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Washington: Smoking Ban Crippling Local Casinos
kirotv.com ^ | August 16, 2006 | Chris Halsne

Posted on 09/30/2006 3:20:05 AM PDT by SheLion

SEATTLE -- Non-tribal casinos have already lost tens of millions of dollars because of Washington’s new indoor smoking ban.

A new financial study, conducted by our own KIRO Team 7 Investigators, discovers taxpayers could loose millions as well.

Card-rooms, charity bingo halls, and some bars and restaurants are required to report financial information to the state every year. The state hasn't had a chance to look at the figures since the smoking ban took effect. I have. It looks like "no smoking" means economic devastation for the non-tribal gaming industry.

If there was ever any doubt that gamblers are also smokers, these numbers put that to rest.

KIRO Team 7 Investigators have been tracking revenue figures for 30 of the largest non-tribal casinos in Washington.

Before the smoking ban, that group had been averaging increased revenues of 13 percent the first 6 months of each year. Since the ban, instead of jumping up another 13 percent, gross revenues fell 14 percent.

“It’s killing us!”, says Tom Myers of the All-Star Casino & Lanes in Silverdale. He figures his poker room profits are down about 30 percent. Bar revenues have slipped worse than that.

Myers told KIRO Team 7 Investigators, “I'd like to be optimistic and think it will come back or at least level out, but the way the trend is, it's continually declining. You'll see more and more shut down. The stronger ones will survive, but the little-guy that’s creating, in here there are about 60 jobs alone, those jobs are going to go bye-bye if things go that way.”

Our exclusive research also found that during the first six months of telling gamblers that have to go outside to light up:

29 of the 30 biggest non-tribal casinos reported declining revenue. Several reported losses in excess of 40 percent.

“It’s devastating.” Says Dolores Chiechi of the Washington Recreational Gaming Association.

She says a half dozen casinos have already shut the doors & more are in real financial trouble. She adds many customers are heading to tribal casinos where they can smoke without leaving the table.

“They're definitely feeling the crunch because those who do gamble will always have somewhere else to go. They’ll go to the tribe casinos because they don't have to comply with the initiative rules that passed in November.”

The revenue shift is hard on state and local tax coffers as well. Tribal gaming operations pay about 2 percent back in local taxes. Non-tribal card rooms can pay up to 20 percent of gross receipts to taxes.

Myers adds, “The playing field need to be leveled. It's so lop-sided one way. It's tough to pay the bills let alone the taxes plus everything else you have to take care of to stay open.”

Ironically, Several of Washington's largest youth sports associations will likely also be seeing a dip in revenue this year.

Charity Bingo halls generate the majority of income for some local soccer, football, and swimming clubs.

Early figures show nearly every bingo hall in the state has lost money.


The State Gambling Commission is just now starting to look at the same numbers we've been crunching. That agency expects a full, detailed report in 6-8 weeks.


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To: dennisw
Indian casinos are a rotten scam and no one will ever change my mind about these so called "sovereign nations" and the end run around US laws while they profit off of US citizens. 90% of casino tribes got their casinos via connected Democrat lawyers who greased the skids for them in various state legislatures and the federal government. Where rag tag bands of rascals with 25% Indian blood get tribal status - needed to get casinos

Well, better the American Indian then the billions of illegals we have running around this Country of ours and living off of OUR welfare and health system!

61 posted on 09/30/2006 8:23:45 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Malsua
Wife and I stuck it to NJ by quitting smoking June 1. At nearly $7 a pack, I figure they've already lost a thousand bucks from us from the 5 dollar a pack in taxes.

Well, instead of giving up something I truly enjoy............I started rolling my own over 4 years ago.  I can roll a beautiful carton of cigarettes for under $8 dollars and I am not paying into the state coffers anymore.

Maine charges $2.00 dollars on one pack today.  $46 dollars for a carton of Doral's.  Rolling my own saves me a lot of money!

62 posted on 09/30/2006 8:26:10 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Madame Dufarge
The only correct way to "level the playing field" is to roll back the assault on property rights, and let the owners decide whether to accommodate smokers.

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!

63 posted on 09/30/2006 8:27:29 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Madame Dufarge
I was just thinking about you. Thanks for stopping in!!!!
64 posted on 09/30/2006 8:28:11 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

Casino's pay taxes in excess of a million dollars a MONTH to their respective states. How can they justify losing even part of that tax revenue???? And, oh gee, I wonder where the states will turn to make up that revenue?


65 posted on 09/30/2006 9:23:02 AM PDT by gidget7 (Political Correctness is Marxism with a nose job)
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To: vetsvette
If there's another Clintoon presidency, perhaps you should apply for a job justifying whatever economic BS with which they choose to burden us in the name of the common good.

My, my your a little touchy. I am just speaking from experience. I cleared my head and my lungs after some 20 years of smoking. I would be better off economically if I had never smoked and gone bar hopping in my younger days. I would have a little more in my retirement account, maybe a little nicer house, car and better teeth.

66 posted on 09/30/2006 9:23:10 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: SheLion
You're so sweet, She.

I'm sorry I haven't been around more, forgive me.....

67 posted on 09/30/2006 2:03:33 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
I'm sorry I haven't been around more, forgive me.....

I have missed you two!!!!  It gets lonely in here. 

Anyway, come in when you can.  I know how busy you are!!!  Can't believe it's the 1st of October already.

Good grief.  Christmas right around the corner!!!

68 posted on 10/01/2006 4:59:20 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: SheLion

Hey Mom! Tell us the story of how when the doctor, who you made co-payments to, told you to quit smoking and you laughed in his face! That was a good story! Mom? Mom? (thud) Mom? Mom? Mom? Angie call 911!


69 posted on 10/01/2006 4:20:38 PM PDT by at bay ("We actually did an evil....." Eric Schmidt, CEO Google)
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To: Malsua
Wife and I stuck it to NJ by quitting smoking June 1. At nearly $7 a pack, I figure they've already lost a thousand bucks from us from the 5 dollar a pack in taxes.

Are you serious about $5/pack tax? Where else does NJ soak you? I thought Ohio was a tax hell.

70 posted on 10/06/2006 12:29:02 PM PDT by MSM Hater (Shame on Senators DeRino and VRinovich!)
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