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How much is President Bush and Bushies to Blame for this Loss?
opinion | 11/7/2006 | brianbaldwin

Posted on 11/07/2006 10:19:51 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin

This loss is going to have historical consequences – how much is President Bush to blame for this loss? Is it too early to say that the blame for this loss rests squarely with President Bush and the “Bushbots”?

Bush? Or is it Bush and the RINOs? . . . And worst of all to blame, the fault of what some talk show hosts call the Harriet Myers Storm-trooper crowd of Bushbots who simply would bray like a donkey whenever conservatives brought up the obvious problems with Bush from illegal immigration, to port deals, to his globalist friends and massive spending?

Well, it isn’t going to just be me saying that President Bush and the bots wasted too many years, they had the power and blew it.

Only in the last couple weeks did Bush start to try to get the message out about the good economy, but the fact is there were many conservatives who kept saying this is a winning message for a long time, if only the Republicans would get serious about getting the message out --- and the reply from the Bushbots was “the DOW and the stock market isn’t the same as the economy”, ignoring that the important message about the economy wasn’t just the stock market but much more.

The Republicans were on a dog and pony show with the “Bushies”, of which some now call the “Bushbots”, and years were wasted with what many now say were idiots who followed someone who never was a conservative anyway. The reality might just start to sink in that Bush just used some conservative lingo to take these idiots for a ride.

Yes, the President was “on track” regarding the war on terrorism – and yes, he and everyone else were correct that this war won’t be over in one or two years. The point being – no, Bush didn’t own the adage that this will not be a short war, but will be a long war, perhaps decades long – and everyone who understood the enemy said the same, and were saying so before even Bush took office in 2000.

In fact, many of these conservatives were saying Usama bin Laden and the Islamic terrorists et all hit the Trade Center once and he was coming back to finish the job, but Bush was too busy running around with Vicente Fox talking amnesty to listen.

But don’t worry, Bush will probably get his amnesty now. No, I’m not talking about the amnesty for Iraqi “insurgents” who killed American soldiers (no amnesty for our soldiers being held for “war crimes?”), no I talking about amnesty for illegal aliens from Mexico. And one may as well say exactly what we are talking about here – this isn’t about amnesty for illegal aliens from Jamaica, nor Russians, and such – it’s all about illegal aliens from Mexico, which once given will be irreversible, America will not be the same ever again and no one will be able to turn it around once done, because it’s done.

The best hope in stopping the Bush amnesty was a Republican victory in the House in 2006, but the Bushbots sunk it for us all and now with the Democrats running the show you are going to see an amnesty bill forwarded and Bush will sign it with a smile as a “great example of bipartisan leadership”.

The funding for the war in Iraq will likely now be cut off, a front in the battle on terrorism of which Bush wasn’t fighting as a “war” against the terrorists anymore – yes, let me say that President Bush has been doing a good job regarding the war on terrorism so lets just get that out there now - but, it seemed more like he was thinking the war on that particular front was over and he was “building Democracy” and sure didn’t want to accidentally kill any Iraqi civilians in the process because it wouldn’t look good in the New York Times and CNN.

Anyway, for sure the Democrats are going to have the leverage to screw us up on that one and cut and run not just in Iraq but everywhere. If and when the Democrats get there way, which they likely now will, what that tells the world, since Vietnam, and now Iraq which really was a punch drunk easy war as far as any war goes, the message to the world will now be that America can never win another war.

And that is really bad news since a lot of Americans are going to die as a result.

What that means is Iran now runs the region. And billions and billions and billions of dinars will sponsor further terrorism as they dance in the street having defeated the great Satan – and the Islamic terrorist with a likely victory in Iraq will do exactly what they already said they are going to do: they will turn their attention to overthrowing the governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan.

Pakistan already has the nuclear bomb.

The governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan are next on the head-chopping list, of which the Islamic fundamentalists may likely have very good success on instigating the axe. Because, at least Bush did a good job on the war on terrorism, but you can absolutely count on it that if the Democrats are going to call the shots, the region is going to explode; the Islamic terrorist front will be global like no ones business.

The idiots have been saying the war on Iraq fomented more Islamic terrorists.

The fact is, the growth of Islamic terrorism is an historical trend of which was escalating before Iraq, was on the march and would have been as life-size now whether we invaded Iraq or not, in fact likely even more so if their march wasn’t tripped up a bit in old Babylon.

We have a great economy.

But the economy won’t be great after the terrorist hit us again. In fact, when it happens, don’t be surprised how fast you are going to lose your job.

Democrats running the House. Now just watch the war. The war isn’t over. It’s now going to get bigger than ever.

Well, I guess some are saying, with the Dems running things, they take the blame for things, too. The problem with this is, the old media will still blame everything on Bush. So, unless the American people figure out that what is about to happen to America was the fault of the Democrats, then we are in big trouble.

But we were already in big trouble with this election. And a lot of Americans didn’t understand the consequences now, and this will be the same crowd who won’t understand later when everything blows up in our face.

I suppose some are thinking that all I have been doing is the same as the Democrats – to simply blame Bush for everything.

No, I don’t blame Bush for everything. I blame myself. Because, for some reason, I didn’t get involved enough, involved with other conservatives to get the conservative message to Americans.

Thank you President Bush, you have had to deal with a lot of crap from the old media. As far as I’m concerned, I consider them an enemy of Democracy.

In fact, I consider the Democratic Party an enemy of Democracy.

And, thank you President Bush, since 911 we, America, hasn’t had another major terrorist attack on our soil. I give the President thanks for this. It has been a blessing.

I don’t think this blessing is going to last much longer. Not after tonight.


