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Announcing a New Book by Alamo-Girl and betty boop [Update at #329]
Alamo-Girl and betty boop | November 13, 2006 | betty boop

Posted on 11/13/2006 7:34:14 PM PST by betty boop

Table of Contents

Authors’ Foreword

Prologue

Dramatis Personae

The Scene

The Dialogue

The so-called “Cartesian Split”
What is “all that there is?”
Pure, blind chance?
First reality and second realities
What is knowledge?
Does science “have it in” for God?
Is Intelligent Design science?
What is matter?
What lies at the beginning of “all that there is?”
Aristotle’s Four Causes
What is “randomness?”
First Adam, Second Adam
Is science “killing the soul?”
The Public Square: a “values-neutral zone?”
What is science?
What is the universe?
What is life?
What is reality?
Endnotes

Appendix
Nuts and Bolts
Numbers Big and Small
Combinatorics, Probability Theory, and the Observer Problem
Shannon Information and Complex Systems Theory
On Complementarity: A Tale of Two Friends
Myths and Speculations
Scientific Cosmologies
Cosmology Ancient and Modern
The Metaxy: Plato’s Model of Psyche
The Condicio Humana
On Liberty and Human Dignity

Afterword

* * * * * * *

For the past year-and-a-half, Alamo-Girl and I have been collaborating on a book about Western culture, which we recently completed. The book, titled Don’t Let Science Get You Down, Timothy: A Lighthearted (But Deadly Serious) Dialogue on Science, Faith, and Culture, is written for the intelligent generalist reader interested in informing him/herself about key issues in the on-going “culture war.”

Indeed, the “culture war” seems to have come to FreeRepublic in recent times, with a huge blow-up on certain science threads. The allegation raised in this case was that FR is “anti-science.” Alamo-Girl and I both firmly believe that nothing could be further from the truth. It seems to us that FR is anti-abuse of science. A case can be made that certain popular scientists use their trade as a vehicle to promote a social- and political-change agenda. It seems clear they thus depart from the practice of science.

An excerpt from the Authors’ Foreword will indicate our overarching theme, the subject matter, and our reasons for writing Timothy:

Western civilization is the unique product of an astonishing synthesis of faith and reason. The roots of Western order can be traced back to three historical cities: Jerusalem, Athens, and Rome. Each of these cites in its time of maximum flourishing was the scene of tremendous spiritual and intellectual outbursts that transformed the world of their day, and which continue to shape the Western mind in modern times. Indeed, their lasting influence is unparalleled in human history, giving rise to the magnificent achievements of systematic science, of advanced modern technology; of the flourishing of the arts and literature, of philosophy and theology, of political theory; and of widespread economic prosperity.

Consider the experience of the United States of America. The United States is unique in the historical community of nations because it is the only sovereign nation whose founding was sui generis: self-created in a single act. This act was the ratification of the United States Constitution, completed on June 21, 1788.

The Framers of the Constitution believed — they had faith — that their construction was eminently reasonable. You can see that in the constitutional architecture they designed, evident in the separation and balance of powers, of the ubiquitous checks and balances built into the system, so to disperse the consolidation of lawless power over a people who would be free. They had such confidence in their idea of ordered liberty that it is now fashionable to regard them as “children of the Enlightenment.”

This characterization is fair but incomplete. What is frequently overlooked in our own day is the fact, made plain in the Declaration of Independence, that the Framers were the brilliant inheritors of a tradition far older than that of the Enlightenment philosophes of 18th-century Europe — which was a “spiritual outburst,” too, though evidently of a different sort. For the philosophes seem to have been dedicated to the project of moving the universe from a God-centered to a man-centered conceptual framework.

For the Framers, human reason itself was understood as a gift of God. Such men as Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, Madison, Jay, Hamilton et al. believed that God is the Creator of the universe, and of man; and that God made man imago Dei, “in his image”; that is, possessing reason and free will as his natural birthright. On this understanding the Framers believed that the human person is innately endowed with certain inalienable rights — preeminently life, liberty, and the “pursuit of happiness” … — that may not be violated, abridged, nor tampered with by any other man or temporal authority with impunity. The heritage of Jerusalem and Athens — Judeo-Christian theology, together with its appropriation and synthesis of classical metaphysics — is the philosophical rock on which the Constitution was built.

The Framers and their generation were also people of faith. It took a whole lot of sheer faith to forge a new nation conceived in Liberty, one dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal because they are all equally the children of God.

And thus the idea of a dynamic rule of law of, by, and for a sovereign people under a system of equal justice for all men, not an arbitrary rule of kings exercising their authority over other (unequal) men “by divine right,” was born.

