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The Army We Need
New York Times ^ | Sunday, November 19, 2006

Posted on 11/19/2006 12:16:09 AM PST by MinorityRepublican

One welcome dividend of Donald Rumsfeld’s departure from the Pentagon is that the United States will now have a chance to rebuild the Army he spent most of his tenure running down.

Mr. Rumsfeld didn’t like lessons the Army drew from Vietnam — that politicians should not send American troops to fight a war of choice unless they went in with overwhelming force, a clearly defined purpose and strong domestic backing. He didn’t like the Clintonian notion of using the United States military to secure and rebuild broken states.

And when circumstances in Afghanistan and Iraq called for just the things Mr. Rumsfeld didn’t like, he refused to adapt, letting the Army, and American interests, pay the price for his arrogance.

So one of the first challenges for the next defense secretary and the next Congress is to repair, rebuild and reshape the nation’s ground forces. They need to renew the morale and confidence of America’s serving men and women and restore the appeal of career military service for the brightest young officers.

That will require building a force large enough to end more than three years of unsustainably rapid rotations of units back into battle, misuse of the National Guard, overuse of the Reserves and conscription of veterans back into active service.

Congress also needs to work harder at rebuilding the links between the battlefront and the home front that a healthy democracy needs. That does not require reinstating the draft — a bad idea for military as well as political reasons. It requires a Congress willing to resume its proper constitutional role in debating and deciding essential questions of war and peace. If Congress continues to shirk that role, expanding the ground forces would invite some future administration to commit American forces recklessly to dubious wars of choice.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq
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1 posted on 11/19/2006 12:16:11 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

< and conscription of veterans back into active service.>
Nobody has called me....


2 posted on 11/19/2006 12:26:25 AM PST by DragonMarine (Capitalism works, but it has to be paid for. (From the halls of Montezuma...)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Where's the "Projectile Vomit Alert"?

One welcome dividend of Donald Rumsfeld’s departure from the Pentagon is that the United States will now have a chance to rebuild the Army he spent most of his tenure running down.

The simple scumbags at the dying New York Times are confused again - - it was, of course, Clinton who "ran down" the military by feminizing it, sending it into battle unarmed (Black Hawk Down), using it to pick up the garbage in Haiti, and turning it into a laboratory for social experiments.

I wish the New York Times would hurry up and die.

3 posted on 11/19/2006 12:28:51 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: MinorityRepublican
This inane claptrap comes from a cabal of boutique marxists whose publisher and CEO actively protested the Vietnam War and used his family's influence to shirk military service. The New York Times, with its publication of any politically-motivated intelligence leak, is the antithesis to U.S. national security and the safety of the American public. With their celebration of every real or imagined military crime in Iraq, and their boast of "the most gay-friendly newsroom in the industry," they are not qualified to offer military advice.
4 posted on 11/19/2006 12:29:41 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: Lancey Howard

You're right about Clinton, of course, but it is noticeable that the military has been reshaped around special forces operations but not actually rebuilt to pre-Clinton levels overall.


5 posted on 11/19/2006 12:40:07 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: MinorityRepublican
What? Wasn't it the Democrats who cut the Military in half during the Clinton's stained administration? Wasn't it the N.Y. Times who released top secrets on the war on terror? Wasn't it the Dimrods who hate the military? And now the Slimes is saying the dumbos need to fix what they broke? What a hoot! Definetly a parallel universe. The National Guard has fought valiantly and bravely and are all heroes. Screw the N.Y. Times.
6 posted on 11/19/2006 12:42:04 AM PST by DISCO
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To: MinorityRepublican

They prepping us for a draft?


7 posted on 11/19/2006 12:42:10 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: AmericanVictory
If you want to take it a step further. Why are we fighting WWIII on such a small DoD budget. As of now, by percentage of GDP, our DoD budget, is what 4.7/8%. Thats really small.

We might need to increase that amount in order to reshape our Military for the future.
8 posted on 11/19/2006 12:44:32 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman
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To: MinorityRepublican

The NYT lies and spreads enemy propaganda.


9 posted on 11/19/2006 12:50:40 AM PST by CBart95
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To: All
the Clintonian notion of using the United States military to secure and rebuild broken states

The employees of the newspaper make it sound like Clinton had a policy -- but "notion" is probably the right word; to wit, "A fanciful impulse; a whim."

Remember "mission creep?"

Under the pressure of 24/7 CNN coverage of the horrors in Somalia the Bush administration relented and committed our forces to feed and help out.

The Clinton administration decided to "nation build."

Never mind, as one Internet source states, that "Defense Secretary Les Aspin and his deputies rejected sending needed tanks and armored vehicles to Somalia because they feared a political backlash would undermine their pro-United Nations policy, says a Senate Armed Services Committee report."

We know the results -- if we are to believe the reports on what OBL thought of Clinton's decision to cut and run the results include 9/11/01.

10 posted on 11/19/2006 12:51:30 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: GoLightly
They prepping us for a draft?

