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Muslim rappers worry Western intelligence
United Press International ^ | November 11, 2006 | United Press International, Inc.

Posted on 11/12/2006 12:02:40 AM PST by Lancey Howard

LONDON, Nov. 11 (UPI) -- A U.S. intelligence analyst is accusing rap artists in Britain of moving young Muslims toward extremism through lyrics about the Iraq war.

The Times of London reported Saturday that New York Police Department analyst Madeleine Gruen said the music of some groups is "very persuasive because it is giving young people ideas and those ideas are what might motivate someone to become a jihadi."

(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabicassassin; hiphop; india; islam; pakistan; rap; rappers
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1 posted on 11/12/2006 12:02:41 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Why do I doubt that this version of rap music is much different from any other version of rap music?


2 posted on 11/12/2006 12:08:01 AM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: Cindy

Rapper ping update!


3 posted on 11/12/2006 12:12:11 AM PST by endthematrix ("If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons.")
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To: Lancey Howard
The Times of London reported Saturday that New York Police Department analyst Madeleine Gruen said the music of some groups is "very persuasive because it is giving young people ideas and those ideas are what might motivate someone to become a jihadi."
Dear Madeleine. Please consider soaking your head in a drywall bucket. Once you are through, repeat to yourself as many times as necessary: "We are at war with terrorists. Not rappers."

Those kids and their rock and roll. Sheesh.
4 posted on 11/12/2006 12:13:31 AM PST by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: Lancey Howard

As far as I can tell, AMERICAN rappers should worry Western intelligence, too.

Actually, make that ALL rappers.


5 posted on 11/12/2006 12:16:39 AM PST by gabidale89
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To: Lancey Howard

Snoop bin dog


6 posted on 11/12/2006 12:25:30 AM PST by henbane
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To: All
A Look at Entertainment and Entertainers ON THE 'NET:


"www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=rap"

"www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=hiphop"

News.BBC.co.uk: "MUSICIAN 'WILLING TO FACE PRISON'" (Last updated June 28, 2006)

"www.fun-da-mental.co.uk"

"www.dicklaurentisdead.com/fun-da-mental/forum.php"

MilitantIslamMonitor.org (CANADA.com - AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE; with files from news services): "SON OF CONVICTED 'HATE PREACHER' ABU HAMZA RETURNS TO UK AFTER OWN PRISON TERM FOR TERRORISM TO COLLECT WELFARE AND LAUNCH CAREER AS JIHAD RAPPER" (March 2, 2006)

IslamOnline.net (www.Qantara.de): "ALGERIAN HIP HOP Rap Rebellion - Loud and Proud" by Arian Fariborz  (January 17, 2006)

WorldNetDaily.com: Washington - "CONGRESSWOMAN: WHO KILLED TUPAC?" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Rep. Cynthia McKinney, D-GA, has introduced a bill to provide for the "expeditious disclosure of records relevant to the life and death of Tupac Amaru Shakur," the rapper murdered in Las Vegas in 1996. The bill has been referred to the Committee on Government Reform and Committee on Rules.Afenia Shakur, Tupac's mother and a former member of the Black Panthers, is reportedly supporting the effort.") (November 7, 2005)
Google Search Term: "ARABIC ASSASSIN"

A Discussion on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding a HOUSTON CHRONICLE article: "RAPPER WHO APPLAUDED 9/11 LOSES AIRPORT GIG" (July 15, 2005)

SoundClick.com - Band: "ARABIC ASSASSIN"

FOX NEWS.com: London - "MUSLIM EXTREMISTS PREACH VIOLENCE IN EUROPE" by Steve Harrigan (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "He's called Sheik Terra. With a Koran in one hand and pistol in the other, the British rapper calls for the murder of non-Muslims, including several world leaders, on a videotape.") (November 29, 2004)
MEMRI TV.com - THE MIDDLE EAST MEDIA RESEARCH INSTITUTE - TV Monitor Project - Clip No. 199: "'THE SCHEME OF THAIS' - ANTI-AMERICAN MUSIC VIDEO ON IRANIAN TV" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The Iranian news channel IRINN TV broadcast a between-program music video produced by the television department of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. Thais was a Greek courtesan who joined Alexander the Great on his campaign, and, according to one story, persuaded him to set fire to Persepolis. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard's song shows the Statue of Liberty as Thais. The following are excerpts" (August 12, 2004) (Note: Use the "Search" function on Memri and enter 199 in the video clips box.)
JIHAD WATCH.org: "JIHAD RAP FROM BRITAIN" (February 03, 2004)

WorldNetDaily.com: "MUSICAL JIHADISTS IN U.S. Pro-Terrorism Pop Stars Sell Hate in Muslim Neighborhoods" (January 26, 2004)

YouTube.com: "PARIS-Sonic Jihad TV Spot" (April 23, 2006)

YouTube.com: "PARIS - Guerrilla Funk" (Added April 23, 2006)

ISLAM ONLINE.net - Arts and Entertainment: "SONIC JIHAD, TAKE TWO" by Ali Asadullah (February 25, 2003)

ISLAM ONLINE.net - Arts and Entertainment: "RAPPER, PARIS, UNLEASHES A 'SONIC JIHAD" by Ali Asadullah (January 8, 2003)

GOOGLE Search Term: "SONIC JIHAD"

GUERRILLAFUNK.com


7 posted on 11/12/2006 12:31:38 AM PST by Cindy
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To: endthematrix

Thank you for the ping, endthematrix.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1737187/posts?page=7#7


8 posted on 11/12/2006 12:32:16 AM PST by Cindy
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To: backhoe; piasa; nwctwx; All

ADDING to links in post no. 7:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014011.php
November 12, 2006
"Islamic hip-hop artists are accused of indoctrinating young against the West"
(TimesOnline.co.uk)

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http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/012019.php

June 28, 2006

"The benefits of G-had"

SNIPPET: "The British authorities should be watching this character very closely. I doubt they are. And this kind of "music" should not be legal in Britain: we are in a war. This would be like a pro-Nazi song being recorded in London in the middle of the Blitz. The fact that only two record company executives are upset about this shows just how far the British have already sunk into dhimmitude.

