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Also, the reader is configured to measure electrical properties in your body, so only your live finger can activate it.

okay, so lets not "break off" into talk about cutting fingers off to fool the device...

1 posted on 07/03/2006 2:53:42 PM PDT by APRPEH
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To: APRPEH
Man I can see the outrage from the left over this.

Credit card fingerprint database turned over to feds without a warrant.

They caught me for murder because of my credit card, this is un constitutional. /S

2 posted on 07/03/2006 2:58:04 PM PDT by rocksblues (Liberals will stop at nothing.)
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To: APRPEH
Something must be done about identity theft. Simple text data like date of birth, mother's maiden name, etc are simply too easy to duplicate.

Something should connect the physical person to the transaction. Public key encryption is also a possibility to be considered.

And then there is the perrenial question about identification of voters . . .


3 posted on 07/03/2006 3:05:41 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: APRPEH

What with North Korean counterfeiting, it would seem that this might become the only way to keep our economy above water. Currency can only be so difficult to counterfeit, and nothing prevents a government from accomplishing it if it is determined enough.


4 posted on 07/03/2006 3:13:19 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com they are making this WAY more complicated than it needs to be.

your print should be on file at the BANK not on the card.

when it sends the card number and charge into the bank, it sends your print scan too... no need for bulky cards with backups etc. that's just a money scam.

7 posted on 07/03/2006 4:39:28 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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Mr. Tsutomo Matsumoto at Yokohama University created the idea of "gummy fingers", an inexpensive technique for creating duplicate fingerprints:

[PDF] Impact of Artificial "Gummy" Fingers on Fingerprint Systems

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impossible to measure. The compliance was also examined for live and gummy fingers. ... Gummy fingers, which are easy to make with cheep, easily ...
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"Gummy Fingers" Fool Fingerprint Readers

A Japanese amateur scientist fools fingerprint recognition devices by molding a "gummy" replica of a human finger from the popular candy.
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Crypto-Gram: May 15, 2002

Gummy fingers can even fool sensors being watched by guards. ... (Moistening the gummy finger helps defeat sensors that measure moisture or electrical ...
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This hacker's got the gummy touch | CNET News.com

Matsumoto calls the result, a flat lozenge of gelatin, a "gummy finger," and it ... Such a technique requires access to someone's finger to make the gummy ...
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totse.com | Impact of Artificial "Gummy" Fingers on Fingerprint ...

This paper reports that gummy fingers, namely artificial fingers that are ... We describe how to make the molds, and then show that the gummy fingers, ...
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The Atlantic | September 2002 | Homeland Insecurity | Mann

Gummi Fingers. Tsutomu Matsumoto, a Japanese cryptographer, recently decided to look at biometric fingerprint devices. These are security systems that ...
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Citations: Impact of Artificial Gummy Fingers on Fingerprint ...

T. Matsumoto et al., Impact of Artificial Gummy Fingers on Fingerprint Systems, Proc. SPIE, Optical Security and Counterfeit Deterrence Techniques IV, vol.
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Detectors licked by gummy fingers : Nature

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[PPT] The Biometric Dilemma

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Option: gelatin (“gummy fingers” used by Matsumoto); Option: silicone (used by Willis; Thalheim) ... You can place the “gummy finger” over your real finger. ...
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9 posted on 07/03/2006 8:48:21 PM PDT by snowsislander
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