. When I joined the NSC staff in early 1982, CIA Director Casey was adamant that cluster bombs were a perfect "force multiplier" that would allow the Iraqis to defend against the "human waves" of Iranian attackers. I recorded those comments in the minutes of National Security Planning Group ("NSPG") meetings in which Casey or Gates participated.
The CIA, including both CIA Director Casey and Deputy Director Gates, knew of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S. origin military weapons, ammunition and vehicles to Iraq. My notes, memoranda and other documents in my NSC files show or tend to show that the CIA knew of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S. origin military weapons, munitions and vehicles to Iraq."
In 1989, George H. W. Bush took office as President of the United States. His policy on Iraq, not surprisingly, followed directly in the steps of Reagan’s:
The Bush administration became a particular focus of criticism because it followed its predecessor in making strengthened U.S.-Iraq relations a key objective, despite the fact that the end of the Iran-Iraq war had eliminated a major rationale for this goal. A transition paper prepared for the new presidency outlined the conflicts that characterized U.S. policy toward Iraq. The paper recommended assigning high priority to U.S.-Iraq relations because of Saddam Hussein’s potential as a "major player," but reviewed persistent divisive issues, including Iraq’s chemical weapons use which "aroused great emotions" in the U.S., and its "abominable human rights record." These negative factors were contrasted with Iraq’s value as a market and its potential as a trading partner, and wit the fact that it shared an interest with the U.S. in containing Iran. The paper recommended that the new administration should begin with a high-level message calling for further development of political and economic relations.8
Secretary of State James Baker personally intervened to promote strong ties with Baghdad. A briefing paper prepared for a March 1989 meeting between Baker and Iraqi Foreign Ministry Under Secretary Nizar Hamdoon discussed Iraq’s active involvement in chemical and biological warfare and missile programs, and recommended stressing the sensitivity of Iraq’s chemical weapons use for U.S.-Iraq relations.9 Hamdoom and Baker discussed Iraq’s wish for medium-term Eximbank export credit guarantees, and Baker assured him that he would take a personal interest in the question. (The State Department later warned Baker that moving forward with the credits would be problematic, given strong congressional opposition to Iraq’s recent chemical weapons use.)10 In June, Baker wrote to Secretary of Agriculture Clayton Yeutter to ask him to increase the size of the CCC’s GSM-102 program by $1 billion, to solve a problem "that has consequences for both U.S. foreign policy and agricultural exports."11 Soon thereafter, the Agriculture Department informed the National Advisory Council on International Monetary and Financial Policies (NAC), an interagency group responsible for approving economic programs involving foreign countries, that Agriculture planned to offer Iraq $1 billion in export credit guarantees for FY 1990.
Eximbank guarantees were provided through the Atlanta branch of the Italian Banca Nazionale del Lavoro:
Banca Nazionale del Lavoro, relying partially on U.S. taxpayer-guaranteed loans, funnelled $5 billion to Iraq from 1985 to 1989. Some government-backed loans were supposed to be for agricultural purposes, but were used to facilitate the purchase of stronger stuff than wheat. Federal Reserve and Agriculture department memos warned of suspected abuses by Iraq, which apparently took advantage of the loans to free up funds for munitions. U.S. taxpayers have been left holding the bag for what looks like $ 2 billion in defaulted loans to Iraq.
Leave Hoplite alone. It is his tactics.
main subject of this article is video of Muslims in Bosnia declarinh "Holy war" against Christians, and he is deniying that ever hapened.
He just wants to distract our argument from real subject:
genicidal Muslims.
Happy new year everyone!
You are well on your way to reveling in living on your knees.
tgambill,
That's a myth. I can find facts and figures about France, Germany and Russia who sold Saddam BC technology too.
You are probarly using chemicals and biological agents in your own home right now and you don't even know it.
I'm sure we sold Saddam's Regime chemical and biological agents just like any other country did.
But I'm going to argue an old point.
"Guns don't kill People....people kill People"
And that can be apply to use of chemical and biological technology.
Do you know we use chemical and biological technology in our argricultre and medicine?
You need anthrax vaccinations for your lifestock to protect them from anthrax which is very common in arid regions of Iraq or use pesticides to protect your crops from bugs that will eat everything you plant in arid regions.
Botox is in medicine to help stroke victims or for treatment from overactive sweat glands. In large doses it's a poison.
Next time your caught up at the train crossings...check out the containers. How many different chemicals are being shipped in special containers to companies who make cleaning products?
