Posted on 05/20/2006 9:56:48 PM PDT by Sunsong
The hydrogen economy is closer than we think. At least, that's the image portrayed by this TV news report from FOX 26 (as far as I can tell, the report aired last year, and I'm not sure which city this FOX 26 is in. For our purposes, these details don't really matter).
The report focuses on Denny Klein, president of Hydrogen Technology Applications, and his water-powered car. There is some impressive imagery at work in the piece. Seeing someone pour water into an engine and getting energy out of it is pretty amazing. And slicing through metal with a water-based flame? Cool. The actual technology is not as new or revolutionary as the reporter or the anchors make it out to be, but it is interesting to see how this technology – The Auto Channel says it's essentially Brown's Gas – is explained to the TV viewer. Wikipedia says, and I agree, to treat claims of running a car on this electrolyzed water with skepticism. Cool video, though. Very cool.
by this TV news report
And click on that link
My spider-sense is tingling.
Aquygen™ Gas is capable of storing tremendous amounts of energy that can be released under certain specific conditions. Under these conditions, Aquygen™ Gas will release an estimated 3.1 times the energy levels released by pure Hydrogen or traditional Hydrogen & Oxygen mixtures. •
The Hybrid Hydrogen Oxygen System ("HHOS") can generate sufficient Aquygen™ Gas to enrich a vehicle's traditional fuel supply (gasoline or diesel) so that a net power increase in engine horsepower ("HP") occurs. In the prototype vehicle, it has been estimated that the heavy-duty alternator requires approximately 4 HP of the stock engine's base power load. It has been estimated that the increased energy release of the combustion process utilizing the Aquygen™ Gas enrichment resulted in a net 17 HP gain. •
The HHOS can be installed with very little modification to a standard piston engine. Water and oil operating temperatures are not affected by the HHOS. •
The HHOS has been tested in two different vehicles (the current prototype, which is a 1994 Ford Escort Wagon, and a 1998 Ford Ranger pickup) and fuel economy increases have ranged from 22.9% to 100% depending upon the amount of electrical energy (amps & volts) that are available for the production of Aquygen™ Gas. •
The HHOS is in patent pending stage with 39 claims pending. •
The HHOS can be sized (i.e., the level of Aquygen™ Gas output required) for smaller or larger engines depending on the horsepower and/or electrical (KW hour) deviations per volume of fuel (gas or diesel) consumed. •
The HHOS enhances proven technology, i.e, the internal combustion engine, which has been proven reliable over trillions of miles for more than 100 years. •
The HHOS can be retrofitted on millions of existing gas and diesel fueled vehicles. Fleet vehicles are being specifically targeted now. •
The HHOS is evolutionary, not revolutionary, as it utilizes the existing refueling infrastructure (gas and diesel stations) and can be the transitional between fossil fueled vehicles of today and the fuel cell vehicles of the future. •
The HHOS would save the automobile industry billions of dollars in retooling costs as compared to fuel cell vehicles. •
The HHOS would create more jobs now; there's a huge retrofit market to tap. •
The HHOS is cost efficient. The economic payback on fleet vehicles could be less than six months!
It's very fancy water injection. Most likely injecting an equal amount of pure water would cause an even greater gain as the water converts to steam during the combustion stroke.
There is someone out there working on a six-cycle engine that injects water during an extra rotation of the engine instead of circulating coolant through the radiator.
All kinds of cool technology, but at the heart it's just using the expansion of water from liquid phase to vapor phase. Water injection was first used successfully in WWII piston aircraft engines.
No, it's a con-man's game using a product called "Brown's Gas"..
This goes nowhere.. It's basically hydrogen gas and oxygen , often H2O2, kept in a gas state..
It is highly explosive when stored under pressure, which means it's dangerous..
We were thinking of developing a petal type of car like Fred and Barnie drive. /sarc
Or become Amish and get a horse and buggy.
Aquygen™ sounds much more impressive.
Think we'll be allowed to set up offshore drilling rigs for this HHO stuff?
IF any such technology existed it would be mothballed by the government and never released, PERIOD.
Then talked about on Coast-to-Coast.
"IF any such technology existed it would be mothballed by the government and never released, PERIOD."
Yeah, Big Oil, Big Auto, Big Business, Big Water, Bush and Halliburton would squash this pretty fast. /sar
Actually it may not be a bad idea. Using the gas engine's generator to electrolyze water into Hydrogen and Oxygen and inject both into the air/fuel mixture to enrich the stuff and thereby getting more mpg. Also there wouldn't be any dangerous storage of Hydrogen as it is created just as it is injected. Pretty smart, actually.
My IPO BS Meter's needle wrapped itself around the pin last week when this came up in another series of posts.
These stories always show up when energy costs rise, like mosquitoes afer a rainstorm.
The only difference is that mosquitoes are real.
I recall seeing a similar technology in a Popular Mechanics isssue in the mid-70's.
Wonder what ever happened?
Giving this more thought, I suppose one would have to realize that the laws of Thermodynamics haven't been repealed. The energy it would take to hydroyze the water would put extra strain on the engine requiring more gas use which would offset the gain from getting energy from Hydrogen in the cylinders. What with friction loss the engine would actually get less MPG than otherwise. Sort of like a Nigerian scam e-mail.
Thanks for your interesting posts on this! If this doesn't work I hope that someone else will create one that will!
I'm normally an uber-skeptic, but something looks promising here. The military is contracting a hummer that runs on either gas or water? Hmmm...
No, the reporter said, that Pete Domenici, ( the partner ) said, that they were "in negotiation" with the military to develop a hummer that ran on the fuel..
Whole different thing..
It's sorta like that Patent Pending bit...
Patent Pending means nothing.. absolutely nothing.. Zip.. Nada...
Show me a Patent # that I can look up at the Patent Office..
Either an original patent, or a design patent, I don't care which..
Until there's a registered patent It's just talk..
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