Posted on 10/08/2006 8:33:02 AM PDT by Dark Skies
Edited on 10/08/2006 10:13:03 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
The left, in possession of a scandal which they think can drive a wedge between evangelicals and the GOP, is behaving like a shark driven mad by the scent of blood in the water. Certain individuals strike out blindly in a political feeding frenzy. There’s no telling what wounds will be inflicted on whom.
How else to account for the dynamic at work, with people like Lawrence O’Donnell coyly dropping itty-bitty hints in the Huffington Post that a certain key GOP figure might be a little light in the loafers, nudge-nudge, wink-wink.
There are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed together on Capitol Hill, but I have never heard of a chief of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual. But it must have its advantages. Anything they forget to tell each other at the office, they have until bedtime to catch up on. And then there’s breakfast for anything they forgot to tell each other before falling asleep. And then there’s all day at the office. Hastert and Palmer are together more than any other co-workers in the Congress.
Of course, O’Donnell, with both a DC and Hollywood imprint on his career, stays in the realm of deniability. But his Huffpo commenters get it. A brief sample:
How do we know they aren’t lovers as well?Their living arrangement sounds creepy – and Hastert looks like a perv anywayBy: georgann on October 07, 2006 at 11:21am Flag: [abusive]
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His roomie? Yipes! Do they “wrestle” before hitting the shower? Jockstrap lover boys in the GOP are not surprising, but that they are so open about it is. Methinks there is a very big scandal brewing indeed that’s going to make sadsack Foley look no worse than a bag boy in a drug organization.These Republicans are very, very strange. And I have to agree with fourex—why does the press keep quiet about this sort of oddball stuff? I mean, if this chief of staff was a (gasp!) woman, would they not have been all over it like a chicken on a june bug from day one?By: illotus on October 07, 2006 at 11:31am Flag: [abusive]
I do not think that the feminist organizations have ever recovered from their betrayal of all their principles in their defense of Bill Clinton’s behavior with Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and Kathleen Willey (among others). They lost legitimacy in the eyes of too many in the public, and even in the press. Flamboyantly-betrayed principles do not ever again function as an effective political weapon.
Mainstream members of the homosexual community have a lot on the line with the Foley case. A new rule book is being written for behavior expected of homosexuals with consenting adult young males. It appears at this moment that Foley has not either touched or solicited anyone under 18.
Our society as a whole, and specifically our federal government, has already decided that it is perfectly legitimate to be a homosexual and function as a valued member of Congress or federal employee. But now, homosexuality is being treated as a matter of shame, and Republicans are being castigated as insufficiently suspicious of a gay male. Homosexuality is being taken as a danger sign, requiring extra care.
And the fact that Foley is claimed to have had a sexual relationship with a 21 year old former page is making headlines in the Los Angeles Times and beyond. Foley evidently was punctilious about observing the rules.
“I always knew you were a player but I don’t fool around with pages,” declared one instant message from Maf54, a screen name used by Foley in exchanges that have now become public involving a number of male former pages.The former page’s account is consistent with Foley’s assertion that he did not have sexual relations with minors, a question that will be key to determining whether he committed criminal acts. Although the legal age of consent varies from state to state, in the District of Columbia, where the pages live in supervised dormitories, it is 16.Yet the former page’s exchanges with Foley offer a glimpse of possible predatory behavior by the congressman as he assessed male teenagers assigned as House errand runners.
Are gay men from now on supposed to have nothing to do with younger men until they are above the age of consent? What about all those gay scoutmasters the left wants to empower to go out on camping trips?
The mind of middle America is deeply uneasy about the idea that older homosexuals become friends with underage men, and then when they come of age, engage in sex. That’s why the visceral reaction to Foley, whatever the legalities, is so strong.
Shall we propose legislation that criminalizes sexual activities between consenting adult homosexuals if they came into contact before one of them was 16 or 18 or what ever the local age of consent is? And for that matter, what about heterosexuals?
Such a comprehensive law would be welcome, certainly by parents of both boys and girls. But I doubt very much that the gay community is interested in its passage. In fact, I strongly suspect that is a cause it would prefer not to discuss.
But once the point is conceded in the case of Foley that something truly objectionable has taken place, can ordinary homoexuals working in ordinary jobs ever feel secure again? Conceding that homosexuality combined with friendliness to young males is a danger sign warranting official inquiry is a big step in that direction.
And when the frenzy turns to outing or casting aspersions, nobody is safe, even practicing heterosexuals who happen to like show tunes, or have close male friends, or dress more elegantly than others.
Hat tip: Larwyn
The left does not have principles - it has interests.
I have an idea. Let's have the Supreme Court revisit Lawrence v. Texas and maybe they'll reverse themselves. I'm sure the Democrats will agree this time since they have suddenly become homophobic.