If the train jumps its tracks...we have an enivornmental disaster on our hands because clorine burns your skins, lungs and eyes.
Mustard Gas is made from Clorine.
If Saddam acquired all his chemcials and biological agents then he is responsible for weaponizing these weapons not the world community.
If you watched FoxNews during Saddam's hanging. It was interesting. Saddam's lawyer said Saddam was not responsible for the Kurdish death. Iranian were using chemcial weapons too.
If you check out United Nation Resolution back in 1988 they did not say Saddam killed the Kurds. Only thing they said in the UNRES was chemical weapons were being used during Iraqi-Iranian war.
The UN did not place sanctions against Saddam back then only after the first Gulf War. UN told the world community to police themselves and restrict certain types of technology.
I don't think sanctions would allowed to go through because Russian and China who belong to the UNSC would vote no on it. Russia was a big supplier of military equipment...including China.
tgambill,
Here's interesting reading.
Find out who sold Saddam the most.
He acquired everything from around the world.
Bowling for Columbine? You can't be serious. You going to believe Michael Moore?
Wisconsin Project Publications on Iraq's Suppliers:
Date Article
04-13-03 The Means to Make the Poisons Came From the West Graphic
03-24-03 A Vile Business
09-15-02 Psst ... Can I Get A Bomb Trigger? (476K)
10-01 Commentary: Letters from Readers - Scott Ritter's Letter and the Project's Response
07-01 Shopping with Saddam Hussein
06-18-01 UN Sanctions Didn't Stop Iraq from Buying Weapons
03-19-01 Technology Two-Timing
12-13-99 Saddam's Shopping Spree
07-18-93 Who Armed Iraq?
04-26-93 Iraq's Bomb - an Update
06-04-92 Iraq's Bomb, Chip by Chip
12-22-91 How Western Greed Created Hussein's Iraq
06-25-91 Military Export to Iraq Come Under Scrutiny
06-20-91 US-Approved Exports May Have Aided Iraqi Army, Says Report
06-20-91 Study: Commerce Dept. Aided Iraqi Arms Buildup
06-91 Licensing Mass Destruction
03-91 Iraq and the Bomb
11-29-90 Better Nuclear Prevention than Cure
07-29-90 Must the U.S. Give Brazil and Iraq the Bomb?
http://www.iraqwatch.org/suppliers/index.html
I tremble, nay, absolutely quake with dread.
No doubt you have a PhD in Drama Queenery or some other such mark of distinction with which to try and impress me with.
I thought you held the only such degree granted, Dhimmi?
good points. I would agree, in most cases. I am aware of the military industrial complex that has a specific agenda. We financed and had a major role in the Bolshevik revolution and putting the communist in power, our military industrial complex was largly responsible for supporting with money and materials to get Hitler started and the his machine going throughout the war.......the same for Castro, Milosevic with recruiting...etc.......
The Military Industrial complex, although organized through the Counsel on Foreign Relations (A front organization) and the RIIA in England, they promote and instigate wars for profit. This is factual......they play both sides of a conflict to make sure the conflict happens.......so, in this case, it's a special strategy.....
your examples are good reading and will work well for future study, thanks. I know that in Desert storm a warehouse was bombed that contained nerve agent sold to Saddam by one of our companies.....and it exposed about 100 Army troops downwind. The intell was askewed and wasn't aware of this..........
L
nice duk pictures.........:) poetry in a photo.....yep.
They're loons.
L
wow...you sold your soul, amazing. The reality is, we fired things up after the soviets left Afghanistan. We sent up to 10,000 trained Jihaders to cleanse the Serbs from Bosnia and stir up trouble. Milosevic just got stupid and allowed his paramilitaries free reign. However,
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-intro.pdf
http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/mem.htm
This one is replay of what I observed in Kosovo from 1999 to 2004, as I got the reports of one village after another being abandoned because the "Black Eagles" (Albanian terrorist group) would murder one or two in the village and the residents moved......more than once.
http://emperor.vwh.net/sreb/un-massacred.pdf
:)) i do declare, lurkker, you got uh'picture of loons that one culd frame.... I know dat thar are sum foks that luv...ducks...but, it might appear that you culd luv a loone, naw thats kinky....ouuuuuuu weeeeeeeeee. A little spashing in warter are ye....
I wrote this so as you could read it....lolol...:))))
Nice site......this is appreciated. Gives very good references.
http://www.iraqwatch.org/suppliers/USapproved.htm
That agenda is 'making money.'
