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1 posted on 11/28/2006 10:11:16 AM PST by steve-b
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FREERIDER ping!


2 posted on 11/28/2006 10:13:51 AM PST by Allegra (Declaring Full Jihad on the Cut-and-Run Surrender Monkeys)
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She is now infuriated by what she calls "that Mother Right" -- the assumption that everyone will make way for a woman with a stroller or a child in tow....

She sounds like she has "issues".

3 posted on 11/28/2006 10:13:53 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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It takes my breath away, yet why do I feel the need to apologize for my reply? Looking vague and embarrassed, my questioner glances over my shoulder for someone else to talk to: someone with whom he or she has more in common, someone with children....

I'm sorry about your personal problems, honey.

4 posted on 11/28/2006 10:15:20 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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ZPG whackos ping.


6 posted on 11/28/2006 10:16:05 AM PST by XR7
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Quite frankly, we don't want people like this propagating anyway.


7 posted on 11/28/2006 10:17:16 AM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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Just as some women talk of a visceral urge that propels them to have children, others speak of an equally visceral urge that propels them not to.

Some people are more wrapped up in their own lives to think about caring for another. Why should these people be upset that society values mothers who are willing to raise the next generation of outstanding Americans?

8 posted on 11/28/2006 10:17:37 AM PST by MovementConservative (Getting back to principled conservatism.)
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She is now infuriated by what she calls "that Mother Right" -- the assumption that everyone will make way for a woman with a stroller or a child in tow....

Take it up with Nature, lady. Should people apologize for being mammals now?

9 posted on 11/28/2006 10:17:58 AM PST by Wormwood (Self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly - Ronald Reagan)
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She's wrong too, there is no "Mother Right".
There's the "Mother Privilege", that the rest of us almost always grant to a mother when we see her struggling along with infants in tow, baby carriage, etc. That's no more a "right" than getting out of the way for somebody carrying an obviously heavy and uncomfortable package, or letting somebody who is obviously old and tired have a seat on the bus. The package guy and the old lady don't have a RIGHT to be deferred to, but civillized people do it, because hey, there but for the grace of God go I (or, in the case of the old lady, whither there est all of us, if we're lucky).

It's not a matter of rights.
It's called "People being nice and compassionate".
Jeez.


11 posted on 11/28/2006 10:18:40 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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She's no spring chicken:


13 posted on 11/28/2006 10:20:41 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Well sometimes when women (or men) don't want to have children, it's often due to selfish reasons. They'll get fat or they won't be able to spend all of their money on themselves. Meanwhile, birthrates drop. Some countries are beginning to face crisises due to low birthrates.


14 posted on 11/28/2006 10:20:47 AM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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My husband and I have struggled with becoming pregnant, and when someone asks (rudely!): "Why don't you two have children yet?" it makes me want to hurt them.


16 posted on 11/28/2006 10:21:42 AM PST by arizonarachel (Lord, THANK YOU for this miracle!)
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While I have sympathy for her problems regarding the stillbirth, I find most of her other laments and complaints to be uniformly odious.

She apparently is now obsessively, zealously childless. This seems as empty and dimensionless as the 'designer parents' she decries.

Frankly I might share some of her opinions, but she couches them in such terms that I'm glad I never have to spend time in an elevator with her. It seems to be a lot of estrogen-induced navel gazing.

17 posted on 11/28/2006 10:22:14 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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People who don't want kids shouldn't have them; both they and the rest of us are better for that. Having said that...

But almost all the women I've talked with describe feeling acutely aware of what they see as our national obsession with motherhood.

There is no "national obsession with motherhood." There is an irritating increasing trend toward whiney victimhood, among the exhibitionist childless and, for that matter, lots of other groups.

21 posted on 11/28/2006 10:24:44 AM PST by untenured
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No plans for kids with us. Getting too old anyways.
Some of us just are not meant to be parents.
Of the four of us siblings, only one brother had kids. My sister and my other brother never did.

Kids are like cops, I dont hate 'em, I recognize we need 'em, I just feel better when they aren't around.

I dont mind paying taxes for others kids, I donate to charities that benefit kids. I see co-workers get out of work duties playing the kid card. But so be it.


23 posted on 11/28/2006 10:25:11 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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She does address a very real issue that our society is very reluctant to address. Frankly, the women who should be having children--those who have the means to care for them, who have met success in life and could engender this spirit in their children--simply aren't having kids.

Meanwhile, welfare mom who sits at home pumps out 5 or 6.

This is not a model for success. The Me-Me-Mes (especially in urban areas) are a large reason Europe is going extinct.


30 posted on 11/28/2006 10:26:55 AM PST by CheyennePress
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To properly parent a child requires tons of time, patience and common sense. It seems reasonable that some may not want to make that commitment. Better not to have them than to let them run wild.


31 posted on 11/28/2006 10:28:21 AM PST by pa mom
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Looks like something moody Moroon Dowdy would write.


33 posted on 11/28/2006 10:28:48 AM PST by Ilky Hucktar
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I'm glad that people who don't want children aren't having them. As long as they're not killing their unwanted children, that is. What I hate is the attitude some of them have that they're morally superior to other people because they don't have kids. I grew up as the oldest of seven and oh! some of the comments my parents recieved. My favorite was the time the grocery store bagger told us (there were only five of us at the time and I was 9) that "your mommy has rocks in her head".


34 posted on 11/28/2006 10:29:13 AM PST by JenB (43,604/50,000 - www.nanowrimo.org)
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The topic is a good place to toss out a rant.

I met a distant relative at a family gathering, after a very brief conversation, the topic turned towards children, specifically me answering that we didn't have any after 15 years of marriage.

This idiot would not let the subject go, like not having children is some sort of deficiency that neeeds correcting.

In case this isn't commone sense to everyone: If you meet someone thats been married a long time and discover they don't have children, either:

a) they don't want children and there's nothing you can do to change that so drop the subject. or

b) they can't have children and its probably a very touchy subject so you should drop it.


35 posted on 11/28/2006 10:29:23 AM PST by NOLA_homebrewer
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Hi All-

I dearly love my assorted nieces and nephews and I'm a "favorite" to them...and I just don't wish to have children of my own. The number of people who are rudely inclined to ask why is simply outrageous.

~ Blue Jays ~

36 posted on 11/28/2006 10:29:28 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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