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?Sonic Hedgehog? Sounded Funny, at First
NY Times ^
| November 12, 2006
| JOHN SCHWARTZ
Posted on 11/11/2006 8:04:06 PM PST by neverdem
Rename That Gene
LUNATIC fringe, head case and one-eyed pinhead might sound like insults from the schoolyard or talk radio. But these are actually examples of the kind of oddball names that scientists give to genes they discover.
The idea is to make the names unique and memorable with so many genes being discovered and described, a little color helps scientists tell them apart. But the trouble comes when science is transmuted into medicine; what works in the lab may be jarring in the clinic.
The names are causing problems for doctors who have to counsel patients about genetic defects with names like sonic hedgehog and mothers against decapentaplegia.
Its a serious problem, said Dr. Sue Povey, a professor of biology at University College London, and head of the genome nomenclature committee of the Human Genome Organization. Her group is renaming some of the most objectionable names, in some cases by requiring that they be referred to by their initials, to render them inoffensive. The move was first reported by the journal Nature.
Dr. Chris Doe, a professor of biology at the University of Oregon who specializes in the genetics of the fruit fly, or drosophila, noted that evolution is conservative: a gene that works in one creature is likely to be found in others, and so a version of a gene discovered in the fruit fly or zebra fish may well be found in humans.
Many of those genes were given weird names when first discovered. Scientists have come up with names for genes in fruit flies, for example, that may be mystifying (faint sausage, fear of intimacy), cute (tribbles, groucho and smurf), or macabre (sex lethal and death executioner Bcl-2.)
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biochemistry; biology; genetics; heredity
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posted on
11/11/2006 8:04:07 PM PST
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
Look out for Dr. Robotnik.
To: neverdem
To: LibFreeOrDie
Common names suffice in the real world, or even contrived nomenclatures within a single organization.
It's certainly annoying when geeks try to be cute. That goes for all situations.
To: neverdem
I got interested in the Sonic Hedgehog gene when it was first talked about. There was a gene called "hedgehog" in fruit flies, because one of its alleles caused a bristly looking phenotype. Research on its function led to the concept of "homeoboxes" which are a gene involved in embryonic development. They are part of the machinery for duplicating multiple segments, and legs, and so on, and hence crucial for understanding the development process.
Then an analogue for this gene was found in mammals, and was hence named "sonic hedgehog", so there is a deep significance beneath the whimsy in this case. I believe, though, that they dropped this nomenclature in subsequent discussions of homeobox theory. As far as I know, the term is now historical.
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posted on
11/11/2006 8:26:51 PM PST
by
dr_lew
To: neverdem
I found an Al Gore gene which oddly enough at one time occurred in a Jackass.
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posted on
11/11/2006 8:27:08 PM PST
by
Herakles
(Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
To: neverdem
Her group is renaming some of the most objectionable names
Assuming that this article is accurate, I think that what it describes is just pathetic. It's a long standing tradition in science that someone early in the discovery/ invention process of a new item gets to name it. The entire genus of Rickettsia is named that way because Dr. Ricketts, who discovered that genus, decided that would be a good name for it (guess why). X-rays have that name because Roentgen decided to call them that. Historically, some committee, that had nothing valuable to contribute to the actual discovery or invention of an object, has not had a say in what those objects are called. It's one of the many meager incentives to be in science; you find or invent something, you get to name it.
Based on my reading of this article, it appears that Dr. Sue Povey is bothered by the names chosen for genes by people who actually did the work to find those genes. It also appears that Dr. Povey did not actually find those genes herself, or she would have already named them whatever she wanted to. If she wants to have soothing, comforting names for these genes, then maybe she should discover them herself, and name them whatever she wants. In my opinion, the same goes for any MD or patient who is disturbed by the name chosen by the discoverers of those genes.
To: SteveMcKing
Can you imagine when a doctor has to explain to some liberal college prof. that his medical problem is being caused by his overactive "lunatic fringe" genes?...lol
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posted on
11/11/2006 8:30:57 PM PST
by
Beagle8U
(Angry voters tend to make poor choices politically.....Unfortunately we all have to live with them.)
To: Jubal Harshaw
To: LibFreeOrDie
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posted on
11/11/2006 8:39:53 PM PST
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: LibFreeOrDie
From the list...
superman - a flower-related gene in Arabidopsis.
kryptonite - a gene which supresses superman.
Hahhahaaa!
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posted on
11/11/2006 8:47:36 PM PST
by
CarrotAndStick
(The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
To: SteveMcKing; Jubal Harshaw
It's certainly annoying when geeks try to be cute.With the exponential explosion of new information, they need slick names to remember it all. That being said, do you think primary care docs have the time to explain the history to upset parents of kids with genetic defects?
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posted on
11/11/2006 8:51:54 PM PST
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: Beagle8U
They're so strict about naming standards... well this is going to ruin it. It will be no problem at all renaming things more appropriately.
If you screw yourself and lose a little credit - all because you wanted to be funny - then tough luck.
To: neverdem
"Dr. Chris Doe, a professor of biology at the University of Oregon who specializes in the genetics of the fruit fly, or drosophila, noted that evolution is conservative ..."
Goodness. I thought Intelligent Design was conservative. Who knew?
To: Herakles
I found an Al Gore gene which oddly enough at one time occurred in a Jackass. Even more strange is that the same gene can be found in deciduous trees.
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posted on
11/11/2006 9:03:54 PM PST
by
LexBaird
(98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
To: neverdem
sound like insults from the schoolyard or talk radio I was headed towards a rant but then saw that this comes from the NYT. I'll save my rant for something worthwhile.
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posted on
11/11/2006 9:06:54 PM PST
by
upchuck
(Republicans didn`t lose this time around because they were conservative, but because they WEREN`T!)
To: neverdem
I am positive that the vast majority of parents of sick children never know anything more than the bare minimum about their children's disease, and sometimes not even that. The fact that a defective gene is named "sonic hedgehog" is going to be told to, or read about, by a tiny minority of only the most interested and motivated parents.
I hear the objections already: "If it was MY child, I would find out the name of the defective gene." Yeah, well, if you are intelligent and motivated enough to be reading and responding to a minor topic on a text-based political website, then you are not the average person, and, if you have kids, you are not the average parent.
That said, it's my guess that the few people who do find out the name of their kid's defective gene won't really care. Based on my (so far, fortunately incomplete) experience with death and illness, I have seen that, in the vast majority of people, it tends to straighten out priorities. I think that this whole "renaming" process, far from existing to benefit patients, likely exists only to stroke the egos of the academics who get off on using the government to impose their own will on others.
To: neverdem
Now I'm a gene? Well, I've been called worse.
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posted on
11/11/2006 9:13:40 PM PST
by
Lunatic Fringe
(Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
To: neverdem
faint sausage Well, since I have 5 kids, I don't have to worry about that, right?
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posted on
11/11/2006 10:14:53 PM PST
by
neodad
(USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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