We financed and had a major role in the Bolshevik revolution
Bullsh**.
our military industrial complex was largly responsible for supporting with money and materials to get Hitler started
Double bullsh**.
the same for Castro
Triple bullsh**.
This is factual......
Only in the minds of raving lunatics.
L
Glad you like the site.
It's not only the United States who armed Saddam but the World Community too.
Try to Remember that.
We should of done something to Saddam back in the 1990's while Clinton was in office. Containing Saddam in a box with UN Sanctions did not work because the man was able to work outside the box.
Saddam did not allowed any aid to go to his people but manage to get weapons from other sources like trading oil for weapons from the Serbs. Since the Serbs became the bad guys under the Clinton Administration they had to supply their men with weapons some how.
Saddam was using his people as political pawns. 600,000 Iraqi children died under UN sanctions because they did not have food or medical care.
UN gave humanitarian aid to Iraq but they never recieved it. Saddam resold it to finance his war machine right under Clinton's watch.
Clinton caused more recruitment for future Jihadist because our foriegn policy actions or inactions.
Just take a look at OBL's 1996 Fatwa. He blames the United States for the Iraqis misery and causing grief for Arabs. Our planes were based on Saudi Arabia and we were flying NFZ patrols.
US and UK were in a full scale war according to OBL. I didn't hear too much about this on the main stream news and it was a great shame.
If I knew what was going on I would write to my congressman to solve the humantarian crisis in Iraq without Saddam.
Did you know those NFZ's were illegal from the start? Two members of UNSC - China and Russia did not agree to the NFZ's.
I think the United States should of went into Iraq early to set up humanitarian aid stations in the No Fly Zones to take care of the civilians. This way we should able to by-pass this corrupt Regime and Saddam wouldn't be building UN Palaces for Oil.
UN Sanctions didn't work back then and they don't work now. Clinton had his priorities mixed up and now we are paying for it with US service members being killed everyday in Iraq.
To tell the truth when Clinton went into Kosovo...I didn't know what was going on. I think the Kosovo conflict was a Politically Correct war.
People who supported the Clinton Administration fighting the Serbs thought KLA was dismantled by Madame Albright's leadership.
KLA just went underground to get rid of the Serbs with US and NATO help. Since then KLA has re-emerged to help the Islamic movement worldwide. They have a very profitable gun, drug and sex trade going on in that region.
We will pay for it later.
Lurker,
Your saying my posting companion is loony?
You are the raving BS lurker. Mainly because you people offer very limited and mind restrictive answers...lolol..descrptive of your family backgroud and heritage. I love it when you clowns come back with virtually no background, facts, or supporting evidence. It gives the truth a soapbox on which to proclaim over your lies and deceit.
It's called......Slamdunk........clown...:)
And the followers of Muhammed (including the KLA) want us all dead, too!
Good post....I was in kosovo from 1999 to 2004, actually It was my only home that time. I was security chief for the eastern region in Kosovo the entire time.
We had an agenda to break into the Balkans since 1948, witht he Balle Kombetar movement, revivied from the days of the Nazi invasion and link up with the Albanian nazi divisions that formed to kill Serbs and jews. Frank Wisner Sr was a part of the Operation Fiend to continue the campaign. It was part of the Military Industrial Complex to squeeze into position for many reasons to include the oil reserves in the Caspian, as only one of many reasons. Independent Kosovo was always the goal of the U.S......per quotes by Holbrooke and strategy for decades. We helped to fuel the break up starting in Croatia and Bosnia by bringing 10,000 + Jihaders from Afghanistan working with ISI, Iranian Intell, Saudi Intell and Turkish Intell heading to Kosovo. We used exaggerations and fabrications to justify our shadow campaign. You are correct, we covertly allowed the Albanian terrorist to cleanse the Serbs from 1999 to present as of now...and there are sinister plans for March 2007....big action yet to come.
I appreciate the links for sure concerning the role the world communities played.
yep....that be me he is talking about, now you.
per my last post, no sooner than I wrote than the lastest.....
http://www.serbianna.com/news/2006/02922.shtml
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1761255/posts?page=3#3
correction.....yep....that be me he is talking about, not you.
per my last post, no sooner than I wrote than the lastest.....
http://www.serbianna.com/news/2006/02922.shtml
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1761255/posts?page=3#3
Ahhh yes. The omnipotent "THEY".
L
:) It's obvious that you have a long way to go and way out of your league. Buckle up bucko....you're in for a rude awakening. lolol...:)
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