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Foley scandal is the nail in the GOP coffin
The Hill ^ | 10/4/06 | Morris

Posted on 10/04/2006 6:38:58 AM PDT by pabianice

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To: moose2004

Did Karl Marx say that? I thought it was George Santayana.


21 posted on 10/04/2006 6:46:49 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: pabianice

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In a curious way, the former Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) scandal will be to the Republican congressional leadership what the Monica Lewinsky imbroglio was to the Clinton presidency."

Not even close. On the one hand you have the President of the United States misbehaving. On the other you have one of the 438 members of the House. The isn't close to the same thing.


22 posted on 10/04/2006 6:46:50 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: pabianice

He is probably right, but as I have written here, a party cannot create a lasting governing majority based on the scandals of the other party. Realignments occur when great idealogical battles are won like in 1932 or 1980.

Even Watergate didnt benefit the defocrats after 1976. 4 short years after Nixons resignation, the GOP scored big wins in the 1978 midterms setting ther stage for Reagans 1980 landslide.

This will only encourage the defocrats to seek scandal rather than ideas as the way to electoral success..such succes is fleating.


I stick with my prediction for this election:

GOP -30 seats in the House
GOP -6 seats in the Senate


23 posted on 10/04/2006 6:46:51 AM PDT by DontBelieveAugPolls
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To: pabianice

Morris should know by now that the October before an election is "blitz month," in which the Democrats try to regain their long-lost power by inundating the public with hints of Republican scandal. By this time next week, Foley will have been forgotten and we'll be on to some new "scandal" that's sure to propel the Democrats back into power.


24 posted on 10/04/2006 6:47:05 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: pabianice; holdonnow
Last night Mark Levin made some excellent points. I'm paraphrasing, "Will the American people base their votes on health care, the WOT, National security ,the economy etc... on the emails of one congressman"?

I guess Morris thinks they will.

25 posted on 10/04/2006 6:47:09 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry ( The kinder we are to terrorists, the harsher we are to their potential victims.)
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To: pabianice
History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.
26 posted on 10/04/2006 6:48:00 AM PDT by samtheman (The Democrats are Instituting their own Guest Voter Program.)
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To: pabianice

If the GOP loses *BECAUSE* of the Foley scandal and *BECAUSE* the GOP conservative base sits out this one, it will be the fault of the conservatives if the next few years become a policy nightmare for America.

THINK folks, THINK !

1) This is the problem of ONE INDIVIDUAL --- Congressman Foley -- NOT THE ENTIRE PARTY, which has practically DISAVOWED HIM.

2) There was NO ATTEMPT at cover-up. Whatever e-mail evidence that has surfaced thus far is so UNCLEAR that to demand Foley's removal as you read the e-mails would be to accuse him of a crime you cannot prove.

3) The GOP should bring up the hypocrisy of the Democratic party. Foley WAS NEVER FOUND to have abused a youngster, while in the 1980's, a Democratic Congressman Studds WAS DISCOVERED TO HAVE COMMITED CHILD ABUSE ! THE EVIDENCE WAS BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. Yet, what did the Dims do ? They merely gave him a slap in the wrist and ALLOWED Studds to continue his term ( he eventually won several more elections to the eternal shame of his constituents until his retirement in 1996 ). Shall we forget the call boy ring that Barney Frank ran in the past ? Yet, here he is, still being allowed to vote to increase our taxes and still vote to social engineer this country to death.

My point is this conservative friends --- DO NOT CONFUSE THE ERROR OF FOLEY's ways with the entire GOP party. Punish Foley, not the GOP.

And think of what the ALTERNATIVE WILL BE LIKE IF YOU DECIDE TO SIT THIS ONE OUT !

If there is a nail to the GOP coffin, it will be because conservatives provided the hammer in 2006.


27 posted on 10/04/2006 6:48:08 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: pabianice

This smells like a toe sucking Democrat.


