Posted on 07/05/2006 8:54:20 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
MIDLAND, Texas - A former Army private accused in the horrific rape and killing of a young Iraqi woman and the execution-style slaying of her family had been discharged because of an "antisocial personality disorder," U.S. military officials told The Associated Press.
Investigators say Steven D. Green and other soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division plotted to rape a young Iraqi woman they first saw at a traffic checkpoint in the village of Mahmoudiya. Green is accused of rounding up three family members in a room of the woman's house and shooting them before raping and killing her.
Previously, in a federal court affidavit, investigators said only that the 21-year-old Green had been given an honorable discharge for a "personality disorder" this spring before the March murder case came to light.
But U.S. military officials who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case said late Tuesday it was an "antisocial personality disorder." They did not elaborate.
In the West Texas town of Midland where Green grew up, few people offered details of his life.
Green's father, John, told the AP that attorneys have advised him not to publicly talk about the case against his son, who was charged with rape and four counts of murder Monday in a federal courtroom in Charlotte, N.C.
But one resident — a former Marine — hoped the accusations against Steven D. Green don't reflect poorly on the soldiers still serving in Iraq.
"I don't care where he's from; this gives us a black eye," said Shaun Sanders, who spent 14 months in the Middle East and Africa and now lives in the building by Green's family but did not know him. "To hear a story of something like this happen in this particular region, at this particular time, is not good."
Greg Simolke told The Washington Post that his nephew had visited relatives in North Carolina last week on his way to and from a funeral at Arlington National Cemetery for a member of his platoon who was killed in Iraq.
"When he was here for this visit, he seemed like the same old Steve," Simolke told the Post. "I don't understand what happens in a war, so I don't know how these things happen."
Relatives told the newspaper that Green had grown up in Midland and joined the Army after receiving his GED. He went to Fort Benning, Ga., for infantry training and graduated in June 2005, his family said.
"He had found direction in his life, something important and something that he really wanted to do," Simolke told the Post. "He was talking about making the military his career and was ready to go to Iraq. He thought it was a good thing to be serving his country."
Green was arrested Friday at a relative's home in Marion, about 75 miles northwest of Charlotte, but authorities wouldn't disclose the relative's name. Mary Simolke, Green's grandmother who lives near Marion, declined comment.
According to an affidavit, the funeral Green was attending in Arlington was for one of the two soldiers whose mutilated bodies were found June 19, three days after they were abducted by insurgents near Youssifiyah, southwest of Baghdad.
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AP Writer Ryan Lenz in Iraq contributed to this report.
Is this a disease? It sounds exactly like liberalism.
If a crime truly occurred here (that is,something that wasn't due to the fog of war or legitimate combat) then the ones responsible should be hanged.
Yep, they should be handed over to the Iraqi government to deal with as they see fit. If anything remotely like what is alleged actually happened, it had absolutely nothing to do with the perps military duties, and is not due any legal or diplomatic protection that is normally afforded to military personnel.
These guys were from the same battalion as the two soliders who were kidnapped, tortured, and killed. Does anybody really think that's a coincidence? I think not; I think the kidnap/torture/murder was retaliation. If the accused soldiers actually did what is alleged, they have a lot more blood on their hands than just the family they murdered.
I'm really torn about this. We've been lied to constantly by the MSM. They are doing a happy dance over these allegations, and I do not trust anything they say.
This soldier could have a psychological disorder that wasn't discovered, though. Would it be enough to push him over the edge and commit such a horrible crime?
Think I'll just wait on some substantiated information.
But U.S. military officials who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case said late Tuesday it was an "antisocial personality disorder." They did not elaborate
Courts Martial these SOBs too. They spoke with anonymity because to do so is illegal.
At first I thought these allegations couldn't possibly be true, if only because one person might commit such a heinous crime but why would three or four others also plot and plan the crime together. My sister and I were discussing this this morning and she suggested that perhaps when young men are together in a unit for a while the bad apples somehow congregate because others avoid them after getting to know them. The MSM is reveling in the damage this does to the military and the war, but I do think murders were committed in this case.
Sometimes, I wonder if the enemy reads these threads, and then learns that they need to ramp up their story to make it more beleivable.
It's like we're a voluneer polling pool.
It could make you wonder if all of this is being put out as a justification for the appalling torture they inflicted on two brave soldiers...
I'll wait to decide until the official reports are published.
Pinz
Sounds bad. But I'll wait for the investigation.
Obviously, if guilty, he should hang.
Antisocial personality or not, he commited a disgusting crime, he should be handed over to the iraqi and he should hang. The last thing we need is to protect scum like this. I don't care if he served the country. What he did hurt our cause a lot more than his service helped.
We should show the world that we do not tolerate criminals in our military.
We have been *told* that he committed a disgusting crime.
And we have been *told* by the same people who have lied repeatedly and deliberately about many matters, in order to undermine this administration, and in order to demoralize our soldiers and our citizens about this war.
I will wait for a final official report.
If I have to choose between trusting the honesty of the American media, or the honesty of Sec. Rumsfeld, I will choose Rumsfeld every time.
Is that a clear enough explanation? Rumsfeld has much personal and professional honor invested in the behavior of our military members. I will trust his judgement in the investigation and resolution of this matter.
I don't trust *any* media reports on any of these *crimes.*
Pinz
It is not illegal for military officials to speak to the press on background.
It is likely that the "antisocial personality disorder" was a diagnosis of sociopath or narcissistic personality disorder.
Then read the criminal complaint from the Justice Department.
It has not been influenced by the MSM.
I'm not sure about that. Sounds like a Privacy Act violation to me. DD214 is subject to that as is his diagnosis from the Doc.
Well, I don't know about violations of the Privacy Act, but it would seem that the reason for his discharge would be a matter of public record.
Thanks for the link.
Pinz
Ever serve in the military? The UCMJ says otherwise.
Green was discharged from the military. The Justice Department is not bound by the UCMJ.
"Well, I don't know about violations of the Privacy Act, but it would seem that the reason for his discharge would be a matter of public record."
I'm not gonna swear to it but I do not think that is the case. Type of discharge is public record, reason for discharge is another matter, I believe. I was in personnel in the Navy and prepared a fair amount of paperwork including DD124s. When I was in, the top, "original" copy (carbon paper back then)of the DD214 did not have that info on it. The extended footer-type part on the second copy had that info. Not for public eyes, if I remember correctly. Maybe someone can help me out.
Every branch of service and Commands within have a guidance policy on dealing with media inquiries. The policy is to refer them to the Public Affairs people. The "unnamed military officials" cited in the article disobeyed a lawful order. That's an Article 92 violation.
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