The Framers — and the educated public of their time — were people of faith and reason. By their time reason had been definitively formed from ancient and classical sources, preeminently by classical Greek philosophy, principally by Plato and Aristotle.…

… Plato and Aristotle set the very foundations of modern science, from roughly the fourth century before the coming of Christ. Before them such notable pre-Socratic natural philosophers as Democritus and Heraclitus were already speculating about some of the greatest questions of science that are still being investigated today; i.e., atomic theory and thermodynamics respectively.

Educated people of the time of the American founding resonated to other sublime sources from the ancient world as well, that is to the Holy Scriptures above all, and also to the great epics, myths, tragedies, and histories (Israelite, Greek, and Roman) whose essential concern was ever the human person and his condition, understood as universal to all men and women of all times.

Rome early in its history was organized according to republican principles, and flourished. Yet historically literate Americans of the founding period well understood how fragile republics can be, when their people fail to uphold the norms, values, and ethics that conduce to the republican ideal and thus to human liberty: When these fail, tyranny must follow. Rome — and Athens, too — are the classical object lessons of how great societies, great human cultures, great political orders, fail and fall, with all the disorder that inevitably follows in the human sphere when such catastrophes occur.

The Framers in their time were vitally attentive to new developments in philosophy and science then breaking in Europe. Indeed, Benjamin Franklin was regarded in Europe as well as America as one of the leading scientists of his day. Still one imagines these gentlemen might have taken the following observation of the brilliant French mathematician Marquis Pierre-Simon de Laplace (1749–1827) with a grain of salt:

“Given for one instant an intelligence which could comprehend all the forces by which nature is animated and the respective positions of the beings which compose it, if moreover this intelligence were vast enough to submit these data to analysis … to it nothing would be uncertain, and the future as the past would be present to its eyes.”

The Framers to a man might have thought: This Laplace desires to ascend to the very throne of God himself. For the “observer” he describes must be divine to instantaneously comprehend “all the forces by which nature is animated and the respective positions of the beings which compose it,” let alone possess an intellect vast enough to submit all such data “to analysis.”

The Framers, however, well understood that men were men, flawed mortals — not angels, let alone omniscient gods. They believed, in the full light of reason, in the dignity and sanctity of the individual, and that a rule of equal justice under divine law is indispensable to the thriving of free human beings, and to the free political and social communities and institutions that free human beings are enabled to form together for the common good.

Evidently Laplace believed that once the human mind was freed of superstition, then human knowledge could become exact, “objective,” and thus certain. Yet in order for there to be “certainty” of human knowledge, it would be necessary for the human observer to magically detach himself from his necessary condition as part and participant in the universal whole, so to find some “Archimedean point” outside the universe from which to view the totality of all that exists as if he were completely independent of it. In effect such an observer, or “intelligence,” would have to escape the constraints of four-dimensional space-time entirely in order to occupy such a vantage point.

But such a goal must be unmet, for it is strictly impossible: We never can step outside the universe so to view it entire in all its contingent, ceaseless flux. Furthermore, the operations of the human mind itself are irremovable participating events in the structure that we observe.

Laplace’s model of the universe was mechanistic, a clockwork universe. He took his cues from Newtonian mechanics, but apparently thought that Sir Isaac Newton’s theological speculations were irrelevant to problems in science. This in all likelihood was simply an unwarranted dismissal on Laplace’s part, of things that weren’t relevant for him, given his aims.

Newton himself evidently thought that the physical laws were elucidations of divine intent with respect to creation: It was this belief that principally motivated his search for the fundamental physical laws. Later he worried about increases in natural disorder occasioned by the regular operation of the mechanical laws he had discovered, thinking that God might have to step in every now and then to set things aright again in the natural world. Newton’s reveries on these matters seemingly are not recalled in modern scientific textbooks.

Unfortunately, it seems the roots of Western — and American — civilizational order are not much taught in any systematic way these days, neither in the taxpayer-funded public schools nor in the colleges and universities. Instead, it seems a Laplacean style of thought — logical positivism — is relentlessly promulgated, which seeks to rationalize all of nature by presuming it to be wholly physical and mechanistic, thereby draining it of metaphysical or spiritual extensions or implications. In this way it is thought that science can attain complete “objectivity.”

And yet as Dean Overman has pointed out, “complete objectivity in science is an illusion.” To say that all of nature is reducible to accidental material causes is itself a metaphysical or spiritual statement, belief in which is in essence an act of faith. Yet this is a statement that must be made, if we are to dispense with what Laplace called “the ‘God’ hypothesis,” of which he confidently claimed he had no need at all: Reason, logic, and the materialist presupposition are all that is required to unlock the secrets of nature.