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KEYWORDS: bush; bushbots; bushies; dixiechixwin; weinerbot
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To: rintense
And I bet DU is just gleeful at the amount of in-fighting going on here.

So far that I have read, I have NOT seen us fallen down to the level of how the DU normally acts!

We are toooo proud to be on the same level as them!!

We are NOT counted out by ten. We just all need to get of the canvas floor and take the beating with civility. Name-calling is NEVER productive. God Bless America!!!

121 posted on 11/07/2006 10:54:37 PM PST by danamco
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To: Howlin

At least you openly admit how much you hate the conservative part of the base. The ones who steered the party around and made it the great party it is today. I have to give you credit for being so open about it.

Looking at it from the outside though, it's obvious that our two views of the party are so different as to make even compromise impossible. Only time will tell who is right, and if you are, I will admit that when the time comes.


122 posted on 11/07/2006 10:55:14 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: AntiGuv

Take your hippy-dippy anti-war mentality and stick it where the sun don't shine.


123 posted on 11/07/2006 10:56:45 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

You need to do a "rain-check" on your comments to me.

You are posting nonsense to someone who cares, demonstrating you are a reason we lost!

Get a clue, don't be a fool.


124 posted on 11/07/2006 10:56:45 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: Natural Law

A Big Ditto!!!!!!!!!!


125 posted on 11/07/2006 10:56:55 PM PST by Wisc Paul
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To: danamco
Name-calling is NEVER productive.

This is true and I wish George Allen had learned this lesson a long time ago.
126 posted on 11/07/2006 10:57:47 PM PST by johnwayne
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To: Brian_Baldwin
The best hope in stopping the Bush amnesty was a Republican victory in the House in 2006, but the Bushbots sunk it for us all and now with the Democrats running the show you are going to see an amnesty bill forwarded and Bush will sign it with a smile as a “great example of bipartisan leadership”.

Look for the ban on assault weapons to be reintroduced as well. Bush said he will sign that one if it reaches his desk and Tom Delay and the House Republicans committee members were the only ones keeping it off the agenda. Now they're gone.

127 posted on 11/07/2006 10:58:16 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: NinoFan
At least you openly admit how much you hate the conservative part of the base.

Gosh, you really are dense, aren't you?

We ARE the conservative base; we're just not all as UNCOMPROMISING AND STRIDENT as some of you are.

The ones who steered the party around and made it the great party it is today.

Not your "wing" of the party.

Looking at it from the outside though, it's obvious that our two views of the party are so different as to make even compromise impossible.

You're exactly right because 90 percent of us in the GOP live in the real world and realize that politics is the art of the POSSIBLE and of COMPROMISE.

Those of you who are unyielding will never win anything on your own.

128 posted on 11/07/2006 10:58:50 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Excellent post, with far-sighted perspective. Thanks.


129 posted on 11/07/2006 11:00:20 PM PST by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: Howlin

Oh, yes, blackmail, that's what you call that part of the political process, silly me.

I should have stuck to what I said before which is that you will not hear from me again, but when you accused me of talking behind backs, I felt I had to respond. I don't think my heart can take too much arguing at once.


130 posted on 11/07/2006 11:01:02 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: NinoFan

No,I call saying REPEATEDLY "If I don't get 100 percent of everything I want, I won't vote for you."

You all do it every single election; and now the GOP realizes that you cannot be counted on in the long run.

Basically, you're political whores.


131 posted on 11/07/2006 11:03:35 PM PST by Howlin
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

132 posted on 11/07/2006 11:03:45 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek

OK, LOL, I disagree with the message as I rather like Rove, but I have to admit, that was unexpected and funny. Thanks for the chuckle!


133 posted on 11/07/2006 11:06:04 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: nopardons; Howlin
I just had a wonderful thought on another thread. With losing the senate, that means that Specter loses his gavel and so does McCain. :o)

This definitely weakens McCain before his presidential run.

134 posted on 11/07/2006 11:06:47 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: Howlin
Basically, you're political whores. Yeah, go ahead -- vote for RINOs. Vote for rats in elephant clothing. Keep doing it, and you can cheer for a government who is officially "Republican" but votes like Ted Kennedy. The only way to stop the party from shifting too far to the left is to punish them when they do, even if it's a temporary setback (and by God, this is just temporary; America is just too conservative for this to be a trend)
135 posted on 11/07/2006 11:06:54 PM PST by OldGuard1
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To: Prost1
Great post and proves conclusively, that you have absolutely NO idea, whatsoever, what you're talking about.

I congratulate you on your delusional egotism, delusions of intelligence, and I especially salute you on your manacle insistence that I am just not up to your putting you in your place.

I shall look forward to your bizarre reply to this, since thus far, you get loonier with each succeeding post. ;^)

136 posted on 11/07/2006 11:07:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Brian_Baldwin

It's the media, stupid.


137 posted on 11/07/2006 11:07:28 PM PST by alnick
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To: Howlin; PhiKapMom; onyx
This thread clearly shows who on FR like nothing better than to destroy Republicans at the first opportunity.
138 posted on 11/07/2006 11:07:46 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of "Bush Derangement Syndrome.")
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To: OldGuard1
(and by God, this is just temporary; America is just too conservative for this to be a trend)

Like I said, most of us live in the real world.

This country is not TOO conservative anymore; it hasn't been for years.

Just keep living in the past.

139 posted on 11/07/2006 11:08:25 PM PST by Howlin
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To: COEXERJ145

So I've noticed; some old timers appear to be back -- and happy............LOL.


140 posted on 11/07/2006 11:09:09 PM PST by Howlin
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