Absolutely.

The dems will have to draft, it will be impossible not to draft if they get there way ( and the whitehouse) and send us around the world distributing handouts in a attempt to bribe the hearts and minds of those who would sooner chop of our heads.

Plus and most importantly the left starting in darfur wants to turn africa into their next feel good welfare project. The hollywood types will promote it with gala events....our kids will suffer and die through it.

The "quagmires" have yet to begin.

11 posted on 11/19/2006 1:01:22 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and Apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: DISCO

Clinton is ancient history. We're talking about a current problem. We can only talk about the past for so long before we have to move on and accept responsibility for the current situation. Always pointing backwards in history is counter productive.


12 posted on 11/19/2006 1:09:06 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: MinorityRepublican
"They need to renew the morale and confidence of America’s serving men and women and restore the appeal of career military service for the brightest young officers."

I have 40 years of experience with the military. I am currently working with Regimental Combat Team 7 in Al Anbar, Iraq. They just went thru a month (October) in which the "insurgents" threw everything they could at the Marines and soldiers in AO Denver. It was an effort to create as many casualties as possible to try to influence the US elections. Casualties were high but but morale and professionalism are as strong as I have ever seen. The NYT is out of touch with reality. Michael Gordon their chief military correspondent was out here in July. He took tactical criticisms that were shared with him (answers to the "what could be done better question") and spun them into disgruntled complaints in his "articles". He is not welcome back by many.

The military is serving proudly and morale is high. Marines and soldiers are volunteering to return to combat because they believe in what they are doing unlike the NYTs. Editorials like this destroy what is left of the NYTs creditability. Rumsfield retired because he did not want to be subject to the public castration that the Democrats (Clinton, Kennedy, Kerry (Halp US Jon!), Biden, et al)were planning for him. Not all Rumsfeld's ideas were good but he was a hell of a lot more sincere about what he was trying to accomplish than is the NYTs.
13 posted on 11/19/2006 1:12:15 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: RedEyeJack

You are right about your assessment of the dedication and professionalism of the military, of course, and you're correct about the idiocy of the media's presentation of the battlespace, but there are two things in particular (at the tactical level) that MUST change in order to make this fight work:

1. The OPTEMPO must be changed. It can't be sustained as is. There are a lot of guys in my CO who would gladly redeploy more often to Iraq if it meant shorter periods. Many are getting out as soon as they can b/c they want to have families and live their lives. As it is now, they will miss easily a full third of their kids/wives lives if the OPTEMPO isn't changed. My wife and I want to have kids, too, but as it is now, it's almost impossible to realistically expect a family life. Either drastically lower the manpower requirements and turn more of the AO over to ISF, or lower the amount of time on deployment (i.e. 6 months).

2. We need to get serious with these terrorists/insurgents. This arresting and turning over to the Iraqis is absolute nonsense. Once caught, AIF need to be shot on sight. That will send a clear message that we aren't playing around anymore, and it will make the jihad a lot less fun for these guys. IA over here just caught three guys with weapons and handcuffs at a checkpoint. They admitted to going around fishing for kidnapping victims (who invariably end up dead). Instead of being shot, they're now hanging out in a detention facility getting three meals a day and being questioned (nicely). All AIF know that our ROE is pretty limited and they use our morality against us constantly. It needs to end. They need to be deathly afraid of us.


14 posted on 11/19/2006 1:31:25 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (My Savior beat up your Prophet!)
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To: Lancey Howard

"I wish the New York Times would hurry up and die."




I have to agree. I gave up on it years ago, when I see my customer's (southern Cal.)unread copies in the trash, I think less of them.


15 posted on 11/19/2006 1:34:27 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I see they're clearing the way for Rangel's third attempt to push draft legislation through.


16 posted on 11/19/2006 1:36:24 AM PST by AliVeritas ("In their exile they had learned nothing, and forgot nothing.")
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To: MinorityRepublican

"They need to renew the morale and confidence of America’s serving men and women and restore the appeal of career military service for the brightest young officers"
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The morale is fine and the officers are already some of the best and the brightest. What a bunch of BS.


17 posted on 11/19/2006 1:37:13 AM PST by lp boonie (Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement)
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To: Kakaze

These are the same folks throwing the ROTC off campuses... too much like sacrifice, if you know what I mean.

They should keep it at least for when the next punk with no home training decides he wants to shoot a school up.

It's time to freep the NYTs again.


18 posted on 11/19/2006 1:39:54 AM PST by AliVeritas ("In their exile they had learned nothing, and forgot nothing.")
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To: Prodigal Son

They're repeating history... that's the point.


19 posted on 11/19/2006 1:42:07 AM PST by AliVeritas ("In their exile they had learned nothing, and forgot nothing.")
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To: MinorityRepublican

F the NYT


20 posted on 11/19/2006 1:49:22 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (If it weren't for lawyers we wouldn't need 'em)
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