But as noted, this is a faith statement, not a scientific one. A practical question instantly arises: If the universe is material and essentially accidental in its origin and evolution, then how do we account for logic and reason? If logical thinking is an accident, then how can we depend on it to be trustworthy? And if logic is not trustworthy, then how can we regard science itself as trustworthy, since it is preeminently a grand edifice raised on the foundations of logic and reason?

What Laplace’s methodology mainly boils down to is the denigration of faith, the assertion that it be regarded as an obstacle on the path of valid knowledge. As if faith and reason could ever really be separated: Indeed, Laplace couldn’t separate them even in his own case.

Thus we think that faith and reason ought best to be understood as mutually complementary, not as mutually exclusive. This understanding is the fundamental thesis of this book.

We chose to use the dialogue form for the main narrative, because that allows different characters with different perspectives to come “on stage” and argue with each other. We like that sort of thing ourselves. We have four characters in the main narrative, each expressing his/her own experience, expertise, and point of view. Our hope is that the reader will regard himself as the fifth member of this dialogue.

None of the issues addressed by the characters is “settled” as far as we can see — not in science, nor in philosophy, nor in cosmology. So we don’t “tell” truths here, we don’t propose “final answers” to the questions broached in these pages. We are not system builders by any far stretch of the imagination. Rather, we prefer to point out certain things we have noticed that seem of critical importance to us, invite the reader to go look, and then make up his/her own mind. It seems to us the greatest questions about the universe and of man’s place in it are ever “open” questions. For the truth of reality is never a final possession of mankind, but an ever-ongoing, human quest of millennial duration (so far). Your own insights into these questions help constitute the record of that quest.

* * * * * * *

Anyhoot, the book is “done”; now all we have to do is figure out how to get it into the hands of interested readers. We’re working on it!

Before closing, we want to mention that we had two splendid contributions from our dear friend and fellow FReeper, marron: the Appendix article “On Liberty and Human Dignity,” and the “Afterword.” These are works of deep penetration, intelligence, humanity, and magnanimous spirit. Simply put, they are beautiful. We are so grateful to marron for allowing us to include them in our book. Thank you, dear friend!

And thank you, dearest Alamo-Girl, for making all of this possible in the first place.


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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl

Congrats to you both, looks interesting.


141 posted on 11/14/2006 11:43:56 AM PST by RobFromGa (I'm still optimistic about our future!)
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To: ckilmer

"The unitarians got their start in the early 1700's mainly at the behest of the Sir Issac Newton who was an avowed arian."

Equally hilarious. You clearly know nothing of the Unitarian Church (such as it is).

Also, Newton was so "avowed" that his "Arian" writing was kept completely secret in his lifetime.

Sheesh again.

(I hope this book, which sounds pretty dodgey) isn't based on similar scholarship.


142 posted on 11/14/2006 11:44:14 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: an amused spectator
It all sounds so complex. Are there pictures?

Actually, there are a few graphics. But truly, I hope people will find the writing style has made it a comfortable read.
143 posted on 11/14/2006 11:44:38 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop

God grant you many years in peace health and happiness!


144 posted on 11/14/2006 11:47:25 AM PST by grammarman
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

Thank you oh so very much for your encouragements! And congratulations on your manuscript and the one to come!!!


145 posted on 11/14/2006 11:48:32 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl

So what are your plans for '08? :)


146 posted on 11/14/2006 11:49:01 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (What would Reagan do?)
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To: lesser_satan

Thank you for bumping by!


147 posted on 11/14/2006 11:50:43 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Thank you oh so very much, Knitting!


148 posted on 11/14/2006 11:51:17 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
However, the (humorless, I'd even say grim) logical positivists seem to have seized on Laplace's statement as the model for their own method.

Agreed. LaPlace was really describing God's perspective, not man's, although he might not have articulated it that way. OTOH, the logical positivists reenact the Sin of Adam over and over--eating from tree of the knowledge of good and evil to become wise, like God, with predictably tragic results. Having been expelled from the garden, mankind seems to spend much of its time trying to create Hell on Earth when, irony of ironies, Adam's sin is already redeemed.

149 posted on 11/14/2006 11:57:01 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: betty boop; ModelBreaker
But as you say, truly Laplace was a world-class thinker, and his work on Bayesian probability theory was truly foundational.

His statement that (freely paraphrasing) "seeing everything, and having the intellect to analyze the data, allows for knowledge of the future" brings up an interesting difficulty that I recalled today, while reviewing an orbital mechanics text.

