Posted on 07/06/2006 8:21:34 AM PDT by ShadowAce
The foreign clone Linux has stolen lots of business from US businesses like Sun, who has laid off thousands of engineers, while the Linux mob cheered.
Sun did what few expected though, and released their Solaris O/S under a (non-GPL) open source license, which has seriously slowed Linux's momentum.
While it's unfortunate they had to open up their intellectial property to the rest of the world, and did considerably lower their future earnings as they would have existed sans Linux, it did pretty much guarantee Sun wouldn't be completely destroyed by the foreign clone.
So while Sun's future is nowhere as bright as it would have been, they did counter the Linux threat without having to GPL their code or open source the the final shipping product. Kudos to them, and best wishes to other US companies combatting foreign clones like Linux.
BTW, if you follow the sun when it sets to see where it went and keep walking, it will dawn on you.
So all those prior statements of yours implying if sun falls it will be mainly because of Linux are incorrect?
Yes, they do. If you want to make a Java interpreter, it had better be with Sun's blessing, and they will enforce strict compatibility. Sun brought Microsoft to heel over that issue.
The fact that you can read Sun's code doesn't affect Sun's ownership.
The question was asked by someone not quite so versed in the nuances.
IF Sun falls it will be because of Linux, which has already devistated if not destroyed other US companies like SCO, Silicon Graphics, and Cray. Sun is simply too large and diversified, and Apple has diversified itself the last couple of years as well. They are still being damaged by Linux, but probably won't be completely destroyed thankfully. Too bad for the foreigner behind Linux, Linus Torvalds, who has always claimed his ultimate goal is "total world domination".
how do "IF Sun falls it will be because of Linux" and "I was simply showing how miniscule these Linux companies are when compared to Sun, since the article infers they will lead to their downfall, when in reality Sun could buy any of them with the stroke of the pen." live in the same thread?
Cognitive dissonance
I guess you didn't notice the past tense.
IBM's Linux-related sales alone (not counting the rest of the company). Red hat alone is looking at $300 million for this year (and they don't add hardware sales like Sun). And don't forget, Sun ships Linux too.
Obviously I don't think Sun will fail, they suffered huge losses as Linux devestated many of the US Unix businesses, but it's momemtum has slowed and the latest server sales reports showed Sun's revenue rising, as I already indicated.
Linux was created by a foreigner so that he wouldn't have to pay the US software companies for our products.
Linux was created by a foreigner so that he wouldn't have to pay for an OS written by another foreigner.
Silicon Graphics, Cray, SCO,
And of course forgetting that 1) SGI and Cray died because of hardware (blame Intel and AMD), and 2) SCO started as a poorly-managed Linux company that bought the UNIX business only to get good distribution channels for Linux.
How could I be John Kerry, when the severs for John Kerry and the DNC all run on Linux? No, I'm much more of a RNC kind of guy, that likes to expose the left. Look at this thread, for example, from your buddy that just showed up.
Democrats ahead of Republicans on Open Source?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1016247/posts
You might note he made that title up.
Simple, you make contradicting statements in the same conversation and try to justify it..
I haven't contradicted anything. Linux is obviously damaging Sun but isn't going to destroy it like it has others, whether you guys keep posting threads like this or not.
That was a total troll and I'm suprized you are the only one who bit :)
LOL! I kinda thought that. I figure that if GE hadn't shown up, others would've bit as well.
Python+Django>Rails. But they're all good; I'm pleased to see high level dynamic languages gaining momentum.
Sun is in the process of open sourcing Java. Eventually, it will be an open project, which should ensure its survival.
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