Posted on 05/16/2006 10:21:38 PM PDT by RWR8189
Americans love to poll, test and otherwise assess themselves.
A news item barely hits the wires before a poll follows indicating Americans' reaction. Applying for a new job? Just fill out this short questionnaire to determine whether you're racist, sexist, homophobic, heterophobic, ageist, height-ist, or a fat-o-phobe.
In that spirit of sensitivity, I submit the following pop quiz to gauge your bias as a news consumer. After reading the following characteristics, please select the college group that most likely fits the description:
The group has a 100 percent college graduation rate. Sixty percent have a 3.0 grade point average or above. During the past four years, 80 percent have made a national honor roll. Members regularly volunteer at more than a dozen community agencies, building houses for the homeless and serving in soup kitchens, while raising more money than any other group for the Katrina Relief Fund.
Answer: (a) Tri-Delta sorority at the University of North Carolina; (b) women's rowing team at Clemson University; (c) synchronized swim team at Harvard University; (d) men's lacrosse team at Duke University.
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Outstanding article.
A given from Kathleen Parker.
Whatever.
I still say that it was a STUPID and juvenile action to hire a stripper and then act like drunken jackasses..I understand the rush to judgement on the rape charges was very premature but come on,people,how can conservatives defend those type of ignorant hijinks?.I thought having some sense of decency and morality was part of the conservative ethic.At least thats how I was raised.
I always thought it was the liberals who excused immorality and debauchery.Guess I made a mistake.
Carefull! I got called a very bad name on this forum for trying to make this point more gently.
I think the adage is: lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
What they did might have been immoral and debaucherous, but if it wasn't illegal, then the government and the media have no right in dragging their names through the mud.
I don't think anyone is defending their behavior, all we can do is condemn such actions in our own families, and choose to associate ourselves with like-minded people.
Are you referring to the accused or the whole team?
Remember, 2 of the indicted, are claiming they left at around the time the stripper got there, they have ATM recipts to prove it, and to top it off, they have a cab driver who remembers them from that night.
That said, stupid isn't always illegal, morals and values are important, but first and foremost, when right is right, we can't always pick the people we like to defend (or even in some cases attack).
I'm still going to wait till all the evidence is in before I actually come up with a solid opinion.
Sidenote: In college, I was at a frat parties where strippers came, I always left, and returned later on after the strippers were gone (or went somewhere else, or went home). I stated my objections, and always left.
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Skip the trial, strippers with long records never lie.....
I agree. Inviting a stripper to one's home is risky; going to a houseful of drunk men to strip is risky. This sort of thing used to bounce people right out of college, never mind a sports team.
Skip the trial, "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply.
Sour grapes because the vice angle is getting such little traction on this forum?
During a slow year in the oil patch I put food on the table by dealing blackjack at a titty bar.
I'm a pretty big guy, and I got to know some of the 'dancers' there, and more than once was the 'boyfriend' for the evening they could point to to scare off some flake.
The dancers there would not do private parties without some guy(s) along for security.
I was asked more than once if I wanted to make $50 to $100 bucks (real good money then) to keep the crowd in line for an hour or so, and if the party was going to be large, there would be more than one of us (and usually more than one dancer). It paid better than the money I made dealing cards on a $2 limit table.
That the individual involved did not have any security present is suspect in itself to me.
Sounds like you didn't do well from a peer review standpont. Or maybe that should be FReer review!
And one of the reasons you don't have security is because you are a complete amateur and also a very good possibility that there is some sex going on as well which would be negotiated after some actual dancing. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. And these charges are seriously, seriously questionable. I would not have been bringing this casae as a DA even if I thought it was true since there was going to be virtually no chance of success with virtually no chance of avoiding completely decimation of the accusers life as well as potential perjury charges.
I am a Tri Delt and more than 60 percent of my chapter had a 3.0 grade point average or above during the 4 years I was in college, and members regularly volunteered at more than a dozen community agencies, building houses for the homeless and serving in soup kitchens AND cancer charities and benefits as well as many others. Many were on the honor roll, but I don't know the percentage.
That thought had crossed my mind as well. The girls who wanted security did not "date" as the euphamism went.
The ones who "dated" did not generally look for a guy to watch their back.
(Even in the most discerning establishments there are those who will do more than 'dance', although the management in our small town's club did not ask them back again for fear of getting a reputation for pimping--which would have been the end of the place.)
when one engages in risky behavior, and the unfortunate happens, my reaction is the same as if the pitcher sent a slow pitch that was knocked out of the park.
both sides engaged in risky behavior. when someone bungee jumps and forgot to tie the cord, who's fault is it?
if anyone is at fault, it is those who showed the bad judgement to engage in this risky behavior in the first place.
does that justify false accusations? no, neither does it justify rape, but at least one of those did occur.
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