The immediate context was that, while the motion of a body subject to central body gravitation is completely solveable, an "imposed non-two-body acceleration ... will render the new system [of equations] insolvable." (Emphasis mine.)

The author's essential point is that imposing perturbations other than gravity leaves us with a trajectory problem having more unknowns than parameters to explain the motion in a closed-form way. (This explains why there's no solution to the n-body problem, for example.)

It's an interesting lesson on the limitations of mathematics as they apply to the real world. At best, Laplace's statement boils down to a statement of perfect measurement of an immense number of initial conditions; coupled with zero-error numerical prediction methods -- neither of which are attainable in the real world.

150 posted on 11/14/2006 11:57:09 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Coyoteman; betty boop
Thank you for your reply!

I obviously have not yet read your book, but from your past posts here, and the table of contents you posted from your new book, you are still doing apologetics and philosophy, not science.

Interesting, I'm not aware of anyone "doing" science by writing a book - publishing observations and theories for sure, but not "doing."

At any rate, we'll let the readers decide whether or not we approached all the issues of science, faith and culture, appropriately.

151 posted on 11/14/2006 11:57:47 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ckilmer

BTW, there is also zero evidence that Mark Twain was ever a Unitarian. Nor Lincoln, if that is the claim that crackpot site is making.


152 posted on 11/14/2006 11:59:58 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: r9etb; betty boop
At best, Laplace's statement boils down to a statement of perfect measurement of an immense number of initial conditions; coupled with zero-error numerical prediction methods -- neither of which are attainable in the real world. Or, as I posted just a moment ago, he was describing God's, not man's, perspective.
153 posted on 11/14/2006 12:02:48 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: betty boop

Where to get copy??? I'm writing a novel, and have a history of Yucca Mountain. Jeff Head is out there. Perhaps a writers guild is in order.


154 posted on 11/14/2006 12:02:58 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: betty boop
However, the (humorless, I'd even say grim) logical positivists seem to have seized on Laplace's statement as the model for their own method.

Agreed. LaPlace was really describing God's perspective, not man's, although he might not have articulated it that way. OTOH, the logical positivists reenact the Sin of Adam over and over--eating from tree of the knowledge of good and evil to become wise, like God, with predictably tragic results. Having been expelled from the garden, mankind seems to spend much of its time trying to create Hell on Earth when, irony of ironies, Adam's sin is already redeemed.

155 posted on 11/14/2006 12:03:24 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
Congratulations! If you have a ping list for when the book becomes publicly available, I'd love to be on it.

I rarely post to evo/crevo threads because in my early years on FR it was such an unpleasant experience. But I have followed your posts, which have been fascinating and thought-provoking. And I have always admired your unflagging courtesy to all in what generally looks like no-holds-barred gladiatorial combat, to return to the Rome theme.

156 posted on 11/14/2006 12:19:22 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: DaveLoneRanger; betty boop; Alamo-Girl

I'll read this book.

Thanks for the ping.


157 posted on 11/14/2006 12:32:26 PM PST by Radix (This Tag Line would be a better joke about John Kerry if I hadn't left out 2 words and mangled it)
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To: Sam Hill
BTW, there is also zero evidence that Mark Twain was ever a Unitarian. Nor Lincoln, if that is the claim that crackpot site is making.
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That site was a unitarian site. (not to make too fine a point of it but that's why I had several references of varying repute -- to Melville's Unitarianism.) In any case its good you call the unitarian source crackpot. Its likely Twain Didn't go to church at all. I don't know about lincoln. Here's a wikipedia list of famous unitarians. the list includes melville, emerson and thoreau.(but not twain or lincoln--so good catch)
158 posted on 11/14/2006 1:03:36 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: betty boop
The recent “crevo war” at FR has produced some serious casualties.

I very rarely post on the crevo threads (it's been years) because the creationist posters have sincere religious beliefs which I don't wish to offend at all. I genuinely respect their beliefs -- they were the beliefs of my forefathers. I used to read the science articles Patrick Henry pinged us to but stayed clear of the arguments downthread. I doubt if the arguments changed anybody's mind anyway.

Recent events on FR have left a chill in the air for some of us scientifically trained political conservatives. Although none of the rancour and allegations were directed at me personally, I felt that my core values and scientific integrity had been impugned. It was like a kick in the gut from a place I respect.

Hopefully you can understand that and why people have left.

159 posted on 11/14/2006 1:05:06 PM PST by rustbucket (E pur si muove)
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To: betty boop

Let us know when 'Timothy,' eclectic references and all is available on Amazon.


160 posted on 11/14/2006 1:12:55 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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