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TX Governor: Perry - 41%; Strayhorn - 20%; Bell - 18%; Kinky Friedman - 16% (Survey USA)
SurveyUSA ^ | 5/22/06

Posted on 05/23/2006 9:20:02 AM PDT by LdSentinal

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1 posted on 05/23/2006 9:20:04 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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I'll be voting for governor Good Hair.


2 posted on 05/23/2006 9:25:41 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Dittos


3 posted on 05/23/2006 9:33:05 AM PDT by lormand (Michael Savage - The "turd in the punch bowl" of Conservatism)
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To: LdSentinal

Hope Kinky takes second just to show that a non-politican can beat the best RAT candidate statewide in Texas.

Ma and Pa Ferguson and LBJ would be rolling over in their graves.


4 posted on 05/23/2006 9:33:48 AM PDT by rod1
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To: LdSentinal

Kinky has my vote. And I'm not alone.

The incompetence of Texas state government is second only to Louisiana's.


5 posted on 05/23/2006 9:34:52 AM PDT by RichardW
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This is only going to get messier. As more and more people find out the tax increase we are getting, Perry's stock will continue to slip.


6 posted on 05/23/2006 9:39:19 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: RichardW

You hit the nail on the head!


7 posted on 05/23/2006 9:41:28 AM PDT by Sarajevo
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To: rod1

Something else, I heard that Strayhorn will try to run ot the right of Perry on property taxes, immigration, and the new business tax. She has a war chest and reportedly will use it.


8 posted on 05/23/2006 9:41:32 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: LdSentinal

"If the election for Governor of Texas were today, and you were standing in the voting booth right now . . ."

. . .I'd be sick to my stomach just looking at my choices.

This is TEXAS, for crying out loud! We should do better than this.


9 posted on 05/23/2006 9:44:53 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: RichardW
I am pretty disappointed in many thing the Texas government has done, but second to LA I think is a bit over the top.

I mean how would you like Washington or California's tax loads, (even though Texas' is higher than I'd like)? Let's see how about the out of control AG Spitzer and never meet a gun control proposal I didn't like governor in New York?
Hell, there's even that emiment domain wonderland up there in Connecticut, of course that may be coming to a town, city, or state near you. That's five I put ahead of TX in worseness, and that's just off the top of my head.
10 posted on 05/23/2006 9:46:11 AM PDT by thinkthenpost
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To: Hydroshock
I heard that Strayhorn will try to run ot the right of Perry on property taxes, immigration, and the new business tax.

While running to the left of him on spending, spending, and spending. No thanks.

This election looks to be over and I'm glad for it.
11 posted on 05/23/2006 9:47:08 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: RichardW
The incompetence of Texas state government is second only to Louisiana's.

Laughable nonsense. TX gov't is nothing to be proud of, but there are a hell of a lot of worse run and more corrupt states. And Perry has been working to overcome the inate problems of the gov't, not adding to them. Tort reform, redistricting, ending Robin Hood, and increased privatization are just a few or the things he's pushed through that have helped conservatives.

Further proof that Kinky's support is primarily from the perpetual crybabies, ignorants, and knee-jerks. George Washington, Abe Lincoln, and Jesus could be in office and ya'll would moan about how awful, corrupt, and betraying they are. The same gullible pouters who gave us Clinton via Perot, and didn't learn a darn thing.

12 posted on 05/23/2006 9:51:58 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Hydroshock
This is only going to get messier. As more and more people find out the tax increase we are getting, Perry's stock will continue to slip.

The average property tax cut is $2000. That message is already getting out there, and it will resonate much more than having to pay a tax when redoing your will.

13 posted on 05/23/2006 9:54:48 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: thinkthenpost

Texas's tax structure is almost evil it is so bad. We are getting ripped off right and left with the ridiculous real estate taxes and the sales taxes are equally absurd. So what does Perry do? He gets a further tax on businesses. How does that entice business into Texas? Besides, businesses don't pay taxes. We do.

My neighbors are from California and they look at the taxes here and just shake their heads. They will be voting for Kinky. I know a number of people who are otherwise conservative believe it is high time for a change.

