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Fingerprint ID helping to combat identity theft
WNDU ^ | 07/03/2006 | UNATTRIBUTED

Posted on 07/03/2006 2:53:37 PM PDT by APRPEH

Identity theft has become a billion dollar global problem. Now however, there is a new strategy based on a very old way of accurately identifying someone.
Forget pictures, forget badges, even passwords; all you need is literally, at your fingertips.

The device from Digital Defense can hold all your personal information, and protects it using your fingerprint.

For example, your credit card company decides to utilize the new technology. Therefore, the next time you make a purchase, you would have to place your finger onto the card reader.

A green light means a go; your purchase will go through.

If someone else tries to do it, a no go, which makes signing up for new credit cards more intense, and therefore difficult for identity thieves.

"Instead of mailing the card to you, you would most likely need to go to the merchant or the issuer of the card, first of all, for identity validation, to make sure that you are you," explains Richard Ouaknine of the Digital Defense Group. "The second process is to enroll your fingerprints directly to the card."

The card is about the size of three regular cards stacked together. It would require a backup in case you lose it.

Also, the reader is configured to measure electrical properties in your body, so only your live finger can activate it.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: fingerprint; identitytheft; idtheft; personalsecurity
Also, the reader is configured to measure electrical properties in your body, so only your live finger can activate it.

okay, so lets not "break off" into talk about cutting fingers off to fool the device...

1 posted on 07/03/2006 2:53:42 PM PDT by APRPEH
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To: APRPEH
Man I can see the outrage from the left over this.

Credit card fingerprint database turned over to feds without a warrant.

They caught me for murder because of my credit card, this is un constitutional. /S

2 posted on 07/03/2006 2:58:04 PM PDT by rocksblues (Liberals will stop at nothing.)
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To: APRPEH
Something must be done about identity theft. Simple text data like date of birth, mother's maiden name, etc are simply too easy to duplicate.

Something should connect the physical person to the transaction. Public key encryption is also a possibility to be considered.

And then there is the perrenial question about identification of voters . . .


3 posted on 07/03/2006 3:05:41 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: APRPEH

What with North Korean counterfeiting, it would seem that this might become the only way to keep our economy above water. Currency can only be so difficult to counterfeit, and nothing prevents a government from accomplishing it if it is determined enough.


4 posted on 07/03/2006 3:13:19 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Biometrics are used for classified material. Sounds like a promising approach.


6 posted on 07/03/2006 3:19:23 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: APRPEH
Image hosted by Photobucket.com they are making this WAY more complicated than it needs to be.

your print should be on file at the BANK not on the card.

when it sends the card number and charge into the bank, it sends your print scan too... no need for bulky cards with backups etc. that's just a money scam.

7 posted on 07/03/2006 4:39:28 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Chode
Your print should be on file at the BANK not on the card.

I beg to disagree. Any personal data held by a third party is insecure, because the thief can always find an employee who will sell them the data. That's how most identity theft happens in the first place.

Anything I give the bank I want protected by one-way encryption using open source technology certified by an independent professional body. And if the bank is Citibank, I want the manager's firstborn child as my hostage.

8 posted on 07/03/2006 7:38:25 PM PDT by John Locke
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To: APRPEH
Mr. Tsutomo Matsumoto at Yokohama University created the idea of "gummy fingers", an inexpensive technique for creating duplicate fingerprints:

[PDF] Impact of Artificial "Gummy" Fingers on Fingerprint Systems

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impossible to measure. The compliance was also examined for live and gummy fingers. ... Gummy fingers, which are easy to make with cheep, easily ...
web.mit.edu/6.857/OldStuff/Fall03/ref/gummy-slides.pdf - Similar pages

"Gummy Fingers" Fool Fingerprint Readers

A Japanese amateur scientist fools fingerprint recognition devices by molding a "gummy" replica of a human finger from the popular candy.
www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,13730,00.asp - 87k - Cached - Similar pages

Crypto-Gram: May 15, 2002

Gummy fingers can even fool sensors being watched by guards. ... (Moistening the gummy finger helps defeat sensors that measure moisture or electrical ...
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This hacker's got the gummy touch | CNET News.com

Matsumoto calls the result, a flat lozenge of gelatin, a "gummy finger," and it ... Such a technique requires access to someone's finger to make the gummy ...
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totse.com | Impact of Artificial "Gummy" Fingers on Fingerprint ...

This paper reports that gummy fingers, namely artificial fingers that are ... We describe how to make the molds, and then show that the gummy fingers, ...
www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/locks_and_security/164704.html - 64k - Cached - Similar pages

The Atlantic | September 2002 | Homeland Insecurity | Mann

Gummi Fingers. Tsutomu Matsumoto, a Japanese cryptographer, recently decided to look at biometric fingerprint devices. These are security systems that ...
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Citations: Impact of Artificial Gummy Fingers on Fingerprint ...

T. Matsumoto et al., Impact of Artificial Gummy Fingers on Fingerprint Systems, Proc. SPIE, Optical Security and Counterfeit Deterrence Techniques IV, vol.
citeseer.ifi.unizh.ch/context/2190153/0 - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

Detectors licked by gummy fingers : Nature

Nature is the international weekly journal of science: a magazine style journal that publishes full-length research papers in all disciplines of science, ...
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[PPT] The Biometric Dilemma

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Option: gelatin (“gummy fingers” used by Matsumoto); Option: silicone (used by Willis; Thalheim) ... You can place the “gummy finger” over your real finger. ...
www.smat.us/crypto/docs/bh-us-02-smith-biometric.ppt - Similar pages

(Sorry, some of those require a subscription to access.)


9 posted on 07/03/2006 8:48:21 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
"And then there is the perrenial question about identification of voters . . ."

Well, the Democrats say that anything to do with voters proving their identity is intimidating and amounts to harassment.

10 posted on 07/03/2006 8:58:29 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: snowsislander

wow.. thanks for those links


11 posted on 07/04/2006 4:57:11 AM PDT by APRPEH (You and I have a rendezvous with destiny.)
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To: John Locke
the data can be sold anyway... the bank will keep it on file to make new cards from, so there's no need for it to be on a card that can be lost or stolen too.

i see the idea as a way to make money for the card makers and not so much as a safeguard for customers.

12 posted on 07/04/2006 5:31:04 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Chode

You are missing the real point here. Your fingerprint is kept on the card, not on a bank's computer. The reader compares your live fingerprint with the "picture" stored on the credit card. The reader does not access some huge database kept by a bank or the government.


13 posted on 07/04/2006 5:40:50 AM PDT by american_ranger
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To: american_ranger

the way i see it... all the bank needs is a print associated with a number.

you are verifying it's your number by print verification and readers only read live fingers.

with the print stored on the card... the card can be stolen and REPROGRAMMED with the crooks print on it.

no thanks. and no i don't trust banks either but there's less chance of it happening in the bank than in the wild.

but that's just me.


14 posted on 07/04/2006 6:07:30 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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