"There are plenty of odd couple Congressmen who have roomed together on Capitol Hill, but I have never heard of a chief of staff who rooms with his boss. It is beyond unusual. But it must have its advantages. Anything they forget to tell each other at the office, they have until bedtime to catch up on. And then there’s breakfast for anything they forgot to tell each other before falling asleep. And then there’s all day at the office. Hastert and Palmer are together more than any other co-workers in the Congress."
That should have been in quotations or in a block, as the original had. I read it over and over. In its current form the author of the article seems to be saying it.
That's a bad as the article posted the other day - In the middle of the argument, "Click for a free car." I gave that the non sequitur award. It seems the poster copied everything, including the linking ad, "Click for a free car."
"Lawrence O’Donnell coyly dropping itty-bitty hints in the Huffington Post that a certain key GOP figure might be a little light in the loafers"
On the other hand, no one needs a nudge from the PuffHo to recognize those same traits in Lawrence O'Donnell.
And I do question Larry O'Donnell's sanity. He has proven that he is a raving lunatic that will do anything to discredit the GOP.
Hastert is so fat he hasn't seen his lil fren in ages and no one else can probably find it ether.
A contradiction in terms ...
I will ask the admin mod if he can repair the damage.
Very interesting theory. But who would have access to the equipment that's needed to data mine and select E-Mails from one person to another out of the billions that are sent each year?
Sexual McCarthyism . . . catchy, I like it.
to come up with a unified line such as "How dare the people who collded and defended Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy, Mel Reynolds, etc try to claim the moral high ground here!" Look at my tagline for more.
I'm waiting for the GAY BACKLASH against the dems!
And .. the reason I'm waiting .. the gay's have been deadly silent about all the horrible statements the dems have made about gays during the past week! If I were the dems, I'd be more worried about the depressing of the gay vote.
The dems say we bash gays .. but the dems have done more gay-bashing in the past week than the repubs ever thought about.
Thx
Exactly! The moment I heard Bob Beckell on H&C associating homosexuals with pedophilia...and claiming someone should've been "watching" Foley, I knew it was time for the popcorn.
Echelon.
And it is nothing like the old rule book for behavior expected of heterosexuals with consenting members of the opposite sex.. Disturbing at the lest.
I didn't mean to be too critical, but it does make the reader wonder if the original author is one of those self-righteous advocates who point fingers at the GOP.
The left certainly sent out shock waves that could trigger an avalanche.
And still, there is not much predictability about which way the avalanche will send all its force toward.
More and more, the origin of this "scandal" appears to be the "war room" of the "Shan" (previously known as the "Former Occupant of the Oval Office, 1993-2001") under the direction of Rahm Emanuel. Nancy Pelosi should not escape scrutiny either.
Has Hitlary been meddling with underage female interns?
The Foley leak was played early.
Clinton pulled rank, and had it leaked ahead of time to get his own sleazy mug off the news.
In doing so - he probably saved the GOP from a November wipeout.
It's time for Republicans to really start to slam Democrats with this. Call it "homogate". Start bashing gays. No more defensive whining, and playing defense. Let Dems know that there can be a backlash - and that most Americans think they're a bunch of perverts to begin with.
This is the *wrong* time for Republicans to be quiet.
This morning there have been (several) references to the Gerry Studds sex with a male page scandal. That's a good start. Republicans really need to fight back.
"HOMOGATE" is a good word for this one. Just making gays the issue, is a winner for the GOP.
This is a rare chance to publicly bash gays - and get away with it.
Republicans should do so. Now.
Man, I can't stand this whining!
The FBI agent who wrote the book on the Clintons said she was caught with a young female staffer. Soon after the woman was killed in a mysterious robbery where no money was taken.
The man who walked in on Hillary and company got an ashtray thrown at his head.
I understand that, but WHO in the Democrat party would have access to it?
The ashtray must be Hillery's weapon of choice.
They do hate themselves...
This Gay bashing by the Democrats is just appalling! LOL!!!
Liberal hypocrites are dangerous to your health.
Movie popcorn with extra butter and loads of salt. Democrats equating homosexuals with pedophiles! Time to pop a beer too! Maybe an E-Mail to Beckel to thank him for his support for family values would be in order.
Perhaps the data they are mining comes from the 800 FBI files that Hillary Clinton's chief of security had when she was "Co-President."
How right you are!
They far left of the cRATs are as mean spirited as any group I have ever seen. I think it comes from having a belief system that is incongruent with life itself.
Like a little red button on a wool sweater. But seriously, O'donnell is doing what he and left say they hate. They are gay-bashing.
A lot dates back to what Wes Pruden at the Washington Times christened "The Golden Age of Clinton."
They bemoaned "the politics of personal destruction" while practicing it themselves in the most ruthless fashion. "The personal is political"- a shibboleth from the NOW gang- assures that one can't simply occupy a different position honorably- instead, one becomes The Enemy, to be destroyed at all costs.
Thanks for sharing.
That's why I avoid them.
Clinton was clearly wounded at least once.
Who would elect this she-devil to anything?
New Yorkers. *sigh*
According to both KGB and NSA archives McCarthy was right. The USA was full of russian spies during WWII.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
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