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Washington: Smoking Ban Crippling Local Casinos
kirotv.com ^ | August 16, 2006 | Chris Halsne

Posted on 09/30/2006 3:20:05 AM PDT by SheLion

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To: SheLion

Always nice to have coffee and a smoke in the morning with a FRiend, SL.

Bump to the thread, too. ;-D


41 posted on 09/30/2006 5:58:30 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: SheLion

I've followed this issue very closely for several years, enough to say what happens in the long-term.

Casinos and other gambling enterprises lose between 15% to 20% of revenue when smoking bans are introduced. Revenue slowly recovers to pre-ban levels after about two years (not to the rate revenue was increasing before but just to pre-ban levels) as some smokers adjust and more non-smokers go into the casinos.

Bars lose 20% of revenue on average and recover to pre-ban levels within about a year. The impact, however, is not general across the board. Some bars are effected very heavily and never recover. Others are not hit that hard and recover quicker and go on to increasing revenue in a short time.

Restaurants, however, seem to do better. The non-smoking environment brings more non-smokers in and restaurants most often see a 10% increase in business after a smoking ban.


42 posted on 09/30/2006 5:59:07 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: SheLion
A new financial study, conducted by our own KIRO Team 7 Investigators, discovers taxpayers could loose millions as well.

Was this article written by an angry FReeper?

43 posted on 09/30/2006 6:03:39 AM PDT by AnnaZ (Sh'ma Yisrael Adonai Elohaynu Adonai Echad)
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To: RegulatorCountry
The reservations are largely sovereign in such matters. I presume the tribal leadership sees the stupidity of it all, and refuses to follow suit.

Tobacco is one of the Four Sacred Plants, anyway.

It's cultural and appropriate for tobacco to have a place.

44 posted on 09/30/2006 6:13:14 AM PDT by Gorzaloon ("Illegal Immigrant": The Larval form of A Democrat.)
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To: SheLion
How many times have you heard that a state has to raise cigarette taxes to "balance the state budget?"

It allows them to be smugly superior, and feel good about Saving The Earth and Bringing the Workers' Paradise, while plundering a group who has fallen from disfavor and has no power.

45 posted on 09/30/2006 6:17:30 AM PDT by Gorzaloon ("Illegal Immigrant": The Larval form of A Democrat.)
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To: SheLion; sgtbono2002

Give me a second, I need to crank up the turntable so I can put on my broken record: These legislatures doing what we don't want them to do are the same legislatures who would be voting on naturalized citizens being eligible for the presidency and other possible constitutional amendments. They cannot be counted on to prevent a President Ahnold or President Jennifer, nor prevent James and Joseph from getting hitched across the land if it comes down to an amendment. The Framers assumed responsive state legislatures, but these are anything but.


46 posted on 09/30/2006 6:19:35 AM PDT by Dahoser (God bless our troops and at home defenders.)
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To: Kakaze
I got a email from the Marriot about 3 weeks ago indicating they were going "no smoking". I immediately canceled my "Rewards" card and canceled my currently reservations. I received the standard bla,bla,bla letter...hope ya' come back letter.

It's their choice to not provide "smoking rooms or areas" but it's my choice not to stay there.
47 posted on 09/30/2006 6:21:26 AM PDT by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: SheLion

Indian casinos are a rotten scam and no one will ever change my mind about these so called "sovereign nations" and the end run around US laws while they profit off of US citizens. 90% of casino tribes got their casinos via connected Democrat lawyers who greased the skids for them in various state legislatures and the federal government. Where rag tag bands of rascals with 25% Indian blood get tribal status - needed to get casinos


48 posted on 09/30/2006 6:24:21 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: Gorzaloon
could loose millions as well. Dammit, maybe I am a crank, and my spelling and grammar are not always perfect but this is really starting to make me crazy!

If that pet peeve makes you a crank, then I've been one for years! I've been railing against misuse of the apostrophe for 20 years myself. Dagnabbit, use an apostrophe for the possessive, not the plural!

49 posted on 09/30/2006 6:24:59 AM PDT by poindexter
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To: vetsvette
What causes that "slight positive"?

Stay at home smokers possibly saving more.

50 posted on 09/30/2006 6:33:32 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: SheLion

L.O.L....Non-smoking gambling casinos...only works in Vegas baby!...there are not enough gamblers in Washington to support it...trying to get tax money from thin air. Try something else Christine Haywire......


51 posted on 09/30/2006 6:40:13 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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I think this is fantastic. Let those anti-smoking nazi's figure something else out. How about taxing tofu and organics to make up the loss.

Wife and I stuck it to NJ by quitting smoking June 1. At nearly $7 a pack, I figure they've already lost a thousand bucks from us from the 5 dollar a pack in taxes.


52 posted on 09/30/2006 6:42:21 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: SheLion

Business at online gambling sites will increase.


53 posted on 09/30/2006 6:57:26 AM PDT by samtheman (The Democrats are Instituting their own Guest Voter Program.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
"Didn't I hear recently that Congress wants to outlaw on-line gambling?"

Yep..the article above is about Washington State...
The article below is also about Washington State...


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/271844_internetgambling27.html

This Summer in Washington State online gambling became a "Class C Felony".
54 posted on 09/30/2006 7:05:21 AM PDT by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: Black Birch
"What causes that "slight positive"?
Stay at home smokers possibly saving more."


That's a stretch worthy of Robert Rubin. If there's another Clintoon presidency, perhaps you should apply for a job justifying whatever economic BS with which they choose to burden us in the name of the common good.
55 posted on 09/30/2006 7:39:56 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: SheLion
Myers adds, “The playing field need to be leveled..."

Lather, rinse, repeat.

The only correct way to "level the playing field" is to roll back the assault on property rights, and let the owners decide whether to accommodate smokers.

56 posted on 09/30/2006 7:59:33 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Judith Anne
Always nice to have coffee and a smoke in the morning with a FRiend, SL.

Sometimes I think I need something a lot stronger then coffee to get through some of these threads.  LOL!!!

I'm sure you know what I mean!  :)

57 posted on 09/30/2006 8:15:50 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: JustDoItAlways
Restaurants, however, seem to do better. The non-smoking environment brings more non-smokers in and restaurants most often see a 10% increase in business after a smoking ban.

Sure, if they are a big chain that helps each other out with subsidiaries.  This isn't true of the smaller private business owners.

58 posted on 09/30/2006 8:17:37 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: AnnaZ
Was this article written by an angry FReeper?

Once again, no.  In fact, I don't know many FReeprs that don't use the spell check, do you?

59 posted on 09/30/2006 8:18:47 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: politicalwit
I got a email from the Marriot about 3 weeks ago indicating they were going "no smoking". I immediately canceled my "Rewards" card and canceled my currently reservations. I received the standard bla,bla,bla letter...hope ya' come back letter.

It's their choice to not provide "smoking rooms or areas" but it's my choice not to stay there.

Exactly right.  If smokers continue to boycott places that won't accommodate them, the loss of revenue is going to hurt.  And why should we spend hard earned money in a place of recreation that has a reform school setting?


60 posted on 09/30/2006 8:21:06 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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