If Strayhorn gets out of the race that brings Kinky into striking range of Perry's 41% assuming he picks up her votes. The Democratic candidate will be insignificant as the party here is essentially non-existent.

I went over to Baylor U. and listened to what he has to say and he made some excellent points and was well received by the audience. He will probably have to moderate his apparel somewhat but he is a breath of fresh air. I'm voting for him. We need the change. The alternative is to vote for the status quo which makes absolutely no sense.


14 posted on 05/23/2006 9:55:19 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: Hydroshock
Something else, I heard that Strayhorn will try to run ot the right of Perry on property taxes, immigration, and the new business tax. She has a war chest and reportedly will use it.

LOL!! Ma whatever-her-name-is-this-week has NO SOLUTIONS to the school funding mess that would pass the approval of the Texas SC. She wants to put video poker terminals at race tracks, and "close loopholes" (i.e., she's clueless) in the business tax as a way to fund schools. Is that not a joke?

She has about half of what Perry has on hand. Perry will draw more money, and Strayhorn will continue to drop.

Neither she nor Friedman are serious candidates, and Texans know it.

15 posted on 05/23/2006 9:59:40 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: RichardW
I went over to Baylor U. and listened to what he has to say and he made some excellent points and was well received by the audience. He will probably have to moderate his apparel somewhat but he is a breath of fresh air. I'm voting for him. We need the change.

We need a drug-addled fool as governor of Texas?

I notice you gripe about property taxes, then gloss right over the 30% property tax cut just passed.

Just what does Kinky propose to do about school funding? Nothing. He is even more clueless than Ma Strayhorn is, yet supposedly intelligent people want to make Texas a laughingstock by putting Don Imus' drinking buddy in the governor's mansion.

16 posted on 05/23/2006 10:04:09 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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One thing you can be sure of about those "tax cuts" is that they will reach in the other pocket and take the money right back. Bluntly stated, it is a fraud.


17 posted on 05/23/2006 10:08:09 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: LdSentinal

Kinky is a lot more conservative than most people realize. He has a good campaign strategy.

He's appealing to young adults and college students who think he's a liberal, which he clearly is not if you look at his stance on immigration, death penalty, prayer in school, and energy. The stupid college students think he's a hippie who's obviously a liberal and are throwing their support behind him without knowing better.

I really wish there were more options. I'm just not a fan of Rick Perry. When he talks, it really appears as if there are people behind him pulling the strings.


18 posted on 05/23/2006 10:08:12 AM PDT by returnofthemack
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To: RichardW

You must be drinking Kool Aid!!! Kinky is a great and funny entertainer, but he is no Governor. Sorry to disappoint you, but the Pubbies are taking the whole state!!! And....things do not look good for a Democrat sweep across the USA. Taking the NOLA election into account and looking at this Texas poll, it is clear the Democrat Party is going nowhere. The majority of the American people feel the Democrats will not protect them or America. The Republicans are so scewed up, my grandson could beat them, but a good portion of Americans voters view the current Democrat party as traitors and being guilty of treason!!! And....so it is!!! End of Story!!!


19 posted on 05/23/2006 10:11:27 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: RichardW
One thing you can be sure of about those "tax cuts" is that they will reach in the other pocket and take the money right back. Bluntly stated, it is a fraud.

Only if you sit on your ass and let your school board increase the tax rates.

If you do that, it's YOUR fault that the taxes go back up.

20 posted on 05/23/2006 10:17:56 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur

And that is totally useless with property tax cap. Just window dressing nothing more.


21 posted on 05/23/2006 10:22:52 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: sinkspur

It is the appraisal board taking the money more then anyone elae.


22 posted on 05/23/2006 10:23:50 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: RichardW
I know a number of people who are otherwise conservative believe it is high time for a change.

Long overdue!


23 posted on 05/23/2006 10:27:51 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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GO KINKY!


