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Kerry: "Language Used By Both Sides In Abortion-Rights Debate Often Misleading And Unconstructive"
Medical News Today ^ | 21 Sep 2006

Posted on 09/21/2006 9:18:35 AM PDT by presidio9

Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), who supports abortion rights, on Monday during a speech at Pepperdine University in Malibu, Calif., said both abortion-rights supporters and abortion-rights opponents sometimes use "misleading and unconstructive" language and urged both sides to find "common ground," on the issue, the Boston Globe reports (Klein, Boston Globe, 9/19). Kerry during an interview in July 2004, while running for president, said, "I oppose abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life does begin at conception. ... But I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist ... who doesn't share it. We have separation of church and state in the United States of America." Kerry has a 100% voting record with NARAL Pro-Choice America and frequently has spoken of his commitment to abortion rights (Kaiser Daily Women's Health Policy Report, 7/6/04). Gary Bauer, president of the conservative American Values group, said he doesn't "want to discourage anyone from giving a speech in moving in my direction, but this is one of these issues where words aren't enough." Kerry in the Senate has voted against bills that would restrict abortion rights. NARAL Pro-Choice America President Nancy Keenan said Kerry's speech highlights what her group "has been saying for years: This decision is a personal one between a woman, her family, her doctor and her God." Kerry after the speech said he is aiming to push advocates on both sides of the abortion rights debate to "be more honest about the complexity of the moral decision here" and understand the genuineness of one another's convictions.


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1 posted on 09/21/2006 9:18:36 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Kerry is too infirm of purpose to pull off triangulation. Or anything else, for that matter.


2 posted on 09/21/2006 9:19:28 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (Mark 5:9)
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To: presidio9

So he was for Abortion before he is against it? Sort of. If we vote for him maybe he will be.


3 posted on 09/21/2006 9:19:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ann Coulter: "I love Freepers!" Told to Freeper eeevil Conservative)
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To: presidio9
I oppose abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life does begin at conception. ... But I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist ... who doesn't share it. We have separation of church and state in the United States of America.

Then how can you legislate against theft, murder, terrorism, etc..?

4 posted on 09/21/2006 9:20:42 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: presidio9

Boy he's ridiculous.


5 posted on 09/21/2006 9:20:56 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; Mr. Silverback; 8mmMauser; wideawake; wagglebee; Aquinasfan; ...

ping


6 posted on 09/21/2006 9:21:53 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9
I gave up trying to figure out what he actually means in 2004. I think America did too.
7 posted on 09/21/2006 9:22:18 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: presidio9
understand the genuineness of one another's convictions.

LOL!

Kerry arguing for "genuineness" is like Hillary arguing for tenderness.

It's a foreign language.

8 posted on 09/21/2006 9:23:12 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: presidio9
On a Catholic note, Mr. Kerry, you may want to reread this:

James 2:26

For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

9 posted on 09/21/2006 9:23:44 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: presidio9

Kerry speaks out of both sides of his mouth.


10 posted on 09/21/2006 9:24:37 AM PDT by syriacus (If the Pope meant to insult Muslims he would have discussed mustaches.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
But I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist ... who doesn't share it.

Actually, from what I understand practicing Jews and the serious Protestant denominations are pro-life as well. What he really means is that most of his support comes from athiests and self-worshipers.

Did you know he was in Vietnam?

11 posted on 09/21/2006 9:25:27 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9
(Kerry)- - - "I believe life does begin at conception. ... But I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist ... who doesn't share it."

On what basis does he believe "life begins at conception"? If he believed it as a scientific fact (as I do) - that there is an unbroken chain of human development between conception and birth - then why would there be a hindrance to legislating on that belief.

12 posted on 09/21/2006 9:25:50 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: presidio9

What's honest about saying life begins at conception but being unwilling
to lift a finger to protect it?


13 posted on 09/21/2006 9:27:25 AM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: presidio9

As far as I know the only religion that is borderline on the issue is Unitarian. So again he talks outta his butt.


14 posted on 09/21/2006 9:27:57 AM PDT by fml
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To: FairWitness
NARAL Pro-Choice America President Nancy Keenan said Kerry's speech highlights what her group "has been saying for years: This decision is a personal one between a woman, her family, her doctor and her God."

Is she saying that NARL worships Satan?

15 posted on 09/21/2006 9:28:03 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

Het turd burglar kerry! It is murder end of story! If you read your Bible like a professed Catholic such as you say you are you would know that without a doubt.


16 posted on 09/21/2006 9:29:02 AM PDT by vpintheak (Yep.)
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To: presidio9
Or better yet, Mr. Kerry, you may want to reread this:

James 2:20

Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless?

17 posted on 09/21/2006 9:30:13 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: presidio9

Dont kill your unborn children, no matter how screwed up your own life is. Its a sin against God.

Is that misleading? If you consider it unconstructive then you need to read your bible more. This is a very simple, honest and moral thing to decide.

Kerry is still an idiot.


18 posted on 09/21/2006 9:30:56 AM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: presidio9
urged both sides to find "common ground,"

OK, John, how about we all agree that partial birth abortion is a hideous abomination, and outlaw it. About three-quarters of the US agrees with that, so let's find common ground there.

19 posted on 09/21/2006 9:32:09 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: presidio9

Will I ever just stfu?

20 posted on 09/21/2006 9:32:23 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: Delta 21


The good news is every time he talks about his Catholicism, he makes more Catholics think about voting Republican.


21 posted on 09/21/2006 9:32:36 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

"Unconstructive" Huh..??? Is that a word?