"G-had and suicide bombers: the rapper who likens Bin Laden to Che Guevara," from The Guardian, with thanks to all who sent this in:"


9 posted on 11/12/2006 12:42:59 AM PST by Cindy
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To: henbane

ROFLMAO!


10 posted on 11/12/2006 12:45:53 AM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1720092/posts

British-Pakistani Muslims bash Bollywood


FRANKFURT: Bollywood may wear its multi-religious pluralism as a badge of honour, but for the angry young British Muslims of Pakistani denomination, it’s all a sham and therefore a matter of extreme discomfort.

As India's oversized filmdom stampedes across the world winning accolades, a group of British Muslim youth is trashing the Bollywood genre, warning that the "cheesy second-rate imitation of Hollywood...is overrunning Pakistan and brainwashing musalmaans".

In a rap-video posted on youtube.com that is being widely circulated in Pakistani circles, the group reserves much of its venom for Bollywood’s reigning stars, many of who happen to be Muslims.

"What do you want to give your kids?/Is it Salman Khan or Islam?/Is it Shah Rukh Khan or Allah’s book?/ Is it Bobby Deol or save their souls?/ Is it Amir Khan or imaan?" intones a singer, preferring a hip-hop style to convey the message.

Hip-hop is an African-American influenced musical and cultural movement that has itself attracted criticism for its language. YouTube is a social networking website that allows users to upload, view and share videoclips and it too has attracted criticism for encouraging violence and copyright infringement.

But for the extremist Brit-Pak brigade, Bollywood bashing comes first. "Everywhere you look/It’s that kufr Bollywood/Video stores selling whores/Semi-gay actors with Muslim sounding names/With Hindu propaganda designed to create chains," goes one rant.

The unnamed group, which has produced the video from a collage of Hindi film clips and posters, says Bollywood movies are officially banned in Pakistan but it is freely available on video and DVD by piracy, which it says is "a conspiracy to allow Hindu culture thorough the backdoor."

Reports from Pakistan speak of the movie Fanaa being a big hit in the country’s underground circuit. Songs from Fanaa and other new Bollywood blockbusters are played openly in taxis and private transport.

The Pakistani elite and the ruling class lead the ranks of Bollywood aficionados, a fact that seems to rankle the British Pakistani youth who are in the limelight for their extremist views and fondness for madrassas.

"They kill Kashmiris but you still watch Mission Kashmir,’’ they admonish Pakistanis in one passage.

Another rap passage wonders: "Bollywood Bollywood what’s the future hold/ As film by film you get ever so bold/ Stories of lesbianism enter the fold/ Now you have to heat it up as it starts going cold/ Topless movies or is it incest next/ All the time it is sex sex sex."


11 posted on 11/12/2006 12:51:10 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: henbane

oh man. i almost inhaled my keyboard! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 11/12/2006 1:38:04 AM PST by ferri (Be Politically Incorrect: Support the Constitution!)
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To: Cindy; All

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/thecoup.htm


13 posted on 11/12/2006 4:17:32 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Lancey Howard

Muslim rap?Is was only a matter of time.Rap always has appealed to to the cretins of the world.


14 posted on 11/12/2006 4:27:45 AM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: Lancey Howard

how do they film the videos with all the bee-itches and ho's in burhkas????


15 posted on 11/12/2006 4:51:03 AM PST by hnj_00
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To: Asclepius

I think you vastly overestimate the intelligence of rap fans. They really are influenced by that music.


16 posted on 11/12/2006 4:59:07 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
I think you vastly overestimate the intelligence of rap fans. They really are influenced by that music.......

you are right, becuase the lyrics are repeated over and over, like a mantra, and then behaviour is eventual;ly influenced and dictated by a rapper community that subscribes to the same musical genre.

17 posted on 11/12/2006 7:06:47 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: PGalt

Thank you PGalt for adding that link.


18 posted on 11/12/2006 8:45:58 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Lancey Howard

I would suggest that Islam itself motivates young people to become terrorists.


19 posted on 11/12/2006 8:54:36 AM PST by omega4179 (Stop McCain/Giuliani 08)
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To: Lancey Howard
I have no doubt that Islam is a violent scourge.

I have no doubt that rap is a vehicle for violence.

The two go hand-in-hand. And we won't be able to do squat about it here because of the First Amendment protections for freedom of speech and the government making no law respecting an establishment of religion.

In short, our only counterattack is to put forth equally extremist messages in defense of liberty. For, as Barry Goldwater once observed, extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.

20 posted on 11/12/2006 9:06:01 AM PST by Prime Choice (The angel has spread its wings. The time has come for bitter things.)
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