24 posted on 05/23/2006 10:28:41 AM PDT by no dems (I guess I'm a "Johnny one-note" type voter, but I'll keep singing out against abortion.)
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To: Hydroshock
It is the appraisal board taking the money more then anyone elae.

You decide: Would you rather the value of your home go up, or go down?

25 posted on 05/23/2006 10:30:24 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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The appraisall board has very little to determin the price I can sell my house for. The market does that. They just determin my taxes.


26 posted on 05/23/2006 10:31:43 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: sinkspur

Besides a much better fairer paln would be to do property evaluations like CA does. The taxable evaluation you pay is the price you purchased it for. It stays like that until you sell. That way you know what you are being charged.


27 posted on 05/23/2006 10:35:10 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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The appraisall board has very little to determin the price I can sell my house for. The market does that. They just determin my taxes.

Do you know how the appraisal district's appraisals work?

They use the sale of the last three like properties in your neighborhood. IOW, they use market prices to determine what the value of your home is.

The local taxing entities (county, school district, etc.) determine the taxes based on the value submitted by the appraisal district.

28 posted on 05/23/2006 10:35:43 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: RichardW
I'd love to vote for someone other than Perry, but I think the others are as bad or worse. I am seriously considering not voting in the governor race.

Yes, property taxes are out of control, but come on, California has a 1% higher statewide sales tax, 7.25% base, nearly a 10% income tax and you don't have to be making that much to be in that top bracket, and even with Prop 13 limiting run away appraisals, (an appraisal cap less than 10% would be nice in Texas) the property tax rate is 1%. Finally, car titling, other use fees, and licensing requirements complete the picture, California IMO has a bleaker tax picture than Texas.

Full disclosure, with the higher appraisal, and if all the taxing entities in El Paso County keep the same tax rates, which counts as a tax increase I will pay about 2.5% of my houses value in taxes for 2006.

My main heartburn with the new tax structure is my belief that in five years all the school district will be back up to $1.50 per 100, I mean here in El Paso the school districts have go to and gotten bonds approved by the voters for maintenance, WTF if yo can't work routine maintenance into your annual budget SOMETHING is wrong and that is my concern.
The expanded business law is troublesome in that nearly every business will pass the increases on by raising prices, but I think, if there is going to be a tax law it should be an all or none affair. Everybody pays, or no one pays, but 1 in 8 or 1 in 9 having the tax apply, while the other business take a pass doesn't seem right. I like the no one pays idea, but rather than doing away with it, they really expanded it. Just like a bunch of politicians.
29 posted on 05/23/2006 10:35:49 AM PDT by thinkthenpost (I am the King of the run-on sentence.)
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To: Hydroshock
The taxable evaluation you pay is the price you purchased it for. It stays like that until you sell. That way you know what you are being charged.

That works for California because California also has a state income tax. Texas doesn't.

Maybe you would prefer that Texas have a personal income tax. Most Texans don't.

30 posted on 05/23/2006 10:37:22 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur

See post 27. Everyone I have talked to about thsi taxing plan like it.


31 posted on 05/23/2006 10:37:59 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: RichardW

Apparently you don't get around much.


32 posted on 05/23/2006 10:39:04 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: sinkspur

That is the way they should work, but often don't. In 2004 the Ft. Bend Country appraisal board circulated a memo stating that referred to the taxing entities as there primary concerns. And called for the max effort to keep taxes up. That is one of the main reasons I like the California plan. There is no need for an appraisal board, you just have a clerk record the price.


33 posted on 05/23/2006 10:40:54 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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Everyone I have talked to about thsi taxing plan like it.

Would they also like a 10% state personal income tax, as California has, as well?

34 posted on 05/23/2006 10:41:18 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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Maybe we can try cutting spending instead of a bunch of new taxes. That seems to me what a conservative would do.


35 posted on 05/23/2006 10:42:08 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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Maybe we can try cutting spending instead of a bunch of new taxes.

Send your recommendations to the governor.

He and the legislature cut nearly two billion out of the budget two years ago, including some CHPS funding that included therapy for handicapped kids.

What else would you like to cut?