28 posted on 10/04/2006 6:48:20 AM PDT by hgro
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To: pabianice

Great day since Morris weighed in with his usual "sky is falling" for Republicans. If he told me the sky is blue, I would go check. When has he been right? What amazes me that there are any Freepers who still believe what he has to say! Once a Clintonite, always a Clintonite!

Yet to figure out how Foley who resigned immediately is going to affect races in places like Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, etc. I would say if you are a gay candidate in a Red State, you are doomed. Other than that, it shows by Hastert telling him to resign, that Republicans stand for values. Last I checked the Dims are still supporting Barney Frank and others.


29 posted on 10/04/2006 6:48:29 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners!)
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To: defconw; Mo1; Txsleuth; Miss Marple; Bahbah

*ping*


30 posted on 10/04/2006 6:48:56 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry ( The kinder we are to terrorists, the harsher we are to their potential victims.)
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To: pabianice

This smells like a toe sucking Democrat.


31 posted on 10/04/2006 6:49:14 AM PDT by hgro
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To: TonyInOhio

We're saved! I can't recall an election Dick has ever called right. In '04 he said Bush would cream Kerry in debates and this would be a big boost to his reelection. Then when Kerry ended up "winning" the first, and possibly all 3, debates, Morris said Kerry would win the election.

His '06 prediction though sounds like the mirror image of his take on the '98 election. Said GOP voters were so disgusted with Clinton they would turn out in huge numbers. With a straight face he actually predicted they would get to 60 seats in the Senate, and gain dozens of House seats. He could not have been more wrong and it sounds like he's done it again.

Yesterday on Sean's show he said Foley was going to be topic of conversation in every home in America. I have not heard one person mention this unless I bring it up first. I honestly think most Americans do not care and will not let this affect their vote.


32 posted on 10/04/2006 6:49:21 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: don'tbedenied
I've found Morris to be 100% correct in his predictions. This will be no different. Two days from now, he will write an article saying Foley scandal will have no effect on GOP. He does it with every prediction he makes. First he's *for*, then he's *against*. He thinks it's a win/win for him.
33 posted on 10/04/2006 6:49:29 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (The dems. can't have a fool-proof plan. There would be no one left in their base.)
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To: pabianice
And once again, the arrogant leaders of the Congress circled the wagons and looked the other way to avoid investigating or even recognizing the child abuser in their midst.

Although there are a couple of things I still think Hastert could have handled better...I don't see much in the way of 'circling the wagons' going on now or evidence that it happened beforehand either.
34 posted on 10/04/2006 6:49:44 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: SmoothTalker

youre missingthe point.

the stupid Foley scandal takes those issues off the front page. In Sep the GOP was making headway because of those issues, now they are the back burner. This only hurts the GOP.

As a result watch for Bush's approval numbers to fall as the Foley mess overshowds terrorism.

The Sheeple are extremely fickel


35 posted on 10/04/2006 6:49:59 AM PDT by DontBelieveAugPolls
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To: SirLinksalot

Link, the one true message the GOP should have on every poliitical ad is, if you stay home, Pelosi and the gang will appease terrorists and destroy America's military.


36 posted on 10/04/2006 6:50:02 AM PDT by Welike ike
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To: pabianice

As I recall the Dems GAINED seats in the 1998 elections. Yeah that Lewinsky scandal really hurt them that year. /s


37 posted on 10/04/2006 6:50:19 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: SirLinksalot

The stakes are too high, the GPO base is energized. Pelosi will never be speaker.


38 posted on 10/04/2006 6:50:24 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: DontBelieveAugPolls

Right, but there are 5 weeks, and the odds are a world event will put Security back in the Headlines.


39 posted on 10/04/2006 6:50:59 AM PDT by Welike ike
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To: pabianice


"There is no nail"- a matrix inspired comment.


This is pure tripe at the end of the day...those that have voted to defeat dems in the last several elections will not have changed their vote. So, like all past elections...the dems lose.


40 posted on 10/04/2006 6:51:21 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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