22 posted on 09/21/2006 9:34:28 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: presidio9
He's not really a faithful Catholic if he thinks abortion is a part of his public calling.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

23 posted on 09/21/2006 9:35:06 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: presidio9
Kerry: "Language Used By Both Sides In Abortion-Rights Debate Often Misleading And Unconstructive"

Misleading? Like the term "abortion rights", for example?

24 posted on 09/21/2006 9:36:18 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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To: presidio9

Kerry's a jerk just like Clinton, but Clinton is/was a lot more clever. Clinton was on Larry King bashing Pope Benedict last night, just like he bashed John Paul II. It was so funny, in the middle of it he started, literally, to choke.


25 posted on 09/21/2006 9:39:36 AM PDT by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: presidio9
I believe life does begin at conception. ... But I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist ... who doesn't share it.

When life begins is a QUANTIFIABLE FACT. It is not subject to opinion polls.

Whether it is to be dignified and granted rights is what the politicians are deciding. Same as with any "quality of life" issue.

I hate this lying scumbag traitor. John Kerry betrayed America.

26 posted on 09/21/2006 9:42:12 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: presidio9
Kerry after the speech said he is aiming to push advocates on both sides of the abortion rights debate to "be more honest about the complexity of the moral decision here" and understand the genuineness of one another's convictions.

He could have saved everyone's time and just said "I'm running again."

27 posted on 09/21/2006 9:47:21 AM PDT by freespirited (Have you hugged a terrorist today? 1-800-JMC-CAIN)
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To: presidio9
"misleading and unconstructive"

Isn't that Kerry's entire life?

28 posted on 09/21/2006 9:47:42 AM PDT by American in Singapore (Bill Clinton: The Human Stain)
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To: frogjerk

The truly scary thing is that there was a day when abortion supporters realized that admitting human life begins at conception was to lose the debate. Now, they think they can give on that point and still have a case. How morally bankrupt.

The only possible argument for abortion is to say the 'life' that begins at conception is not truly 'human.' That of course runs aground of basic biology but there are philosophical and theologicaly precedents to twist in that direction.


29 posted on 09/21/2006 9:50:26 AM PDT by Rippin
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To: TChris
Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), who supports abortion rights, on Monday during a speech at Pepperdine University in Malibu, Calif., said both abortion-rights supporters and abortion-rights opponents sometimes use "misleading and unconstructive" language and urged both sides to find "common ground," on the issue, the Boston Globe reports (Klein, Boston Globe, 9/19).

I noticed the same thing. The writer states that John Kerry "said both abortion-rights supporters and abortion-rights opponents sometimes use "misleading and unconstructive" language...". Now, if John Kerry actually used the terms, "abortion rights" and "abortion rights opponents" (I can't tell from this article if he actually did) then he and the writer both used the preferred loaded pro-abortion killing terminology of the media which paints pro-life advocates as opponents of "rights". Which is just another way of saying that Kerry would have been for "misleading and unconstructive" language before he was against it in the same sentence.

Cordially,

30 posted on 09/21/2006 9:50:36 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: khnyny
Hillary Clinton has Benedict XVI's Back
31 posted on 09/21/2006 9:51:43 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I do not support abortion in any form but, when it come to John Kerry I just wonder what his mother was thinking when she gave birth to this heretical POS?


32 posted on 09/21/2006 9:53:01 AM PDT by buck61
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To: presidio9

"Hi, I'm John Kerry and I've rubbed ashes on my forehead just like
the common people do on Ash Wednesday."

33 posted on 09/21/2006 9:56:34 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: savedbygrace
"Hi, I'm John Kerry and I've rubbed ashes on my forehead just like the common people do on Ash Wednesday."

When I was in high school, one of the Jesuits liked to point out that Ash Wednesday (not a Holy Day) and Palm Sunday were typically the busiest days in most churches, because social Catholics only bother going when they get some sort of free handout.

34 posted on 09/21/2006 9:59:39 AM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: frogjerk
On a Catholic note, Mr. Kerry, you may want to reread this: James 2:26 For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

Right On.

35 posted on 09/21/2006 10:06:33 AM PDT by Digger
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To: presidio9

Is he suggesting that abortion is not murder?


36 posted on 09/21/2006 10:19:58 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: presidio9

How dare him impose his beliefs on me with regard to guns, taxes, property rights, employment decisions, etc. The left disavows moral policy making only when it suits their agenda. He is a disingenuous boob, and he appeals only to the smallest intellect in this country.


37 posted on 09/21/2006 11:13:38 AM PDT by Clump
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To: presidio9

Sometimes there is no "common ground". I would semi-respect an abortion rights activist who had the guts to say, "A fetus is a form of human life, but we think the woman carrying the fetus has the right to have the fetus removed for any reason she likes". Good luck getting anyone honest and brave enough to spell out what supporting abortion on demand really means!


38 posted on 09/21/2006 11:17:10 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: presidio9
Kerry after the speech said he is aiming to push advocates on both sides of the abortion rights debate to "be more honest about the complexity of the moral decision here" and understand the genuineness of one another's convictions.

I'm sure he'd feel the same way of the issue was white-supremacy, anti-semitism, of global warming.....

39 posted on 09/21/2006 12:22:57 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: presidio9

Thanks for the link, but I will never believe anything Hillary Clinton says. If she is being sincere, she better get her "husband" on the same page or tell him to STFU.


40 posted on 09/21/2006 1:30:33 PM PDT by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: khnyny

Hillary Clinton "being sincere?" Does not compute.


41 posted on 09/21/2006 1:31:39 PM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: Diamond


I always try to use the term "pro-abortion" instead of "pro-choice," because with every abortion there are two people who have no say in the matter whatsoever: The baby and his/her father.


42 posted on 09/21/2006 1:37:27 PM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9
Pinged from Terri SEPTEMBER Dailies

8mm

43 posted on 09/22/2006 4:34:55 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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