36 posted on 05/23/2006 10:44:20 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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"The incompetence of Texas state government is second only to Louisiana's"

Uh, no. I can list about 20 or more states that would take that title before Texas.


37 posted on 05/23/2006 10:45:13 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: sinkspur

I have sent it to the governnor along with a letter asking not to be bother with any requests for support in the coming election. As things stand I will not vote for anyone for Governor. We have an 8 billion+ surplus that should be used along with cuts. Starting with cuts in school administrations.


38 posted on 05/23/2006 10:51:34 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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We have an 8 billion+ surplus that should be used along with cuts. Starting with cuts in school administrations.

Cuts in school administration should be directed to your local school board. Perry has no influence over budget considerations in your school district.

Texas doesn't always have a surplus of 8 billion, which is why the Texas Supreme Court would never accept a variable source like the surplus or the lottery as a permanent solution to school funding.

39 posted on 05/23/2006 10:57:26 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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Mandate the 65% solution to fund schools. That dictates that 65% of all money spent in education be spent in the classroom. And then details what is meant by classroom. Example the football staduim is not a classroom.


40 posted on 05/23/2006 10:59:10 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: sinkspur

I would love to see a run off between Perry and Kinky. Perry would win but damn it would be an entertaining election.


41 posted on 05/23/2006 11:00:55 AM PDT by cpdiii (Socialism is popular with the ruling class. It gives legitimacy to tyranny and despotism.)
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Texas doesn't have run-offs. The guy with the highest number of votes wins.

I'm not entertained by Kinky. I think he's intentionally making fools of Texas voters as a way to raise his profile for future books and public speaking gigs.

42 posted on 05/23/2006 11:03:14 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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My neighbors are from California

If they prefer the "California" way, perhaps they should be shipped back.

43 posted on 05/23/2006 11:11:39 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Hydroshock; sinkspur

sinkspur, you are wasting your time in this discussion. You did notice this:

Hydroshock
Since May 18, 2006

didn't you?

I'm guessing one of the McClellan boys.


44 posted on 05/23/2006 11:14:58 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: LdSentinal

If I lived there, I would vote for Kinky.


45 posted on 05/23/2006 11:16:54 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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I'm guessing one of the McClellan boys.

I didn't look at the sign-up date.

Texans are not fooled. They know this school funding resolution, which has evaded Texas legislatures for over a decade, is a big deal. They're also aware of tort reform, and Republicans know all about the six additional seats the GOP picked up through redistricting and Perry's efforts to force the Democrats into three special sessions.

This won't even be a race anymore by August.

46 posted on 05/23/2006 11:21:05 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: Hydroshock
We have an 8 billion+ surplus that should be used along with cuts.

This is my thinking too. Huge surplus and they're raising taxes. That's rat behavior, no other way to slice it.

47 posted on 05/23/2006 11:27:56 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Omnibus Gloria Fugit)
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Keep in mind that Perry up until the early 90's was a democrat. I wish we had a conservative to vote for.


48 posted on 05/23/2006 11:38:09 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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"What else would you like to cut?"

Lets start with any state or federal benefit for any illegal alien.
Then cut the staff of the Highway department by about 50%
Mostly the huge throngs of useless engineers that do NO engineering work, and draw salaries in the range of 100,000
per year. Then start looking at the overlapping levels of bureaucracy in all the agencys. Most have commissioners, bureau chiefs, asst bureau chiefs, executive officers, assistant executive officers etc. that are all appointed by the administration as political payoff. Most have little or no knowledge of the function of the agencys they "work" for.
All have salaries in the 100k range.
As a former state employee, I have a good understanding of how most state agencys are structured.


49 posted on 05/23/2006 11:46:50 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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I agree with you.

I've never been a Perry fan, but the redistricting plus his willingness to to at least pander to the social conservatives means my vote is locked for him this time.

Kinky's probably close to his peak numbers. Bell's going to get enough votes from the Democrat core in Dallas, Houston and the Valley to keep Strayhorn from being a threat.


50 posted on 05/23/2006 12:06:15 PM PDT by PAR35
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