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NASA looks at plan to blot out Sun
The Sydney Morning herald ^ | November 20, 2006

Posted on 11/20/2006 7:58:13 PM PST by chemical_boy

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To: Paleo Conservative
Wouldn't it be cool if a system of mirrors like that could be used to light up large areas on the Earth at night?

And if they had the proper parabolic curvature, they could be used for (ahem!) "heating" certain smallish areas of the earth's surface. Let he who hath ears to hear....

41 posted on 11/20/2006 8:55:48 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: annelizly

oh but embryonic stem cells will cure all of that in a month or two. Montana surely has some cures forthcoming.

Maybe we could shoot a bunch of stem cells into the air to solve global warming as well?


42 posted on 11/20/2006 8:57:24 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: ApplegateRanch
Personally I'd be more worried about taking out someone's star system.....some ideas are best left alone.....
43 posted on 11/20/2006 8:58:13 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
didn't we spend the last few decades trying to get all the evil particulate pollution OUT of the atmosphere? And now they're want to put it all back???

The problem was that it was IN the atmosphere, rahter than above it.

Just think of the money Jersy Democraps & union thugs could get out of this by sending up the garbage. NOBODY could find the landfill bodies then.

44 posted on 11/20/2006 9:02:32 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: chemical_boy

If we had had the good sense to do what Dr Gerard K. O'Neill et al suggested around the time of the U.S. Bicentennial we would RIGHT NOW have a large scale orbital manufacturing infrastructure supported by lunar resource bases already building L5 colonies and solar power satellites...and IF so-called 'global warming' turned out to be a REAL problem it would be little trouble to retask the manufacturing efforts from building more L5 colonies to building additional solar power satellites @ Lagrange 1 where they could not only be used to reduce insolation, which would help any global warming effects if any REGARDLESS of whether such are natural or human origin as presently hotly debated, but would also be able to generate enormous amounts of extra energy as a result...yes we might have to delay moving humanity off the planet [which is the REAL solution to any human caused global 'environmental' problems] for a few extra decades but we'd have enormous amounts of extra energy [and therefore vast surplus industrial capacity if we planned it right] when we did.

Instead we didnt bother to TCB for the Future's sake so now IF there is global warming [and not merely microclimate warming from increased urbanization] then regardless of whether it's man made or natural [insolation variance or other] we don't have the extraplanetary assets to do much about it...

...but hey we've got laptop computers and Tivos and Playstations and cellphones in 2006 instead of L5, SPS, Helium-3 fusion and microgravity manufacturing...

...brilliant choices there Homo sapiens...posthumous Darwin award coming?


45 posted on 11/20/2006 9:03:02 PM PST by FYREDEUS (FYREDEUS)
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To: no-to-illegals

"something of such a scale is only imagined....
never to be???"

...said the mud hut builder to the pyramid engineer...

Fortunately the pyramid engineers didnt live in the 1970s and Pharoah hadn't been conned by "Limits To Growth".


46 posted on 11/20/2006 9:11:27 PM PST by FYREDEUS (FYREDEUS)
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To: chemical_boy

-PJ

47 posted on 11/20/2006 9:17:27 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: FYREDEUS
building L5 colonies and solar power satellites

Subterranean colonies are just as important and maybe cheaper and easier to get to. It should be possible to build a colony deep underground that gets all its energy from the Earth's nuclear powered molten core and not have any cares about the surface.

48 posted on 11/20/2006 9:28:19 PM PST by Reeses
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To: Cinnamon

Wait till all the lawyers get a hold of this one. All the people who were getting an advantage from a warming earth would sue the he** out of NASA!


49 posted on 11/20/2006 9:31:00 PM PST by winner3000
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To: no-to-illegals

it depends on how quickly you 'need' to do it...that's where the Hollyweird movies like Armageddon get it wrong; they postulate an incoming big rock so close it would have to be deflected in such a short time it would be practically impossible for us to deflect it even with nukes [Sorry Bruce]...but if you are dealing with a rock far enough out that you have plenty of time then even a small nudge would be sufficient to either stop it from hitting Earth or conceivably make it do so eh? less specific impulse but for a much longer time works when the required degree of deflection is much smaller eh?

In which case stationing a mass driver on the asteroid could do it...

Though I think whacking the earth with another dino-killer would be a worse 'cure' than the 'disease' of global warming could ever be...however the same techniques could be used to move a near earth object...say one of the apollo asteroids?...into earth orbit for use as (a) life support resources to support large numbers of people in orbital operations [if a carbonaceous chondrite type] or (b) for metals for orbital industrialization [if a nickel-iron type] or better yet (c) both types for both purposes...and those would then also make a nice counterweight for building a synchronous skyhook [space elevator] as well as the cc typoe supplying the carbon to build the nanotube ribbon from orbit to the surface [nanobot manufactured down to the surface in one continuous piece to get around the recent join strength concerns perhaps?].


50 posted on 11/20/2006 9:31:18 PM PST by FYREDEUS (FYREDEUS)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

I think it was the plot of the last Highlander movie, too.


51 posted on 11/20/2006 9:34:05 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: chemical_boy

Remember when eco-wackies warned against the dire effects of nuclear winter? Now they might almost think it was a good thing. Perhaps this explains why the left wants Iran to have nuclear weapons.


52 posted on 11/20/2006 9:37:36 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Brought to you by Rovian Department 666: Conspiracies, Cover-ups and Dirty tricks.)
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To: Larry Lucido; speedy; Joe 6-pack; Calpernia; tiamat; Southack; Aeronaut; Pukin Dog; ...

Don't overlook all the heat created to LAUNCH this monstrosity. A million cows mulching a million munches of methane would do less harm, moothinks.


Oops. Methinks.

No, moothinks, after all.




53 posted on 11/20/2006 9:38:31 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: chemical_boy

I wish I had that shot from Apollo 13, where Tom Hanks blocks out the moon with his thumb (while somewhat drunk on champagne).


54 posted on 11/20/2006 9:38:57 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again. And Always Act.)
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To: Tench_Coxe

Sure would be - but then that idea is 30 years old and TPB didnt want it then even at the height of the [phony] "energy crisis"...hmmmmm...

And you'd have received less irradiation flying in a jet through a solar powersat microwave beaming megawatts of perfectly 'green' power to it's Earthbound rectenna station than people living in Denver or next to a powerline or than we find acceptable from cellphones...oh wait the "nervous nellies" get scared of those last two too...


55 posted on 11/20/2006 9:39:22 PM PST by FYREDEUS (FYREDEUS)
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To: devolve; The Spirit Of Allegiance
Moothinks may be quite appropriate!


56 posted on 11/20/2006 9:42:17 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

57 posted on 11/20/2006 9:44:04 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: potlatch; nickcarraway; weegee; bitt

Hmmmmmm. I think any detrimental impact on our polar ice caps would be worth the tradeoff in preserving Liberty, so where's the Monty Python trebuchet now that we need it?


58 posted on 11/20/2006 9:45:41 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: rbg81; DaveLoneRanger
Wouldn't it be fitting if this kludge backfired and plunged the Earth into a new (permanent) ice age? Your tax dollars at work.

That's what these morons don't seem to consider. Global warming? Bring it on. You can't grow crops in the snow.

59 posted on 11/20/2006 9:47:14 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: monkapotamus

(touch typing)...

Hey, it works! ...you blotted out the sun!

Waitaminute... MY EYES!!!!!


60 posted on 11/20/2006 9:49:23 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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